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http://www.onenewsnow.com/politics-govt/2014/05/07/its-time-to-ask-hhs-nominee-the-tough-questions#.U2pZvCi9VSV

It's time to ask HHS nominee the tough questions

A health policy expert is warning that hard questions must be asked of the next head of Health and Human Services - because whoever it is, that person could wield tremendous influence on the future of America's healthcare system.

Senate confirmation hearings begin tomorrow for Sylvia Matthews Burwell, President Obama's nominee to replace Kathleen Sebelius as Health and Human Services secretary. As reported earlier this week by OneNewsNow, Michael Cannon, director of health policy studies at the Cato Institute, wants senators to ask the HHS nominee what would have to happen for her to tell Congress to examine the healthcare law because it's not working.

"I wonder if she would say that at no point will she ever acknowledge that ObamaCare is not working," Cannon considers, "in which case that would call into question her fitness for office .... [s)he would have really poor judgment if she thinks it's impossible that this thing could fail – or could keep on acting as if it's succeeding when it's clearly failing."

Meanwhile, the Cato spokesman says another important question is how Burwell would use the powers that she would have under the Independent Payment Advisory Board (IPAB).

"This is ObamaCare's so-called 'death panel.' I call it a 'life panel,'" he mentions. "But whatever you call it, it's a super legislature that has the ability to pass laws and enforce laws even if Congress opposes those laws and votes to try to block them.

"Sylvia Burwell, as the secretary of Health and Human Services, would get to wield some or all of IPAB's really sweeping powers."

Cannon adds that if Congress doesn't repeal the Independent Payment Advisory Board, then as of 2020, Congress can never change any law that IPAB passes.

"It can't alter it, it can't change it, it can't block those laws," he emphasizes.
[IOW, Congress could do nothing if anyone serving as secretary of HHS had control of an active IPAB]
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http://dailycaller.com/2014/05/06/report-one-obamacare-tax-could-cost-up-to-286000-jobs/?print=1

Report: One Obamacare Tax Could Cost Up To 286,000 Jobs
Posted By Sarah Hurtubise

Just one of Obamacare’s many taxes could cost the U.S. hundreds of thousands of jobs over the next decade, according to an industry report published Tuesday.
[A bunch of smaller taxes are harder to notice than the total tax we must pay for Obamacare]


The National Federation of Independent Business projects that between 152,000 and 286,000 jobs will be lost by 2023 due to Obamacare’s health insurance tax. NFIB, a nonprofit association of business owners, actively supports the repeal of the tax.
NFIB: http://www.nfib.com/surveys/hit-cost/?utm_campaign=HIT&utm_source=Research&utm_medium=Release&utm_content=hitcost

The health insurance tax has proved to be one of Obamacare’s more controversial fundraising measures. The tax targets insurance companies, charging each one proportional to their market share — the more health plans sold (Obamacare’s goal, the more insurers are required to pay).
[IOW, according to SCOTUS, they tax you if you do or they tax you if you don't!]

The report found that the tax will cause a spike in the cost of employer-sponsored health coverage, which will lead primarily small businesses to cut jobs. NFIB estimates that 57 percent of the job losses will come from small businesses — firms with under 500 employees, according to the federal Small Business Administration.

The cut in employment would results in a reduction of U.S. real output, or sales, of between $20 billion and $33 billion through 2023.
[It's an increase in production cost across the board, reducing exports]


Obamacare’s health insurance tax “represents a new tax on small business that raises insurance costs for an already struggling Main Street and is contrary to the goals of health care reform,” said NFIB’s Amanda Austin, the director of federal public policy. “Singling out job creators for tax increases makes no sense for our economy, is short-sighted and wrong for our nation’s growth.”

Some states will be disproportionately affected by the projected job losses. California will be hit the hardest, suffering 23,00 jobs lost by 2023 and a lost $4 billion in sales for small businesses, according to the report.
[See states below]

Texas should expect to lose 14,500 jobs by 2023 due to the tax, and duly $2.5 billion in small business sales; Florida is projected to lose 9,700 jobs and $1.2 in small business sales; and in Illinois, 5,500 job lost and $1 billion in small business sales.

The federal government expects to collect $8 billion from the tax in 2014, $11.3 billion in 2015, with the pot growing to $14.3 billion by 2018. While the Obama administration may have intended for the tax to take a hit at insurers’ profits, the cost of the tax will likely be passed along to those purchasing the plans — which in the vast majority of cases are employers.
[Obama campaigned that the tax came from insurance co,'s while the Obamacare law allows for a whopping 20% Oh & Profit ...doesn't take long to figure that one out!]

