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Nov 11 2014, 11:06 PM

Krauthammer: ObamaCare Architect Remarks 'True Voice of Liberal Arrogance'

On Tuesday’s broadcast of Fox News Channel’s “The O’Reilly Factor,” Washington Post columnist Charles Krauthammer reacted to ObamaCare architect Jonathan Gruber’s ill-advised remarks in which he declared voters too disengaged with the crafting and ultimate passage of ObamaCare – something he described as a political advantage.

Krauthammer described it as “liberal arrogance.”

"This is exactly what conservatives have been saying for four years, what we're hearing now is the true voice of liberal arrogance," he said. "They believe this. They believe that the voters are stupid, as he said. And they believe that they know the right way, they have to lead the masses to the promise land and they can only do it by deception."

“And that's what he said openly,” he continued. “We wanted to get the bill. We didn't care about how we did it so we lied about everything. We lied about if you can keep the plan knowing that you can't keep your plan. We lied about the fact that this would be a transfer of wealth, a massive transfer of wealth because, as Gruber said, had they known that, it would never have passed. They lied about every aspect of this.

Krauthammer also took aim at the media for not being more active in showing the deception involved in the passage of legislation.

"I think that is what has been charged all along and it is a scandal of the media that this has to be discovered in the sixth year of the presidency rather than talked about at the time when it was obvious they were lying about all this,” he added. “The idea of it being a transfer of wealth was known from the beginning, but they got away with it."

Video at site

http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-TV/2014/11/11/Krauthammer-ObamaCare-Architect-Remarks-True-Voice-of-Liberal-Arrogance

Mason

Nov 11 2014, 11:47 PM

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No one is mentioning the lower payments to Doctors, which is going to make a certain percentage work strictly off of Cash and serve the wealthy.

No one is mentioning the quality of the care - and the people that don't see Doctors when the wait times and drive times rise as these Docs are removed from serving their former patients.

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Mason

Nov 12 2014, 02:30 AM

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The media hasn't made the connection between Gruber's comments and the other statements made by Obama and his team.

Another Obamacare architect said there is no reason to live past 75.

Obama himself said that Obamacare is designed to help many of the people opposing it, but they don't understand that.

And why are State Exchanges the only place to get subsidies (per the law):

http://youtu.be/34rttqLh12U


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LTC8K6

Nov 12 2014, 07:53 AM

http://dailycaller.com/2014/11/11/yet-another-video-emerges-of-obamacare-architect-calling-americans-stupid-video/

Yet Another Video Emerges Of Obamacare Architect Calling Americans ‘Stupid’

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...a short 5-second clip of Gruber, saying the following, that a part of the Obamacare passed because “the American people are too stupid to understand the difference.” ...from a lecture Gruber gave...in October of last year"

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When thinking this through, I start with the fact we have a shortage of Doctors, especially GP's that see you first. The structure of policies nowadays often have networks. Where the shortage hits the hardest is in those that serve Medicare/Medicaid.

With there being such a large percentage of private coverage, most through employers sponsored plans, the professionals will stay focused on serving that group. The shift to having more on Medicaid and exchange plans, along with the growth in those old enough to use Medicare, overloads the limited number of doctors that will serve them. The biggest factor in "quality of care" will probably just be getting any care outside the ER. Maybe the hospitals need a second ER for the not so major of an illness or injury patients, sort of like the walk-in systems.

Concerned

Nov 12 2014, 11:37 AM

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When thinking this through, I start with the fact we have a shortage of Doctors, especially GP's that see you first. The structure of policies nowadays often have networks. Where the shortage hits the hardest is in those that serve Medicare/Medicaid.

With there being such a large percentage of private coverage, most through employers sponsored plans, the professionals will stay focused on serving that group. The shift to having more on Medicaid and exchange plans, along with the growth in those old enough to use Medicare, overloads the limited number of doctors that will serve them. The biggest factor in "quality of care" will probably just be getting any care outside the ER. Maybe the hospitals need a second ER for the not so major of an illness or injury patients, sort of like the walk-in systems.

My GP just dropped all insurance except Medicare. She said an average doctor has 2500 patients and the government wanted them to increase it to 5000, so she now cut her practice to 800 patients offering a concierge-type service where you have no wait time, get right in to see the doctor, text and email access, 3 hour yearly checkups. $900 a year. Her husband is a doctor and did the same thing.

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http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/nov/10/obamacare-health-exchange-enrollees-to-fall-well-s/print/

Obamacare may not have enough enrollees to stay solvent

The administration on Monday said fewer than 10 million Americans will enroll in Obamacare's health exchanges this go-around, well short of the 13 million target congressional scorekeepers deemed critical to its economics, suggesting another rocky rollout in the law's second year of full operation.

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The number of enrollees is key, because if too few take part in the exchanges, the pool of customers is too small, and it could skew the economics of Obamacare, forcing insurers to raise premiums and pushing even more people to forgo coverage, choosing to pay the tax penalty instead.

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http://dailycaller.com/2014/11/11/gruber-now-accusing-gop-of-trying-to-confuse-people-about-obamacare/print/

Gruber Now Accusing GOP Of Trying To ‘Confuse People’ About Obamacare
Posted By Sarah Hurtubise

Jonathan Gruber, the Obamacare architect that admitted Obamacare only passed because politicians hid what was in it from the public, is now accusing the GOP of trying to “confuse people” about the law.

Gruber told Boston-area public broadcaster WGBH late Tuesday that the upcoming Supreme Court case which challenges whether Obamacare allows subsidies in federally-run exchanges is, in fact, a Republican attempt to confuse the American people.

“I think this comes to the master strategy of the Republican Party, which is to confuse people enough about the law so that they don’t understand the subsidies they’re getting are because of the law,” Gruber said.

Gruber’s comments are especially ironic in the aftermath of a 2013 video, uncovered by regular citizen Rich Weinstein, in which Gruber explains to a University of Pennsylvania audience that Democrats had to hide the actual cost of the health-care law from the public because of “the stupidity of the American voter.”

“Lack of transparency is a huge political advantage,” Gruber had said.

Gruber now opposes the challenges to the Obama administration’s rule on Obamacare subsidies, but he first attracted attention over the summer when Weinstein and bloggers John Sexton and Morgan Richmond discovered several tapes of Gruber explaining that Obamacare does actually restrict subsidies to state-run exchanges.

Gruber tried to brush aside his subsidy comments as a “speak-o.” He also told MSNBC’s Ronan Farrow earlier on Tuesday that he was speaking “off the cuff” in the latest video and regrets calling the American voters stupid.

“I apologize for the terms I used, I expressed myself very poorly,” Gruber said when asked about his comments, but stood by his point that Obamacare would not have passed had the public known that it would effectively redistribute money. The host, Emily Rooney, later joked about the revelations briefly before ending the segment and advised him not to tweet.

“I have certainly learned my lesson,” Gruber laughed.”Now I know I can not only not tweet, I can’t speak,” he lamented.