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| kbp | Aug 5 2014, 12:09 PM Post #871 |
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From that WaPo article:
The court that just ruled on the Halbig case, when considering what the HELP and Finance bills meant in displaying what Congress intended, had stated:
This looks like a direct link to tie the HELP bill to ACA and show that the HHS established exchange subsidies were DROPPED, getting past that "unenacted legislation are too uncertain" issue. Edited by kbp, Aug 5 2014, 12:10 PM.
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| kbp | Aug 5 2014, 01:13 PM Post #872 |
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Unfortunately, I suspect the "four Obama appointees on it" do not make me feel secure in guessing that "the collegiality that is indispensable to judicial decision-making" will be a strong factor they'll give much weight to. How the balance of the 11 will go, I have no idea. If they do rehear it, that might add to the reasons for SCOTUS to take the case, as it evidently has "exceptional importance" as a case or develops into an "exceptional importance" case because the DC Court took it and SCOTUS questions 'why' they did such. Edited by kbp, Aug 5 2014, 01:14 PM.
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| kbp | Aug 5 2014, 11:51 PM Post #873 |
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http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/plan-to-simplify-2015-health-renewals-may-backfire/2014/07/27/40a3336a-158d-11e4-88f7-96ed767bb747_story.html Plan to simplify 2015 health renewals may backfire It is still not fixed! |
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| Mason | Aug 6 2014, 06:45 AM Post #874 |
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. It was 10 months ago, that Nancy Pelosi said they just need to take out that glitch! The Web-site is the easy part, too. The next phase is going to be hiding the cost increases. Maybe keep them between Insurance and companies and the Gov, as long as they can. People are going to hosptial more - and that was the bedrock for all the "savings", supposedly. . Edited by Mason, Aug 6 2014, 06:46 AM.
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| kbp | Aug 6 2014, 08:00 AM Post #875 |
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http://online.wsj.com/articles/poorly-managed-healthcare-gov-construction-cost-840-million-watchdog-finds-1406751529 Poorly Managed HealthCare.gov Construction Cost $840 Million, Watchdog Finds Government Accountability Office Says Risks Remain Without Improved Oversight at Health Agency My comments... The enrollment numbers reported to date can't be verified. A count of the uninsured now being covered by Obamacare is not available, so they have to push some irrelevant polling that shows a reduction in that number. The costs for Obamacare have doubled, and they are increasing with changes that violate the law in which the CBO said they can't calculate. The public is shouldering increased premium costs to redistribute health care. Now, after almost 4 years, their web system is still NOT complete. We have a high-tech "honor" system that they praise simply because it could have been worse and was at the start when they opened enrollment. It's like a new car that had only one wheel and the repair was to add a second wheel and staff that runs along side the vehicle to keeps it somewhat balanced ...a staff states are asking for mo' money to fund, the HHS is shifting funds to cover and they are not yet half way done with completing the enrollment tasks their "honor" system created. Edited by kbp, Aug 6 2014, 08:01 AM.
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| kbp | Aug 6 2014, 08:53 AM Post #876 |
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What a BS statement in search of casting some unidentified positive results about an incomplete task! Obama success: ...it could have been worse! Edited by kbp, Aug 6 2014, 08:54 AM.