The American Action Forum, a Washington-based free-market think tank, estimates that the health insurance tax will add $101 onto customers’ premiums in 2014 and $143 in 2015 and 2016.
[Cuts directly into disposable income spent in OUR economy.]



From NFIB:

  • HIGHLIGHTS FROM THE UPDATE:
    California: 23,000 jobs lost by 2023; $4.0 billion in sales lost for California small business
    Colorado: 4,100 jobs lost by 2023; $870 million in sales lost for Colorado small business
    Florida: 9,700 jobs lost by 2023; $1.2 billion in sales lost for Florida small business
    Illinois: 5,500 jobs lost by 2023; $1.0 billion in sales lost for Illinois small business
    Massachusetts: 1,500 jobs lost by 2023; $450 million in sales lost for Massachusetts small business
    New Jersey: 2,000 jobs lost by 2023; $380 million in sales lost for New Jersey small business
    New York: 2,800 jobs lost by 2023; $630 million in sales lost for New York small business
    Ohio: 5,900 jobs lost by 2023; $1 billion is sales lost for Ohio small business
    Pennsylvania: 4,700 jobs lost by 2023; $790 million in sales lost for Pennsylvania small business

    Texas: 14,500 jobs lost by 2023; $2.5 billion in sales lost for Texas small business
    West Virginia: 2,200 jobs lost by 2023; $230 million in sales lost for West Virginia small business

Note on colors:
Obama
Romney
Sometimes liberals get what they ask for!
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Major Insurers To Testify That 10-20 Percent Failed To Pay Premiums By Deadlines
Posted By Sarah Hurtubise


Three major health insurers had between 80 and 90 percent of Obamacare sign-ups pay their insurance premiums, according to testimonies prepared for a Wednesday hearing.

Executives from WellPoint, Aetna and Blue Cross Blue Shield will testify to the House Energy and Commerce Committee Wednesday regarding enrollment in Obamacare exchanges.

WellPoint and Blue Cross Blue Shield appear to have no new information to add from an Energy and Commerce Committee report released last week that found that by April 15, across all insurers operating in federally-run Obamacare exchanges, just 67 percent of sign-ups had paid their premiums, although the deadline to pay had not passed for all premiums.

The report was the first official data on the rate of premium payments from the federal government.

According to testimony from Dennis Matheis of WellPoint, the WellPoint data submitted to House Republicans indicated that when calculated, considering all those who signed up for coverage, roughly 70 percent had paid premiums by April 15, in line with Republicans’ overall findings.

When only exchange applications whose payment deadline had passed by April 15 were considered, WellPoint would only say that “ranging up to 90 percent” had paid, “depending on the state.”

Aetna’s Paul Wingle will testify that the payment rate, again among sign-ups whose payment deadline had passed by the third week of April, “has been in the low- to mid-80 percent range,” in line with ongoing industry estimates of a total payment rate.

J. Darren Rodgers of Health Care Service Corporation, which does business as Blue Cross and Blue Shield in several states, cited payment rates as each month’s deadline passed.

By April 1, 83 percent of the company’s sign-ups whose deadline had passed had paid their premium. By May 1, that number dropped to 68 percent, again in line with House Republicans’ totals, but the payment deadline for all policies effective May 1 may not yet have passed.

The testimonies don’t vary much from House Republicans’ report, which included all 160 insurance carriers active in the federally-run Obamacare exchanges. The committee plans to update their report May 20, when final due dates for premium payments will have passed for most sign-ups.

The Obama administration has been mum regarding payment data for months. By the time insurance coverage became active in January, some sign-ups from the first three months of open enrollment who failed to pay their premiums could have been removed from the official sign-ups tally, but the Obama administration refused to do so.

Rodgers’ testimony includes payment dates beginning Jan. 1, however. Across Health Care Service Corporation sign-ups, 85 percent of those who applied for coverage beginning Jan. 1 paid their premiums by the deadline.

While updated data is clearly available from insurers, the Obama administration continues to tout that exchanges have signed up 8 million people.

The Energy and Commerce Committee will meet with the representatives of all three insurers and other industry officials Wednesday at 10:15 a.m.

