| Healthcare Bill Part III; Obamacare | |
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| kbp | Sep 8 2014, 07:33 AM Post #946 |
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drip... drip... drip... the funds leaking out of your pocket to cover premiums, out-of-pocket, taxes... have grown in to quite a problem. I love how the left tries to blame it on conditions in place before Obamacare. Evidently they forgot the savings this entitlement program was supposed to provide them. The cure turned into a cause. http://www.washingtonpost.com/business/economy/companies-race-to-adjust-health-care-benefits-as-affordable-care-act-takes-hold/2014/09/05/91e60cc2-33db-11e4-8f02-03c644b2d7d0_story.html Companies race to adjust health-care benefits as Affordable Care Act takes hold Large businesses expect to pay between 4 and 5 percent more for health-care benefits for their employees in 2015 after making adjustments to their plans, according to employer surveys conducted this summer. Few employers plan to stop providing benefits with the advent of federal health insurance mandates, as some once feared, but a third say they are considering cutting or reducing subsidies for employee family members, and the data suggest that employees are paying more each year in out-of-pocket health care expenses. The figures come from separate electronic surveys given to thousands of mid- to large-size firms across the country by Towers Watson, the National Business Group on Health and PriceWaterhouseCoopers, consulting groups that engage with businesses on health insurance issues. Bracing themselves for an excise tax on high-cost plans coming in 2018 under the Affordable Care Act, 81 percent of employers surveyed by Towers Watson said they plan to moderately or significantly alter health-care benefits to reduce their costs. The excise tax will be levied on companies offering annual benefits that exceed $10,200 for individuals or $27,500 for families. For any costs above those amounts, businesses would be taxed 40 percent on the difference. Nearly three quarters of the businesses interviewed by Towers Watson said they are concerned they will be subject to the excise tax. To lower their tax bill, many companies are looking to cut their premiums by raising deductibles. Many also are making greater use of health-care savings accounts. “My takeaway from the employer surveys is that this trend is accelerating,” said Paul Fronstin of the nonprofit Employee Benefits Research Institute. The National Business Group on Health finds 81 percent of employers offering insurance plans that include higher deductibles and an annual health savings account. The savings account allows employees to deposit money tax-free, and employers often deposit a set amount of money into these accounts at the beginning of the year. “These plans have been around for more than a decade, but there is no doubt that the excise tax is out there, and employers want to do something now. Which is why we’re seeing greater interest in these types of plans,” Fronstin said. Others see these changes as less of a result of the Affordable Care Act and more a response to the steadily increasing costs of health care. The expected increase of 4 to 5 percent from 2014 to 2015 is no greater than in previous years, but the continued pressure on businesses has forced a wave of cost-sharing innovation, giving employees what the industry calls more “consumer-directed” choices to make between the quality of care and the cost. “I think this in many ways has very little to do with the Affordable Care Act,” said Gail Wilensky, a senior fellow at Project Hope, a health-care advocacy and services group. “It started 10 to 12 years ago, and is being used by employers to try to get their employees to react in what they see as a more responsible way.” Experts say there is no evidence that consumer-directed plans necessarily increase what employees pay out of pocket, emphasizing that such costs depend on a range of details specific to the insurance plan. “The question is whether it will get people to get better care, or whether they will put off care and end up having to get more expensive care,” Wilenski said. Surveys by Towers Watson and the National Business Group on Health suggest out-of-pocket costs paid by employees are increasing. According to their data, average annual out-of-pocket costs have jumped more than 40 percent just in the past three years, from $1,890 per employee in 2011 to $2,649 in 2014. Over the same period, employees’ share of total expenses, which includes both monthly premiums and out-of-pocket expenses, has increased from 34.3 percent to just over 37 percent. And experts point out that even costs absorbed by employers are felt by employees in other ways. “Even if the increase is only a few percentage points, the health-care costs are crowding out other portions of the pie. It puts a squeeze on pay increases, it puts a squeeze on retirement contributions,” said Steve Nyce, a researcher in charge of surveys at Towers Watson and the National Business Group on Health. “The challenge is not only premium increases, but also out-of-pocket expenses, where increasingly people have to pay more at the point of care.” Even those shying away from high-deductible plans are finding other ways to give employees incentive to purchase cheaper care. Almost three quarters of employers interviewed by Towers Watson said