| Healthcare Bill Part III; Obamacare | |
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| kbp | Mar 10 2014, 01:18 PM Post #61 |
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Take 2 aspirin and call me in the morning... |
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| chatham | Mar 10 2014, 02:04 PM Post #62 |
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They have no emergency dept. patient care is by referral or appointment. |
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| kbp | Mar 10 2014, 03:02 PM Post #63 |
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Well, at least fewer will die from Obamacare!
Barry was to save millions by denying Medicare patients medicines necessary for transplants ...a part of the hundreds of billions in Medicare savings to be used to pay for coverage of the uninsured ...the more equal class under Obamacare! |
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| kbp | Mar 10 2014, 03:11 PM Post #64 |
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http://cnsnews.com/news/article/susan-jones/cruz-obamacare-could-be-gone-2015-or-2017 Cruz: Obamacare Could Be Gone in 2015 -- or 2017 Sen. Ted Cruz (R-Texas) says the Democrats' Affordable Care Act could be repealed next year -- or in 2017. In an interview taped for ABC's "This Week," Cruz was asked about his recent comment that he would repeal "every single word of Obamacare." "We can acknowledge that that's not going to happen while Barack Obama is president, right?" ABC correspondent Jon Karl asked Cruz. "Yeah, I'll give you one scenario where it could. If there's one thing that unifies politicians of both parties, (it) is, their top priority is preserving their own hide. And if enough Congressional Democrats realize they either stand with Obamacare and lose -- or they listen to the American people and have a chance of staying in office -- that's the one scenario we could do it in 2015. If not, we'll do it in 2017. "So you honestly think there is a chance that you could get Obamacare repealed -- every word, as you say?" Karl asked. "Every single word," Cruz said. "With Obama in the White House?" Karl pressed. "You know, what's funny, Jon, is, the media treats that as a bizarre proposition -- " "Well, it is -- it is a bizarre proposition," Obamacare-defender Jon Karl said. "It is the most unpopular law in the country," Cruz said. "Millions of people have lost their jobs, have lost their health care, have been forced into part-time work, have their premiums skyrocketing, and right now, Washington isn't listening to those people. That's how we win elections, and that's also how we repeal Obamacare." |
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| Baldo | Mar 10 2014, 08:27 PM Post #65 |
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New O-Care regs slash fees for some unions A slate of final Affordable Care Act regulations issued Wednesday would give some labor unions a partial reprieve from fees under the landmark healthcare law. Revamped standards issued by the Department of Health and Human Services include changes to “reinsurance fees,” designed to tax health plans from 2014-2016 and will be used to help stabilize the individual market as sick patients come on board. Labor and business groups alike have criticized the fees, uniting behind federal legislation calling for their repeal. As initially envisioned, the reinsurance fee was to generate about $25 billion in revenue over the three years, beginning this year with a $63 per person charge. The regulations issued Wednesday, however, change the way the fees will be collected and take steps to prevent more than one payment per enrollee. Importantly, the new rules would “exclude from the obligation to make reinsurance contributions for 2015 and 2016 certain self-insured, self-administered group health plans.” Many unions have such plans and will not have to pay the reinsurance fees for those years under the new language, though the fees are just one of labor’s gripes about the law....snipped http://thehill.com/blogs/regwatch/healthcare/200041-new-o-care-regs-slash-fees-for-some-unions So who makes up the difference? The others who are not the "certain" self-insured, self-administered group health plans Edited by Baldo, Mar 10 2014, 08:27 PM.