Data from the links of the direct answers provided by the "three major health insurers...
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Dennis Matheis of WellPoint
http://docs.house.gov/meetings/IF/IF02/20140507/102194/HHRG-113-IF02-Wstate-MatheisD-20140507.pdf

  • May 7, 2014...
    ...The data included enrollees whose policies have effective dates of April 1, May 1, and June 1 – which means that premiums for such policies would not be due until April 10th, May 10th and June 10th, respectively.
    ...reported enrollment and premium payment data is subject to adjustments. For example, enrollees may elect to drop their coverage, elect to change the effective date of their coverage after submission of their application, or continue to enroll through special enrollment periods.
    In response to the Committee’s request, we submitted the total number of applications received for enrollment in the Federally Facilitated Exchange during the period October 1, 2013 through April 15, 2014. The percentage of applicants that have paid a premium will differ depending on whether the percentage is calculated based on the total number of applications and premium payments received during this entire time period (roughly 70 percent) or is calculated based on the total number of applications and premium payments received for policies whose premium deadline has passed (ranging up to 90 percent depending on the state).


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Aetna’s Paul Wingle
http://docs.house.gov/meetings/IF/IF02/20140507/102194/HHRG-113-IF02-Wstate-WingleP-20140507.pdf
  • May 7, 2014...
    As of the third week of April, Aetna had over 600,000 members who had enrolled, and roughly 500,000 members who paid [83%]. [running close to that percentage on payments due][no separation of on & off exchange numbers]

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J. Darren Rodgers of Health Care Service Corporation
http://docs.house.gov/meetings/IF/IF02/20140507/102194/HHRG-113-IF02-Wstate-RodgersJ-20140507.pdf
  • May 1, 2014...
    HCSC's Enrollment Experience

    At the current time enrollment and payment information (both on and OFF exchanges) can only be presented as of each day when the numbers are counted. ...applicants of policies with an effective date of May 1 may still have time remaining in their payment deadline.
    ...adjustments and reconciliations to this data occurring between the exchanges and HCSC during the implementation process are ongoing...
    ...HSCS records show [on-exchange... 1/1=85%, 2/1=86%, 3/1=88%, 4/1=83%, 5/1=68%]

To start off here, note that "sign ups" do NOT equal the enrollment numbers used to determine the percentage, it is a numbers game HHS is playing. IIRC, the 8 million "sign ups" Obama claimed may have translated into 6 million or less enrollments that decided to get the policy they had in their shopping carts (need to recheck that number!).

None of the three responses includes adjustments for enrollees that have since dropped the coverage.

The payment due date is all over the place, but never prior to coverage start date... the pay later plan will meet the payment due on time next month reality!


...The data included enrollees whose policies have effective dates of April 1, May 1, and June 1 – which means that premiums for such policies would not be due until April 10th, May 10th and June 10th, respectively

I am not aware of any open enrollments for on-exchange plans that start June 1. The extended April 15 date was for May 1 coverage as far as I know.


....adjustments and reconciliations to this data occurring between the exchanges and HCSC during the implementation process are ongoing..

HHS is getting information from the insurance companies daily, while denying that they have the numbers available. The 80%+ paid percentage is not something HHS should want to hide, it's better than many had guessed. The only conclusion I can reach is they're hiding the variance between their "sign ups" and the actual enrollment.

Good enrollment numbers here would not make Obamacare a success, but it sure has become a big mystery game in the process as if it was the only factor controlling the outcome!
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who woulda thunk it?

http://rare.us/story/hhs-reporting-obamacare-enrollment-duplications/

Obamacare
HHS reporting ObamaCare enrollment duplications
naomi
Naomi Lopez-Bauman, Rare Contributor
Posted on May 7, 2014 3:56 pm
- See more at: http://rare.us/story/hhs-reporting-obamacare-enrollment-duplications/#sthash.jYU3HbyX.dpuf
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chatham
May 7 2014, 04:35 PM
who woulda thunk it?

http://rare.us/story/hhs-reporting-obamacare-enrollment-duplications/

Obamacare
HHS reporting ObamaCare enrollment duplications
naomi
Naomi Lopez-Bauman, Rare Contributor
Posted on May 7, 2014 3:56 pm
- See more at: http://rare.us/story/hhs-reporting-obamacare-enrollment-duplications/#sthash.jYU3HbyX.dpuf
I'm still anticipating no-pays near 30% or more if you start with Barry's 8 million.
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I was on the Healthcare.gov site this morning to help an employee with a status change for his wife. We couldn't log on due to an incorrect password. Except the password was not incorrect.