they are adding some form of consumer initiative, such as pricing transparency tools, second-opinion services or claims assistance programs. It also appears that employers are moving away from providing family coverage. A third of employers interviewed by Towers Watson have already cut subsidies for spouses, are planning to do so in 2015, or are considering such changes. Subsidy reductions are becoming even more common when spouses have insurance available through their own employer: 26 percent said they are considering surcharging or fully excluding spouses if coverage is available elsewhere, and another 37 percent already have this policy in place or plan to implement it in 2015. The survey by Towers Watson found that nearly one in four employers considers private exchanges to be a viable alternative for 2016. Private exchanges are online platforms, typically operated by brokers or insurers, that allow employees to shop for plans directly and customize more expensive add-ons, such as dental or hospitalization benefits, presumably giving the employee some control over the real cost of an insurance plan. (Towers Watson operates its own private exchange). By contrast, employers had very little confidence in public exchanges in their first year in operation; 77 percent said they are “not at all confident public exchanges will provide a viable alternative” for their employees. While it is clear that employers want to reduce or restructure benefits packages, most, 99.5 percent, said they have no plans to direct employees to public exchanges. Businesses are also planning a range of changes to the ways employees can access health care. One third of employers interviewed by Towers Watson plan to expand telemedicine provisions, in which patients conduct routine health check-ups over the phone. A quarter of employers consulted by NBGH currently include so-called “narrow networks,” in which employer insurance plans will only support treatment at facilities that have been determined “high-value” by independent monitors who have measured the cost of care against the quality provided. “This goes back to the idea of getting better value for the dollar spent,” said Randy Abbott, a senior consultant at Towers Watson. “At present, there is no correlation between cost and quality for doctors. The narrower networks are designed to evaluate providers based on quality of care and quality of outcomes, all compared to a competitive price.” The Towers Watson survey, which came out on Aug. 20, projects that costs will increase 4 percent in 2015, factoring in likely employer adjustments. Surveys conducted by the National Business Group on Health and PriceWaterhouseCoopers placed the number slightly higher, reporting 5 percent and 4.8 percent, respectively. |
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| kbp | Sep 8 2014, 07:53 AM Post #947 |
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http://online.wsj.com/articles/the-outlook-services-spending-report-gains-wider-attention-1410113378 The Outlook: Services Sector Gauge Finally Gets Its Due Commerce Department's QSS Roils Estimates for Economic Growth, Effect of Health Law You have to read this. They're explaining how a source for one-fifth of the estimate for growth reporting on GDP was the source that turned it upside down. They then try to explain why that could have happened. One thing that is not mentioned is how so many have seen FISCAL start date of their policy period moved to match the CALENDAR and when new laws & regulations take effect. I'm wondering how much weight they put on the fact that out-of-pocket expense hits the hardest in the 1st quarter, just after holiday spending from budgets that have less or simply do NOT have disposable income. |
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| kbp | Sep 8 2014, 08:43 AM Post #948 |
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From the article in the previous post: ![]() That should add to your confidence in the reports predicting our financial future... resulting from all the taxpayers dollars they spend putting the fuzzy numbers together! |
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| kbp | Sep 8 2014, 11:26 AM Post #949 |
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http://www.vox.com/2014/9/4/6104533/the-125-percent-solution-for-american-health-care The 125 percent solution for American health care The solution, brought to you by Barry's #1 butt kisser: Ezra Klein! I hate to give the idiot any added traffic on his venture into the private business world, but it is worth the read. He admits the goal of the Public Option plan was Single Payer! The real highlight of his proposed solution is federal price control on ALL health service. They can just limit the pricing to a maximum of 125% of the rate paid by Medicare. As he writes this brilliant solution to help promote his private business venture, he misses the point that such price control is based on service providers that accept Medicare patients who get a fatter check from either private customers, charities or some form of subsidies to keep the operations running above water. Reads to me like his solution has no alternative other than to eventually go with government owned single payer system that writes checks paying fees to government owned service provider systems ....sort of like how the VA pays itself to operate! Edited by kbp, Sep 8 2014, 11:27 AM.
