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| Baldo | May 12 2014, 05:09 PM Post #526 |
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I agree that unfortunately we have to watch this play out. Sort of like Pelosi's "you have to pass it to find out what's in it." In this case we don't know what the consequences will be. I am always wary of massive changes to any system. I think we are starting seeing the results here & in other policies set by the Obama Administration. |
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| LTC8K6 | May 13 2014, 09:24 AM Post #527 |
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Assistant to The Devil Himself
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http://hotair.com/archives/2014/05/13/billion-dollar-obamacare-contract-pays-people-to-do-nothing/
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| kbp | May 13 2014, 11:33 AM Post #528 |
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Every time I see any discussion citing the enrollment of "8+ million" as if it is fact I just want to reach out and slap the Fox commentators. |
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| kbp | May 13 2014, 11:40 AM Post #529 |
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Two levels of care... The general outcome of Obamacare Exchange plans is a catastrophe policy that covers some preventive maintenance if you can find a provider. That's a huge factor for the savings in premiums for a group that has trouble paying deductibles and co-pays! Edited by kbp, May 13 2014, 11:41 AM.
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| chatham | May 13 2014, 02:04 PM Post #530 |
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I notice Obama gives a lot to the rich. And he can get away with criticizing them for not doing enough to help the lower classes. Why? Because both Obama and the rich know the Obama can be stopped anytime the rich want to stop him. They don't because they keep getting more control. One world order on the horizon. |
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| kbp | May 13 2014, 04:09 PM Post #531 |
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It's the first part of May. I'd guess the rate submittal has been in the hands of the state at least 30 days, which should put the submittal date at early April. They had very limited data to refigure their rates. I doubt the numbers will get better over time. |
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| kbp | May 13 2014, 04:16 PM Post #532 |
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More on the Virginia rate hikes... Recall that the House Committee showed that the numbers they had by April 15 showed the head count 1.8 million less for the federal exchange than the HHS had reported*. There may have been a few signed up in April, but the variance loos major. This will alter rates more in the long run, as the fewer enrollments that were mostly previously insured will hit harder on the target for payout percentage. * Think enrollments v. "sign ups" Edited by kbp, May 13 2014, 04:17 PM.
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| nyesq83 | May 13 2014, 04:45 PM Post #533 |
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Paid $477 for May premium in Gold Plan. Got a doc recommendation. Called for a new patient appt. yesterday. Next available is June 12. wtf? I will fill out forms and go in person next week. |
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| Baldo | May 13 2014, 05:26 PM Post #534 |
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I listened to Cavuto this afternoon and they had a doctor who has been on before commenting about Obama-care. They covered some of the info posted earlier. The vast majority of those new enrollees are not new, but either signed up for Medicaid, lost their insurance, or were totally new. He quoted a couple of studies which others have posted. They believe after throwing out the number who actually paid, the total newly enrolled will be 1-2 million. He also believed the worse is yet to come as the delayed business mandate starts to become in effect. The new policies will probably be at least 10% higher. Bur one of the the worse aspect for consumers is the deductibles, which are soaring. So you might get a plan with only a small increase you will find your deductible went from 2000 to 5000. He said the young demographics are going to be walloped when they think they are covered, but have to pay such a high deductible. The other problem is the increase in those with medicaid. He said the system is already overtaxed & under-funded. You just won't be able to get the service you want. So it was a lot of gloom & doom. As for reality it will take time to truly see the results of Obama-care. Let's face it anytime the Govt takes over anything it is never cheaper. |
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| kbp | May 13 2014, 08:39 PM Post #535 |
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Sorry you have to experience that. They went from the starting point of the original coverage and pushed towards a provider network that might be so limited that they had to rework it. In order to reduce the premium increase, they bumped deductible and co-pay. You're stuck with something in the middle, with some going a little further with the Gold and Platinum. The next couple years will only be worse. Premiums are going up and traffic for the same Dr's will slow the process down further ...unless everybody wants even higher deductibles. All this while we hear about the success! |
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| kbp | May 13 2014, 08:43 PM Post #536 |
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http://thefederalist.com/2014/05/12/c-s-lewis-and-the-science-of-obamacare/
The scientific consensus, it's settled! |
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| kbp | May 13 2014, 08:56 PM Post #537 |
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The scientific consensus, it's settled!
The scientific consensus, it's settled! Well, not if you look at the numbers! |
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| kbp | May 13 2014, 09:15 PM Post #538 |
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http://hotair.com/archives/2014/05/13/great-news-in-euphemisms-employers-may-pay-to-push-their-workers-off-of-health-insurance/ Good read here. |
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| Mason | May 13 2014, 11:08 PM Post #539 |
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. Let's make out none of this is happening. http://dailycaller.com/2014/05/13/insurer-obamacare-customers-must-break-choice-habit/ . Edited by Mason, May 13 2014, 11:09 PM.
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| kbp | May 14 2014, 07:46 AM Post #540 |
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...break people away from the choice habit...this fixation on open access and broad networks Networks... The insurance companies were caught expanding their networks with providers that did not agree to be a part of it. This happened all across the nation. The solution for that right to health coverage is for all to accept less... redistribution. |
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