It took us some time to realize that a small announcement was appearing in conjunction with the password message.

It said that Healthcare.gov had reset all user passwords on April 19th, therefore only the "Forgot Password" link could be used. All users had to go through the new password routine.

It just occurred to me that this could have been an attempt to deal with a high number of duplicate/multiple accounts.
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Its a good thing these idiots work for the government rather than Amazon.com
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LTC8K6
May 7 2014, 08:43 PM
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It just occurred to me that this could have been an attempt to deal with a high number of duplicate/multiple accounts.
My guess is it came from a security problem nobody has revealed.
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May 7 2014, 02:31 PM
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http://dailycaller.com/2014/05/06/major-insurers-to-testify-that-10-20-percent-failed-to-pay-premiums-by-deadlines/?print=1

Major Insurers To Testify That 10-20 Percent Failed To Pay Premiums By Deadlines
Posted By Sarah Hurtubise


Three major health insurers had between 80 and 90 percent of Obamacare sign-ups pay their insurance premiums, according to testimonies prepared for a Wednesday hearing.

Executives from WellPoint, Aetna and Blue Cross Blue Shield will testify to the House Energy and Commerce Committee Wednesday regarding enrollment in Obamacare exchanges.

WellPoint and Blue Cross Blue Shield appear to have no new information to add from an Energy and Commerce Committee report released last week that found that by April 15, across all insurers operating in federally-run Obamacare exchanges, just 67 percent of sign-ups had paid their premiums, although the deadline to pay had not passed for all premiums.

The report was the first official data on the rate of premium payments from the federal government.

According to testimony from Dennis Matheis of WellPoint, the WellPoint data submitted to House Republicans indicated that when calculated, considering all those who signed up for coverage, roughly 70 percent had paid premiums by April 15, in line with Republicans’ overall findings.

When only exchange applications whose payment deadline had passed by April 15 were considered, WellPoint would only say that “ranging up to 90 percent” had paid, “depending on the state.”

Aetna’s Paul Wingle will testify that the payment rate, again among sign-ups whose payment deadline had passed by the third week of April, “has been in the low- to mid-80 percent range,” in line with ongoing industry estimates of a total payment rate.

J. Darren Rodgers of Health Care Service Corporation, which does business as Blue Cross and Blue Shield in several states, cited payment rates as each month’s deadline passed.

By April 1, 83 percent of the company’s sign-ups whose deadline had passed had paid their premium. By May 1, that number dropped to 68 percent, again in line with House Republicans’ totals, but the payment deadline for all policies effective May 1 may not yet have passed.

The testimonies don’t vary much from House Republicans’ report, which included all 160 insurance carriers active in the federally-run Obamacare exchanges. The committee plans to update their report May 20, when final due dates for premium payments will have passed for most sign-ups.

The Obama administration has been mum regarding payment data for months. By the time insurance coverage became active in January, some sign-ups from the first three months of open enrollment who failed to pay their premiums could have been removed from the official sign-ups tally, but the Obama administration refused to do so.

Rodgers’ testimony includes payment dates beginning Jan. 1, however. Across Health Care Service Corporation sign-ups, 85 percent of those who applied for coverage beginning Jan. 1 paid their premiums by the deadline.

While updated data is clearly available from insurers, the Obama administration continues to tout that exchanges have signed up 8 million people.

The Energy and Commerce Committee will meet with the representatives of all three insurers and other industry officials Wednesday at 10:15 a.m.

Data from the links of the direct answers provided by the "three major health insurers...
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Dennis Matheis of WellPoint
http://docs.house.gov/meetings/IF/IF02/20140507/102194/HHRG-113-IF02-Wstate-MatheisD-20140507.pdf

  • May 7, 2014...
    ...The data included enrollees whose policies have effective dates of April 1, May 1, and June 1 – which means that premiums for such policies would not be due until April 10th, May 10th and June 10th, respectively.
    ...reported enrollment and premium payment data is subject to adjustments. For example, enrollees may elect to drop their coverage, elect to change the effective date of their coverage after submission of their application, or continue to enroll through special enrollment periods.
    In response to the Committee’s request, we submitted the total number of applications received for enrollment in the Federally Facilitated Exchange during the period October 1, 2013 through April 15, 2014. The percentage of applicants that have paid a premium will differ depending on whether the percentage is calculated based on the total number of applications and premium payments received during this entire time period (roughly 70 percent) or is calculated based on the total number of applications and premium payments received for policies whose premium deadline has passed (ranging up to 90 percent depending on the state).