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| kbp | Sep 9 2014, 09:04 AM Post #950 |
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http://www.nytimes.com/2014/09/09/us/politics/healthcaregov-upgrades-are-priority-for-new-health-and-human-services-chief.html Health Chief Seeks to Focus on Insurance Site Which still does not work properly WASHINGTON — Sylvia Mathews Burwell, the secretary of Health and Human Services, said Monday in her first major speech that she wanted to move beyond the politics of health care and work with members of both parties to improve the management and operation of HealthCare.gov, the website used by millions of people to sign up for insurance coverage. [The law has passed, the budget is set. What does she need "both parties" for? The elections? “What I’ve told my team is that we’re not here to fight last year’s battles,” she said. “We’re here to fight for affordability, access and quality.” With midterm elections two months away, Ms. Burwell said she wanted to shift the conversation to areas of potential agreement. Polls consistently show that the public remains more negative than positive on the Affordable Care Act, but that Americans want Congress to improve the law rather than to repeal it. “The American people are sending a very clear message that they want us to work together on health care,” Ms. Burwell said, in remarks at George Washington University. Ms. Burwell said that since she took office in June, she has heard the same message from many people: “Enough already with the back and forth on the Affordable Care Act. We just want to move forward.” The next open enrollment period begins Nov. 15 and runs through Feb. 15, half as long as the first sign-up period. [...] In her remarks, Ms. Burwell drew implicit contrasts with her predecessor, Kathleen Sebelius, who supervised the disastrous debut of the health care website last fall. Ms. Burwell repeatedly emphasized her management skills, honed as president of the Walmart Foundation and as director of the White House Office of Management and Budget under President Obama. Ms. Burwell promised a new era of transparency and candor, and said her goal was to answer letters from Congress within 30 days. But in response to questions, health officials said they were unable to update the enrollment figures issued on May 1, when they reported that eight million people had signed up for private insurance through the federal and state marketplaces. Within hours of Ms. Burwell’s speech, Republican leaders of the House Energy and Commerce Committee sent her a letter demanding detailed information on state-run exchanges that experienced severe problems. The lawmakers first requested the information in early June. Five of those states — Hawaii, Maryland, Massachusetts, Minnesota and Oregon — received a total of more than $1 billion in federal grants. Not revealing the numbers asked for is an admission that they are running a program they are not certain of how it is working, or they're liars withholding data... pick one. |
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| kbp | Sep 9 2014, 09:20 AM Post #951 |
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The Obamacare savings news just keeps getting... worse!
Your new charity is Uncle Sam, or is it Samantha now? Just pay your taxes and cooperate! "...if everybody's got coverage, then they're not going to the emergency room for treatment." Barry's promise - 2009 |
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| kbp | Sep 9 2014, 11:59 AM Post #952 |
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My thoughts on Halbig... The conclusion of those supporting the idea that federal exchanges may provide subsidies is that the law is ambiguous, so the agency (IRS) is free to interpret what the intent of Congress was. To start this process, they must go with the presumption that the section of the law requiring subsidies to be through an exchange established by a State does NOT reflect the intent of Congress ...though that is what the text says. Have I showed you clearly where I got lost?
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| kbp | Sep 9 2014, 03:44 PM Post #953 |
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...and we're seeing a majority that just want to rework it somehow, a multi-trillion dollar program that will not even provide that all the citizens are insured.
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| kbp | Sep 10 2014, 10:53 AM Post #954 |
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Still looks like an lection topic to me... http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2014/09/09/americans-still-not-sold-on-obamacare-wsjnbc-poll/ Americans Still Not Sold on Obamacare – WSJ/NBC Poll Voters who think the federal health law is a bad idea still significantly outnumber those who think it’s a good idea heading into November midterms, the new NBC News/Wall Street Journal poll shows. Among all registered voters captured in the September poll, 34% are in favor of the 2010 Affordable Care Act, and 48% are against it. Most respondents who have an opinion say they feel strongly about it, and there are also clear party divisions in position: 82% of Republicans feel the law is bad, and 63% of Democrats say it’s good. Independents are more divided, with 26% saying it’s good, 51% saying it’s bad, and the rest saying they don’t know. Most respondents say that what they’ve seen, read or heard over the last few weeks about the law has made no difference to their opinion of it. (There’s been mixed news over the past few weeks. The Department of Health and Human Services disclosed that a hacker had breached the HealthCare.gov site in July and uploaded malicious software, and has been chasing around 310,000 people to send in additional paperwork confirming they’re legally in the U.S. or see their coverage cut off Sept. 30. At the same time, Pennsylvania’s Republican governor made his state the 27th to expand Medicaid under the law, and fresh reports that premiums for 2015 have largely stayed in check has buoyed supporters.) Sentiment is about the same as it was among registered voters ahead of 2012 and 2010 elections. In 2012, 40% of registered voters in the NBC/Journal poll thought the law was a good idea and 44% thought it was bad. In 2010, 36% of registered voters thought it was good and 46% thought it was bad. For 2014, Latino voters are the only electoral group identified in the NBC/Journal poll where supporters of the law outnumber opponents. Among suburban women, voters over 65, undecided and independent voters and white women more dislike it than