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| kbp | Aug 6 2014, 09:22 AM Post #877 |
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I'm seeing quite a few positive headlines about 2 quarter profit/loss reports coming from the big insurance companies. The general summary is it seems like 6-10% reductions in profit are good news nowadays. Go figure... as they brag about making less on higher revenue. They just say it is better than they expected with the Obamacare changes! |
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| kbp | Aug 6 2014, 09:40 AM Post #878 |
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http://www.washingtonpost.com/national/tax-challenge-to-obamacare-rejected/2014/07/29/556fc1de-1743-11e4-88f7-96ed767bb747_story.html Appeals court rejects tax challenge to Obamacare Rejecting the latest effort to sidetrack “Obamacare,” a federal appeals court turned away a challenge by a conservative group that said Congress imposed new taxes unconstitutionally when it created the Affordable Care Act. Pacific Legal Foundation and a small-business owner, Matt Sissel, argued that the Affordable Care Act is a bill for raising revenue and that it violated the Origination Clause of the Constitution because it began in the Senate, not the House. The Constitution requires that legislation to raise revenue must start in the House. In a 3-0 ruling, the U.S. Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia Circuit said that rather than being a revenue-raising device, it is beyond dispute that the paramount aim of Obamacare is to increase the number of Americans covered by health insurance and decrease the cost of health care. “The Supreme Court has held from the early days of this nation that revenue bills are those that levy taxes in the strict sense of the word, and are not bills for other purposes which may incidentally create revenue,” the appeals court decision said. [So Robert's TAX is only a TAX when it is convenient to have it declared a TAX?] The challengers to the law said it began in the Senate when Majority Leader Harry Reid took an unrelated House bill and inserted language that became the Affordable Care Act. The original measure was designed to help veterans buy homes. Appeals judge Judith Rogers, an appointee of President Bill Clinton, wrote the opinion for the court. The other two judges in the case — Cornelia Pillard and Robert Wilkins — are appointees of President Barack Obama. Pacific Legal Foundation said the appeals court judges adopted a vague general purpose test for deciding which taxes have to start in the House and which do not. The Constitution, the organization said, makes no such distinction and neither does Supreme Court precedent. The group said it will pursue the issue — up to the Supreme Court if necessary. The appeals court said the Supreme Court acknowledged that the shared responsibility payments for not signing up for coverage may ultimately generate substantial revenues — potentially $4 billion in annual income for the government by 2017. But those revenues are a byproduct of the Affordable Care Act’s primary aim to induce participation in health insurance plans, said the appeals court. Successful operation of Obamacare, the appeals court pointed out, would mean less revenue from the shared responsibility payments, not more. |
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| chatham | Aug 6 2014, 09:43 AM Post #879 |
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Looks like this could end back in the supreme court where roberts gets a chance to change his mind. |
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| kbp | Aug 6 2014, 10:38 AM Post #880 |
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He'd come up with some baffling exception to what TAX means! |
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| kbp | Aug 6 2014, 11:12 AM Post #881 |
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This is disturbing! Her job is to interpret laws the people are subject to. It seems to me that any local, state or federal law must never violate laws of higher authority. The nation declared its independence with a preamble that notes our right to life.
...the obligations that citizens have ...they have no constitutional right to foist that belief on the hundreds and hundreds of women who work for them Ginsburg seems to skip past what determines the level of authority a law or a governing body may have in this nation to add to our "obligation" to others. All to force the "obligation" on others to furnish abortion pills for women employees. That's as bad as telling a person he can't grow corn on his own property to feed his livestock. |
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| Mason | Aug 7 2014, 01:26 PM Post #882 |
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. Katherine Sebelius, Mar 23rd, 2010 SEBELIUS: We will now have affordable coverage for everyone. In 2014, when the new exchanges -- the new insurance market gets set up, not only will people have choices among private plans with competing companies, but the lowest income working families will have some help paying for their health insurance. So people who have insurance right now will see some gradual decrease in their premium costs, according to the Congressional Budget Office, because insurance companies are going to have to cut out a lot of the overhead, be more efficient." THERE YOU GO. . Edited by Mason, Aug 7 2014, 01:28 PM.
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| kbp | Aug 7 2014, 09:25 PM Post #883 |
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http://dailycaller.com/2014/08/07/time-to-ditch-the-obamacare-tanning-tax/?advD=1248,153371 Time To Ditch The Obamacare Tanning Tax Americans have now had ample time to become acquainted with Obamacare’s numerous destructive provisions. Some of its failures, like the expensive and inoperable exchange websites, have been quite public. Others have gone largely unnoticed. One such example is the hefty 10 percent tax on indoor tanning sessions, which has proven over four years to be a decisive policy failure. One of over a dozen new taxes and tax hikes included to pay for the bloated health care law, the tanning tax has failed to produce anything near its projected revenues. Collected receipts are less than half of the $200 million projected to be raised annually by this stage, and are unlikely to rise to the eventual $300 million peak foreseen by government bean counters. This shouldn’t come as much surprise given the simple economic truth that when you tax something, there will be less of it. In that sense the tax has produced exactly what government accountants should have expected – fewer tanning salons. An estimated 8,000 professional tanning businesses have closed shop since the tax was implemented, costing approximately 64,000 workers their jobs. That’s a tough pill to swallow in a weak job market. And in a twist of political irony for a White House that has capitalized heavily on rhetoric bemoaning a so-called war on women, pain from the tanning tax has not been gender neutral. A full 70 percent of professional tanning businesses are owned by women, so it is women who have suffered the heaviest economic consequences of the tax.... |
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| wingedwheel | Aug 7 2014, 10:19 PM Post #884 |
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0bama isn't going to let congress get rid of his |
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| kbp | Aug 7 2014, 10:23 PM Post #885 |
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I had never thought about whether or not AA's work on tans. I know many AA women that lay out in the sun, but I suppose that is not necessarily to tan. |
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