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Aetna’s Paul Wingle
http://docs.house.gov/meetings/IF/IF02/20140507/102194/HHRG-113-IF02-Wstate-WingleP-20140507.pdf
  • May 7, 2014...
    As of the third week of April, Aetna had over 600,000 members who had enrolled, and roughly 500,000 members who paid [83%]. [running close to that percentage on payments due][no separation of on & off exchange numbers]

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J. Darren Rodgers of Health Care Service Corporation
http://docs.house.gov/meetings/IF/IF02/20140507/102194/HHRG-113-IF02-Wstate-RodgersJ-20140507.pdf
  • May 1, 2014...
    HCSC's Enrollment Experience

    At the current time enrollment and payment information (both on and OFF exchanges) can only be presented as of each day when the numbers are counted. ...applicants of policies with an effective date of May 1 may still have time remaining in their payment deadline.
    ...adjustments and reconciliations to this data occurring between the exchanges and HCSC during the implementation process are ongoing...
    ...HSCS records show [on-exchange... 1/1=85%, 2/1=86%, 3/1=88%, 4/1=83%, 5/1=68%]

To start off here, note that "sign ups" do NOT equal the enrollment numbers used to determine the percentage, it is a numbers game HHS is playing. IIRC, the 8 million "sign ups" Obama claimed may have translated into 6 million or less enrollments that decided to get the policy they had in their shopping carts (need to recheck that number!).

None of the three responses includes adjustments for enrollees that have since dropped the coverage.

The payment due date is all over the place, but never prior to coverage start date... the pay later plan will meet the payment due on time next month reality!


...The data included enrollees whose policies have effective dates of April 1, May 1, and June 1 – which means that premiums for such policies would not be due until April 10th, May 10th and June 10th, respectively

I am not aware of any open enrollments for on-exchange plans that start June 1. The extended April 15 date was for May 1 coverage as far as I know.


....adjustments and reconciliations to this data occurring between the exchanges and HCSC during the implementation process are ongoing..

HHS is getting information from the insurance companies daily, while denying that they have the numbers available. The 80%+ paid percentage is not something HHS should want to hide, it's better than many had guessed. The only conclusion I can reach is they're hiding the variance between their "sign ups" and the actual enrollment.

Good enrollment numbers here would not make Obamacare a success, but it sure has become a big mystery game in the process as if it was the only factor controlling the outcome!
There was more than just those 3 companies testifying to the House Energy and Commerce Committee today (I'm not sure how many now!). More from another company:
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Mark Pratt of State Affairs America’s Health Insurance Plans
http://docs.house.gov/meetings/IF/IF02/20140507/102194/HHRG-113-IF02-Wstate-PrattM-20140507.pdf
  • May 7, 2014...
    Posted Image
Source of my information: https://twitter.com/kerpen/status/463906429108101120/photo/1

They actually double counted shopping carts and didn't even sort it out before dumping on the private insurance companies!
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http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/Obamacare-fees-healthcare-insurance/2014/05/08/id/570202/
Insurance Executives: Obamacare Fees Will Be Passed on to Consumers
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:thud: :thud: :thud:

http://www.kaiserhealthnews.org/Stories/2014/May/07/shifting-employees-to-exchanges.aspx

Employers Eye Moving Sickest Workers To Insurance Exchanges

Can corporations shift workers with high medical costs from the company health plan into online insurance exchanges created by the Affordable Care Act? Some employers are considering it, say benefits consultants.

"It's all over the marketplace," said Todd Yates, a managing partner at Hill, Chesson & Woody, a North Carolina benefits consulting firm. "Employers are inquiring about it and brokers and consultants are advocating for it."

Health spending is driven largely by patients with chronic illness such as diabetes or who undergo expensive procedures such as organ transplants. Since most big corporations are self-insured, shifting even one high-cost member out of the company plan could save the employer hundreds of thousands of dollars a year -- while increasing the cost of claims absorbed by the marketplace policy by a similar amount.

And the health law might not prohibit it, opening a door to potential erosion of employer-based coverage.

"Such an employer-dumping strategy can promote the interests of both employers and employees by shifting health care expenses on to the public at large," wrote two University of Minnesota law professors in a 2010 paper that basically predicted the present interest. The authors were Amy Monahan and Daniel Schwarcz.