back it. The poll also shows the Democratic party maintaining an edge over Republicans in voters’ perceptions of who’s best at dealing with health care. Some 39% of voters think Democrats have an advantage, compared with 31% who favor the GOP. But Democrats’ 8-point lead is well below the big double-digit margins the party enjoyed in the years before the overhaul was debated and passed. A new monthly tracking poll also released Tuesday by the non-partisan Kaiser Family Foundation has almost identical findings. That survey shows a similar split in support for the law, with 47% of respondents saying they had an unfavorable view of the law and 35% saying they liked it. There were also similar divisions along party lines, though the poll found that health-care took a back seat to the economy in importance for voters of all stripes. The NBC/Journal poll was carried out Sept. 3 to 7 with 1,000 registered voters and has a margin of error of 3.1 percentage points. The Kaiser poll was conducted August 25 to Sept. 2 with a sample of 1,505 adults, giving the poll a margin of error of 3 percentage points. |
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| kbp | Sep 10 2014, 11:13 AM Post #955 |
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...the use of the $700-billion figure ....But under political pressure, the administration has also reversed some cuts that were to take place under the law. What a NON-brilliant attack on Fact Checking a GOP ad that counters a Dem candidate bragging about Obamacare! To start with this idiot cites the $700 billion in imaginary projected savings to be stolen from Medicare funding (the non-tax payroll tax!) to fund Obamacare and then points out to us (proudly to partially or technically prove a lie!) that Barry reversed this savings ....which means Barry will be gone as the American taxpayers are trying to pull the funding out of their azzez to replace this imaginary savings funding source Barry got rid of. IOW, his fact check is telling you that the taxes are going up, up, up... ...a FACT which the CBO has cited when they told us even they could not figure out where the cost to taxpayers is going with all of Barry's "pen & phone" legislation enacted in the bar at the 19th hole. |
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| kbp | Sep 11 2014, 08:48 AM Post #956 |
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While so many ignore the end of Barry's "pen & phone" legislation that extended the policies ONE YEAR, it's still a good excuse for the LEFT trying to avoid counting how many now or next year can't afford coverage and have less money to spend to help boost our economy. Edited by kbp, Sep 11 2014, 08:49 AM.
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| kbp | Sep 12 2014, 09:18 AM Post #957 |
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...year one of Obamacare How soon they forget... It has been more than one year of the Obamacare law! This BRETT NORMAN's math skills evidently leave him stuck on "one." Barry's "pen & phone" provided new legislation that delayed problems we'll see next year ...and the Obamacare exchanges have little to do with business coverage, other than the fact that the exchange features for small businesses were supposed to have INCREASED the number of employers providing coverage... OOPS! ...and the premiums had already gone up as a result of the Obamacare regulations ...more than "one year" ago ...AND they are trying to tweak the actual results to make the bad news look good Sorry BRETT NORMAN, the news is not so good ...but it could have been worse! |
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| kbp | Sep 12 2014, 09:28 AM Post #958 |
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Here's a little on how the "pen & phone" is just dandy, but legislation from the House is bad... So it is fine if Barry rewrites the law to avoid facing the circumstances it creates in an election year, but the House moving to do the exact same thing is classified to debilitate the law. "If you like your plan" ...it is debilitating the law to keep it! |
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| kbp | Sep 15 2014, 08:55 AM Post #959 |
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I read this blog occasionally, mainly if he's commenting on Obamacare. The guy is an Assistant Professor at some Texas law school, so he has some understanding of the legal issues and has pointed out a few things worthy of reading about on the Obamacare topic. Here he has a fair point to make in how NYT has gone about their job in the media of trying to persuade the public opinion, but he sure steps on the common folks in his effort to get that message across! No matter what the topic is, not all attorneys agree, and if you dig deep enough into a topic, you'll probably be lucky to find any two attorneys that agree on everything involved. I'd also hope that the people making laws would involve more people who are not attorneys than those who are. I'm left wondering how any who fall under the "IANAL" group title, the overwhelming majority of the US citizens, are to abide by the laws if they are just clueless as to WTH the statutes mean. The attorneys often can't seem to agree on it. If someone writes something, they should accept the READERS interpretation of WTH it means or they've failed to write it sufficiently enough to get the message from their mind to the reader. This post by Blackman will not result in him getting more Christmas cards this year than he did last year! Edited by kbp, Sep 15 2014, 08:55 AM.
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| kbp | Sep 16 2014, 08:28 AM Post #960 |
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I'm hitting loads of MSM articles that are trying to brag about Obamacare because health care prices overall did not make a big increase over the last year. They explain apples while we're experiencing oranges. The majority of the insurance policy premium cost increases for the general public hit when they changed the regulations. The exchange policy premiums are going up more than twice as much as those in the general public and the 3-R's taxpayer rescue tool does not expire until the end of this year, so next year is an even bigger concern for exchange premiums. As for direct cost increases from actual health care services, they surpassed inflation (the rate reported anyway!) and the demand will grow from both the aging population and the increase in the number of people with coverage. That's when the supply of doctors available becomes a concern for prices. |
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