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| wingedwheel | Mar 10 2014, 09:46 PM Post #66 |
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Did Cruz make a stop in Colorado? Repeal isn't going to happen with 0bama in office. No democrats will go along with it in the senate. Therefore we won't get the numbers to overturn a veto. |
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| kbp | Mar 10 2014, 11:26 PM Post #67 |
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2015 is based on the idea the Dems lose the senate and pressure grows out of control |
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| wingedwheel | Mar 11 2014, 12:06 AM Post #68 |
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I get the scenario. I just don't see the math ever working out for the GOP while 0bama is in office. |
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| Baldo | Mar 11 2014, 12:32 AM Post #69 |
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I do not see any possibility Obama would allow the repeal of his Legacy. "Obamacare." The only way that could happen is for the Republicans to capture a veto proof 60 seats in the Senate in the 2014 Election. That is an unlikely scenario. It leaves it them to Jan 2017 and a new President & new Congress. Honestly who knows what will happen then. Edited by Baldo, Mar 11 2014, 12:34 AM.
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| Mason | Mar 11 2014, 02:21 AM Post #70 |
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. Every TV Talking Head playing a conservative said to leave it alone - it would fail under its own weight. Like they've never looked at the Tax code, sure. Obama made more changes in the last couple days - exempting core unions from some of the taxes. Has anyone noticed that everything cancelled, removed, and put off was supposed to finance the law? If the CBO did a real calculation with the latest info, it would show an explosion. . |
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| Baldo | Mar 11 2014, 10:52 AM Post #71 |
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From John Batchelor Show - Monday 10 March 2014 / Hour 1, Block D Re: Affordable Care Act. Discussion All of DC: only 5,000 people have signed up – how many on Medicaid? Can’t find out. Also, three weeks before people who have by law to be signed up, many don’t even know of it TJM: "It's a representative govt; why should people in DC know about it if Congresspersons haven't even read the bill?" Jeff Bliss, The Bliss Index: In California, about 15% of those who've signed up have not paid. Do they think it’s free? . No one on the GOP side has been able to explain why ACA is bad and what can be done to reform it. They have nothing better; "We don’t like it it's not good" doesn't quite do it. http://www.johnbatchelorshow.com/podcasts/2014/03/10/first-hour discussion starts at 33:45 min mark of clip Edited by Baldo, Mar 11 2014, 11:06 AM.
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| kbp | Mar 11 2014, 11:34 AM Post #72 |
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That's a big issue for the 2016 election if GOP takes Senate majority in 2014 and Barry refuses to repeal Obamacare... the delays for the 2014 election moved them into the horizon for 2016 election... the Dem's can only hope the economy picks up a good head of steam by then and that is VERY unlikely. ADD: Of course a better plan will be the topic then. Edited by kbp, Mar 11 2014, 11:34 AM.
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| Kerri P. | Mar 11 2014, 12:32 PM Post #73 |
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http://tinyurl.com/jwozbb9 Justice Dept.: At Least 35% Of People Eligible For Obamacare's Medicaid Expansion Have Criminal Histories If you listen to the President, and other supporters of Obamacare, you might get the impression that the reason why tens of millions of Americans go without health insurance is because these people have pre-existing conditions, and health insurers are too mean to cover them. The truth is quite different. Less than a million Americans lack health insurance because of a pre-existing condition. And it turns out that a good number of Americans are uninsured not because they are sick, but because they are convicted criminals. When Obamacare was signed into law in 2010, the Congressional Budget Office estimated that half of the law’s expansion of health insurance coverage would come from expanding Medicaid, America’s government-run health insurance program for the poor. However, in 2012, the Supreme Court ruled that states could decline to expand their Medicaid programs; thus far, 25 states have held off. As the debate continues in those holdout states, one data point has gotten almost no attention. It turns out that more than a third of the U.S. population eligible for the Medicaid expansion are ex-cons. In 2011, the U.S. Department of Justice estimated that “at least 35 percent of new Medicaid eligibles under the Affordable Care Act will have a history of criminal involvement.” Snip...... Edited by Kerri P., Mar 11 2014, 12:33 PM.