It's unclear how many companies, if any, have moved sicker workers to exchange coverage, which became available only in January. But even a few high-risk patients could add millions of dollars in costs to those plans. The costs could be passed on to customers in the form of higher premiums and to taxpayers in the form of higher subsidy expense.

Here's how it might work. The employer shrinks the hospital and doctor network to make the company plan unattractive to those with chronic illness. Or, the employer raises co-payments for drugs needed by the chronically ill, also rendering the plan unattractive and perhaps nudging high-cost workers to examine other options.

At the same time, the employer offers to buy the targeted worker a high-benefit "platinum" plan in the marketplaces. The plan could cost $6,000 or more a year for an individual. But that's still far less than the $300,000 a year that, say, a hemophilia patient might cost the company.

The employer might also give the worker a raise to buy the policy directly.

The employer saves money. The employee gets better coverage. And the health law's marketplace plan --required to accept all applicants at a fixed price during open enrollment periods -- takes on the cost.

"The concept sounds to[o] easy to be true, but the ACA has set up the ability for employers and employees on a voluntary basis to choose a better plan in [the] Individual Marketplace and save a significant amount of money for both!" says promotional material from a company called Managed Exchange Solutions (MES).

"MES works with [the] reinsurer, insurance carrier and other health management organizations to determine [the] most likely candidates for the program."

Charlotte-based consultant Benefit Controls produced the Managed Exchange Solutions pitch last year but ultimately decided not to offer the strategy to its clients, said Matthew McQuide, a vice president with Benefit Controls.

"Though we believe it's legal" as long as employees agree to the change, "it's still gray," he said. "We just decided it wasn't something we wanted to promote."

Shifting high-risk workers out of employer plans is prohibited for other kinds of taxpayer-supported insurance.

For example, it's illegal to induce somebody who is working and over 65 to drop company coverage and rely entirely on the government Medicare program for seniors, said Amy Gordon, a benefits lawyer with McDermott Will & Emery. Similarly, employers who dumped high-cost patients into temporary high-risk pools established by the health law are required to repay those workers' claims to the pools.

"You would think there would be a similar type of provision under the Affordable Care Act" for plans sold through the marketplace portals, Gordon said. "But there currently is not."

Moving high-cost workers to a marketplace plan would not trigger penalties under the health law as long as an employer offered an affordable companywide plan with minimum coverage, experts said. (Workers cannot use tax credits to help pay exchange-plan premiums in such a case, either.)

Half a dozen benefits experts said they were unaware of specific instances of employers shifting high-cost workers to exchange plans. Spokespeople for AIDS United and the Hemophilia Federation of America, both advocating for patients with expensive, chronic conditions, said they didn't know of any, either.

But employers seem increasingly interested.

"I have gotten probably about half a dozen questions about it in the last month or so from our offices around the country," says Edward Fensholt, director of compliance for the Lockton Companies, a large insurance broker and benefits consultant. "They're passing on questions they're getting from their customers."

Such practices could raise concerns about discrimination, said Sabrina Corlette, project director at the Georgetown University Center on Health Insurance Reforms.

They could also cause resentment among employees who didn't get a similar deal, Fensholt said.

"We just don't think that's a good idea,” he said. "That needs to be kind of an under-the-radar deal, and under-the-radar deals never work," he said. Plus, he added, "it's bad public policy to push all these risks into the public exchange."

Hill, Chesson & Woody is not recommending it either.

"Anytime you want to have a conversation with an employee in a secretive, one-off manner, that's never a good idea," Yates said. "Something smells bad about that."
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Such practices could raise concerns about discrimination, said Sabrina Corlette, project director at the Georgetown University Center on Health Insurance Reforms.

They could also cause resentment among employees who didn't get a similar deal, Fensholt said.

"We just don't think that's a good idea,” he said. "That needs to be kind of an under-the-radar deal, and under-the-radar deals never work," he said. Plus, he added, "it's bad public policy to push all these risks into the public exchange."


So, you push everybody onto Obamacare.
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kbp

The question I have is was it written that way intentionally or are they so stupid.
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BCBSNC just said that individual plans in NC will have a rate increase...

http://abclocal.go.com/wtvd/story?section=news/local&id=9532315
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http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/may/8/mccain-burwell-new-captain-obamacare-titanic/

McCain: Burwell new captain of Obamacare ‘Titanic’
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