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| kbp | Dec 3 2014, 07:43 PM Post #1366 |
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I have no idea HOW they can get the Gruber data in if it had not been a part of the King case that is under appeal. |
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| kbp | Dec 3 2014, 11:42 PM Post #1367 |
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What two committees wrote bills never passed that Obamacare borrowed the text from? I'll give you a couple hints:
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| Baldo | Dec 4 2014, 12:02 AM Post #1368 |
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Sen. Chuck Schumer & Sen. Tom Harkin Two of the most powerful Democratic Senators who helped pass Obama-care are now having second thoughts. Weasels! They see the political disaster it is and they are jumping ship like two rats. They and their cohorts never let the republicans see the bill until it was time to pass it. Treachery & Deceit. That was their Modus operandi They did not have a mandate for a single payer system. What Obama ran on was if you like your plan you can keep your plan, if you like your Doctor you can keep your Doctor. It was going to cover many millions of uninsured citizens. Finally it was going to save the average family $2500/year. Big BSers to get elected. Liars! |
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| kbp | Dec 4 2014, 07:46 AM Post #1369 |
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...“We had the votes in ’09″ for a law included single-payer or a public option, Harkin said. “We had a huge majority in the House, we had 60 votes in the Senate.” He NEVER had the votes for that. The ironic thing is Harkin was a full-time whiner about getting mo' money to pay for the VA, especially in his state. He knew the single-payer or a public option modeled on the VA was a sinkhole for funding long before Obamacare passed. |
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| LTC8K6 | Dec 4 2014, 03:12 PM Post #1370 |
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Assistant to The Devil Himself
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Latest Gruber Video Ruins Administration's Supreme Court Argument To Save Obamacare Gruber explains that if your state doesn't set up an exchange its residents aren't eligible for tax credits, which is precisely the opposite of what the Administration is arguing before the Supreme Court. http://www.truthrevolt.org/news/latest-gruber-video-ruins-administrations-supreme-court-argument-save-obamacare#.VICwyeOkWn4.twitter If you’re a state and you don’t accept an exchange, that means your citizens don’t get their tax credits. But your citizens still pay the taxes to support this bill. So you’re essentially saying to your citizens, you’re going to pay all the taxes to support all the states in this country. Edited by LTC8K6, Dec 4 2014, 03:13 PM.
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| Baldo | Dec 7 2014, 11:32 PM Post #1371 |
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AP: Health law impacts primary care doc shortage MIAMI (AP) — When Olivia Papa signed up for a new health plan last year, her insurance company assigned her to a primary care doctor. The relatively healthy 61-year-old didn't try to see the doctor until last month, when she and her husband both needed authorization to see separate specialists. She called the doctor's office several times without luck. "They told me that they were not on the plan, they were never on the plan and they'd been trying to get their name off the plan all year," said Papa, who recently bought a plan from a different insurance company. It was no better with the next doctor she was assigned. The Naples, Florida, resident said she left a message to make an appointment, "and they never called back." The Papas were among the 6.7 million people who gained insurance through the Affordable Care Act last year, flooding a primary care system that is struggling to keep up with demand. A survey this year by The Physicians Foundation found that 81 percent of doctors describe themselves as either over-extended or at full capacity, and 44 percent said they planned to cut back on the number of patients they see, retire, work part-time or close their practice to new patients. At the same time, insurance companies have routinely limited the number of doctors and providers on their plans as a way to cut costs. The result has further restricted some patients' ability to get appointments quickly. One purpose of the new health law was connecting patients, many of whom never had insurance before, with primary care doctors to prevent them from landing in the emergency room when they are sicker and their care is more expensive. Yet nearly 1 in 5 Americans lives in a region designated as having a shortage of primary care physicians, and the number of doctors entering the field isn't expected to keep pace with demand. The Association of American Medical Colleges projects the shortage will grow to about 66,000 in little more than a decade as fewer residency slots are available and as more medical students choose higher-paying specialty areas. For now, experts say most patients are receiving the care they need, even if they have to drive farther, wait longer or see a nurse practitioner or physician assistant rather than a doctor. More importantly, many are getting care for the first time. The surge also has forced many doctors to streamline their practice and rely more on mid-tier professionals instead of seeing every patient themselves. "Family doctors are seeing a pretty significant increase in requests for appointments from new patients," said Dr. Wanda Filer, a primary care doctor in York, Pennsylvania, and president of the American Academy of Family Physicians...snipped http://news.yahoo.com/newly-insured-struggle-primary-physicians-155516875.html;_ylt=AwrBEiHu_4RUDRoAJR7QtDMD |
