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| kbp | Mar 6 2014, 11:30 AM Post #31 |
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How ironic that LTC points out the $20,000/year family plan cost for 2016... the POTUS election year! Also, the "Julie Boonstra Strikes Back" commercial is worth taking a minute to watch (link in LTC's post above). |
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| Baldo | Mar 6 2014, 11:43 AM Post #32 |
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Here is the YouTube link to the video LTC8K6posted about Julie Responds: Gary Peters' War on a Brave Woman http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YC2LlVyPPxQ Powerful stuff BTW here is Megyn Kelly's interview with her Megyn Kelly Highlights "Julie's Story" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oC5gwWDf61Q Edited by Baldo, Mar 6 2014, 11:45 AM.
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| kbp | Mar 6 2014, 12:45 PM Post #33 |
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When he's not claiming less is always better, he seems to basically be identifying the pre-Obamacare private insurance as the solution needed. |
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| Baldo | Mar 6 2014, 01:11 PM Post #34 |
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Obama Promises Illegals: Obamacare Sign Up Info Won't Be Used for Deportation Admits "prosecutorial discretion" on immigration has already stretched his "administrative capacity very far." In a joint town hall with Telemundo and Univision, President Obama made a pledge that his administration will not use Obamacare sign up data to deport illegal aliens: "Will we hear from you a pledge, a personal promise, that the information provided in the registration process will not be used for deportation purposes in this country?" "Absolutely," Obama said, putting his hand down for emphasis. "It's true that the undocumented are not eligible [for Obamacare], that's how the law was written, but if you are a U.S. citizen or you have a legal presence in this country, you are eligible," he said. "And none of the information that is provided in order for you to obtain health insurance is in any way transferred to immigration services. So that's something we've been very clear about. If you live in a mixed status family, then the son who could potentially be eligible for the children's health insurance program or some other mechanism to get health insurance, he needs to be signed up. And the mother should not be fearful that in any way that's going to affect -- of course I understand the fear." Obama blamed Congress for deportations. And he said he has already stretched his "administrative capacity very far" by taking immigration actions using "prosecutorial discretion," but that he was "very confident that was the right thing to do." The president finished answering this question by saying, "So, for everybody out there who's in a mixed family, there is no sharing of the data from the health care plan in to immigration services. You should feel confident that if somebody in your family is eligible, you should sign them up." The questions were asked of Obama in Spanish and translated by an onsite translator. http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/obama-promises-illegals-obamacare-sign-info-wont-be-used-deportation_784228.html Obama Promises Illegals: Obamacare Sign Up Info Won't Be Used for Deportation http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MWA3xlmAZSY |
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| kbp | Mar 6 2014, 02:55 PM Post #35 |
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I'm not sure why the illegals information matters, it's like a promise to solve nothing. ***************** http://www.washingtonpost.com/national/health-science/obama-administration-rewrites-some-health-care-policies/2014/03/05/7fa11912-a489-11e3-a5fa-55f0c77bf39c_story.html Obama administration rewrites some health-care policies Good to read, best information is near the end. Linked from the article are the new reporting rules for employers (monthly for each employee!), though I'm not sure what the mandate delay does to this reporting requirement. http://www.treasury.gov/press-center/press-releases/Pages/jl2310.aspx |
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| kbp | Mar 6 2014, 03:19 PM Post #36 |
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Response to HHS/CMS rule change from attorney working to shut down Obamacare ...in a letter to the Court Clerk: http://www.cato.org/sites/cato.org/files/documents/halbig_28j_re_hhs_bulletin.pdf February 28, 2014 Office of the Clerk U.S. Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia Circuit E. Barrett Prettyman United States Courthouse 333 Constitution Avenue, NW Washington, DC 20001 Re: Jacqueline Halbig et al. v. Kathleen Sebelius et al. (No. 14-5018) Dear Clerk of the Court: On February 27, 2014, the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services, a division within Defendant-Appellee U.S. Department of Health and Human Services (“HHS”), issued a bulletin relevant to the issues presented on this appeal. (See Exh. A.) This case involves IRS regulations purporting to extend federal subsidies under the ACA to health coverage purchased through insurance Exchanges established by HHS under § 1321 of the Act, even though the ACA’s plain text limits such subsidies to coverage purchased “through an Exchange established by the State under section 1311” of the Act. (App.Br.17-26.) In its new bulletin, HHS has now eliminated even the requirement that, to be eligible for a subsidy, the coverage must be purchased “through an Exchange.” The bulletin provides that if someone enrolled in “coverage offered outside of the Marketplace [Exchange],” the Exchange may nonetheless later “deem the individual to have been enrolled ... through the Marketplace.” (Exh. A, at 2.) In such cases, the individual “will be treated for all purposes as having been enrolled through the Marketplace since the initial enrollment date,” and so will be eligible on a “retroactive” basis for federal subsidies under 26 U.S.C. § 36B. (Id.) This bulletin is notable for two reasons. First, it further illustrates the Government’s lack of fidelity to the conditions that Congress included in § 36B. Not only does the Government believe that it may simply “deem” HHS-established Exchanges to be established “by the State” notwithstanding the lack of any statutory authority for such transmogrification, but that it may also “deem” individuals who buy coverage outside an Exchange to have purchased it on an Exchange. If such administrative revision—simply “deeming” A to be B—were permitted, there is literally nothing in the ACA (or any other statute) that could not be reversed by agency fiat. Second, the bulletin was issued by HHS, not the IRS. This further demonstrates the intertwined nature of Titles 26 and 42 of the U.S. Code with respect to eligibility for the ACA’s subsidies, and thus the impropriety of according deference to either agency. (App.Br.46-49.) |