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| Baldo | Mar 11 2014, 09:51 PM Post #74 |
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White House STILL won't say how many Obamacare enrollees have paid for plans, but announces 4.2 million total through February – just 60 per cent of original goal As March 31 deadline approaches, the administration is nowhere near its original goal of 7 million signups – or its revised target of 6 million But the administration hasn't said how many have paid their premiums, claming their accounts-payable system isn't yet set up to compute totals Seven U.S. states, however, have released their paid/unpaid numbers, and those figures indicate that just 3.3 million have paid for insurance The White House has asked insurers to cut delinquent enrollees some slack, but some insurance execs say they won't do it A troubling survey from a health care consultancy found last week that just 27 per cent of enrollees were previously uninsured As of March 1 about 4.2 million Americans had signed up for medical insurance coverage through the Affordable Care Act, according to numbers released Tuesday by the Obama administration. But it remains unclear how many of those enrollees have put their money where their mouse is. Combined figures published by Obamacare marketplaces in California, Connecticut, Maryland, Nevada, Rhode Island, Vermont and Washington indicate that just 79 per cent of signups in those states have come with checks attached. If those numbers were to hold up nationally, it would mean that about 1.1 million Obamacare enrollees have selected insurance plans without paying for them – bringing the actual total of Obamacare-insured Americans down to 3.3 million....snipped http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2578645/White-House-STILL-wont-say-Obamacare-enrollees-paid-plans-announces-4-2-million-total-February-just-60-cent-original-goal.html |
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| Baldo | Mar 11 2014, 09:55 PM Post #75 |
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ObamaCare's Secret Mandate Exemption HHS quietly repeals the individual purchase rule for two more years. March 11, 2014 7:15 p.m. ET ObamaCare's implementers continue to roam the battlefield and shoot their own wounded, and the latest casualty is the core of the Affordable Care Act—the individual mandate. To wit, last week the Administration quietly excused millions of people from the requirement to purchase health insurance or else pay a tax penalty. This latest political reconstruction has received zero media notice, and the Health and Human Services Department didn't think the details were worth discussing in a conference call, press materials or fact sheet. Instead, the mandate suspension was buried in an unrelated rule that was meant to preserve some health plans that don't comply with ObamaCare benefit and redistribution mandates. Our sources only noticed the change this week. That seven-page technical bulletin includes a paragraph and footnote that casually mention that a rule in a separate December 2013 bulletin would be extended for two more years, until 2016. Lo and behold, it turns out this second rule, which was supposed to last for only a year, allows Americans whose coverage was cancelled to opt out of the mandate altogether. In 2013, HHS decided that ObamaCare's wave of policy terminations qualified as a "hardship" that entitled people to a special type of coverage designed for people under age 30 or a mandate exemption. HHS originally defined and reserved hardship exemptions for the truly down and out such as battered women, the evicted and bankrupts. But amid the post-rollout political backlash, last week the agency created a new category: Now all you need to do is fill out a form attesting that your plan was cancelled and that you "believe that the plan options available in the [ObamaCare] Marketplace in your area are more expensive than your cancelled health insurance policy" or "you consider other available policies unaffordable." This lax standard—no formula or hard test beyond a person's belief—at least ostensibly requires proof such as an insurer termination notice. But people can also qualify for hardships for the unspecified nonreason that "you experienced another hardship in obtaining health insurance," which only requires "documentation if possible." And yet another waiver is available to those who say they are merely unable to afford coverage, regardless of their prior insurance. In a word, these shifting legal benchmarks offer an exemption to everyone who conceivably wants one. Keep in mind that the White House argued at the Supreme Court that the individual mandate to buy insurance was indispensable to the law's success, and President Obama continues to say he'd veto the bipartisan bills that would delay or repeal it. So why are ObamaCare liberals silently gutting their own creation now? The answers are the implementation fiasco and politics. HHS revealed Tuesday that only 940,000 people signed up for an ObamaCare plan in February, bringing the total to about 4.2 million, well below the original 5.7 million projection. The predicted "surge" of young beneficiaries isn't materializing even as the end-of-March deadline approaches, and enrollment decelerated in February....snipped http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB10001424052702304250204579433312607325596?mg=reno64-wsj&url=http%3A%2F%2Fonline.wsj.com%2Farticle%2FSB10001424052702304250204579433312607325596.html |
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