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| kbp | Dec 8 2014, 10:00 AM Post #1372 |
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The copy/paste networks create excusable errors by insurance companies. |
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| kbp | Dec 8 2014, 10:14 AM Post #1373 |
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Timothy Jost, a Washington and Lee University law professor with whom Adler and Cannon have jousted for years, says the challenge lacks merit. "If the court approaches the statute as they normally interpret statutes, they should consider the text of the entire statute rather than focusing on a single phrase," he wrote in Health Affairs. "If the court regards the statute as ambiguous, they should defer to the agency charged by Congress with interpreting the statute, the IRS." IOW... UNread the plain text, ignore the UNabsurd explanations for any parts of the law they wish to find ambiguity in, and then ignore the absence of plain text granting authority for tax credits in federal exchanges. . |
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| kbp | Dec 8 2014, 10:38 AM Post #1374 |
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http://online.wsj.com/article/AP48355eb933634a9dbc7198ece5c90c53.html Hearing scheduled on NY Health single-payer health coverage ROCHESTER, N.Y. — The state Assembly is holding the second of six statewide public hearings on legislation to establish New York Health, a universal single-payer health coverage plan to replace insurance company coverage. Assembly Health Committee Chair Richard Gottfried will take testimony on the bill which would provide comprehensive, universal health coverage for every New Yorker. The Monday morning hearing in Rochester will focus on the effects and costs of the current health coverage system on patients, health care providers, employers, labor and taxpayers, as well as how the single-payer system would work. The committee also will review a proposal to fund New York Health through broad-based taxes and the elimination of the local share of Medicaid, which would become New York Health. Other hearings are scheduled in Buffalo, Manhattan, Mineola, and Albany. |
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| Mason | Dec 8 2014, 06:08 PM Post #1375 |
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Parts unknown
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. O-Administration playing games hiding information from Congress and the American people. They sent some of the requested data in Spreadsheets. Spreadsheets that been encrypted and they did not provide the passwords. More games. Hard to believe anything out of this Administration. http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2014/12/08/house-oversight-gruber-tavenner-hearing/20091465/ . |
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| kbp | Dec 9 2014, 09:44 AM Post #1376 |
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They had more data (policy costs) than I gave them credit for, though they evidently were too ignorant to read it or outright liars. It appears they're claiming to be ignorant. ADD: I wonder if the reason it was 289 spreadsheets is because that was data provided from insurance companies and HHS was just too lazy to read it. Sounds more like gubermint employee's working without a backend program that does the work for them! Edited by kbp, Dec 9 2014, 09:46 AM.
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| Joan Foster | Dec 9 2014, 05:01 PM Post #1377 |
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PLEASE pass this video along. This is what this Obama are has done to real people. https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=10153066471085579 |
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| wingedwheel | Dec 9 2014, 05:17 PM Post #1378 |
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That even shut up Elijah Cummings. Well at least for a while... |
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| Joan Foster | Dec 9 2014, 05:20 PM Post #1379 |
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God, they are smug. But this woman doesn't fall under their selective empathy category. |
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| kbp | Dec 9 2014, 05:32 PM Post #1380 |
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Tavenner wanted to pass along her sympathy. |
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