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| kbp | Mar 6 2014, 03:33 PM Post #37 |
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https://twitter.com/sam_baker/status/441651201428697088 Sam Baker @sam_baker CMS' Cohen, asked how many uninsured signing up for ACA: “That's not a data point we are really collecting in any sort of systematic way” He's a reporter from National Journal |
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| Baldo | Mar 6 2014, 05:01 PM Post #38 |
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We know what Obama & the Dems will do. Lie, just Lie So it has been 5 months since the roll-out of the Obama-care web site and they don't know how many have actually paid, how many were uninsured, and most likely how many are just Medicaid freebies. I take it back Obama couldn't run a corner Mom & Pop store. What is he doing in the Oval Office? There isn't a CEO that would last with such a horrible record. |
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| wingedwheel | Mar 6 2014, 05:12 PM Post #39 |
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Were we not originally promised illegals wouldn't get 0bamacare? |
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| LTC8K6 | Mar 7 2014, 12:25 AM Post #40 |
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Assistant to The Devil Himself
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http://www.washingtonpost.com/national/health-science/health-insurance-marketplaces-signing-up-few-uninsured-americans-surveys-say/2014/03/06/cdae3152-a54d-11e3-84d4-e59b1709222c_print.html New health insurance marketplaces signing up few uninsured Americans, two surveys find |
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| Mason | Mar 7 2014, 12:28 AM Post #41 |
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. They called Joe Wilson everything in the book - and he was Absolutely Right! Don't look for the media to ask Obama about his Lies and defamation. . |
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| kbp | Mar 7 2014, 01:11 PM Post #42 |
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Numerous times the last couple days I've heard reporters on Fox mention that only 10% of the UNinsured have signed up for Obamacare. There is not proof that is accurate. The UNinsured was estimated to be 45 million, so we'd have 4.5 million for 10%. The HHS/CMS announced that through February they have 4 million "enrollees" from the Obamacare exchange. They will not tell us how many of those were UNinsured. They also have not reported how many of the Medicaid signups came about as a result of the Obamacare expansion 30+ states are participating in. Even if they include the Medicaid signups in that "10%" claim, they are without any source to verify the claim. ...as I write this, a new report popped up... They say a McKinsey Survey showed only 27% of those in Obamacare were UNinsured, which translates to ONE MILLION if we fall for the HHS/CMS head count of enrollees we are not sure of the count for those who paid their share of the premium due. That tells us that less than 1% of the US population has gained coverage through a program that will likely have direct and indirect costs over the next 10 years about $4 TRILLION dollars ($1.8 US budget, $1 premium increases, $1 economy...). Edited by kbp, Mar 7 2014, 01:12 PM.
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| kbp | Mar 7 2014, 01:29 PM Post #43 |
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http://www.nationaljournal.com/health-care/hhs-doesn-t-know-how-many-uninsured-are-signing-up-for-obamacare-20140306 HHS Doesn't Know How Many Uninsured Are Signing Up for Obamacare There's a lot we don't know about how Obamacare enrollment is going. Apparently that's also true even within the Obama administration. Gary Cohen, the soon-to-be-former director of the main implementation office at the Health and Human Services Department, stopped by an insurance industry conference Thursday to offer an update on enrollment. The main points were familiar: People are signing up (about 4 million have picked a plan so far), and the administration is going all out to promote Obamacare over the last few weeks of the enrollment window. But Cohen didn't have much more to offer insurers—who need this to work just as much as the White House—on some of the biggest unknowns about the law's progress: How many uninsured people are signing up? The Congressional Budget Office estimates that the health care law will reduce the number of uninsured people by about 24 million over the next few years, and that about 6 million previously uninsured people will gain coverage through the law's exchanges this year. So, is enrollment on track to meet that goal? Overall enrollment is looking pretty decent, but how many of the people who have signed up were previously uninsured? "That's not a data point that we are really collecting in any sort of systematic way," Cohen told the insurance-industry crowd on Thursday when asked how many of the roughly 4 million enrollees were previously uninsured. New York state is collecting that data, and it says about 70 percent of its enrollees were not covered before, while about 30 percent are changing their coverage rather than gaining it. How many people signed up directly with insurers? When HealthCare.gov was broken in October and November, HHS and insurers agreed on "direct enrollment" as a workaround—encouraging people to sign up directly with insurance companies. It's also an option for people who are too wealthy to get a subsidy to help cover their premiums (the main benefit of using the exchanges), or who had a plan canceled and want to stick with the same carrier. Cohen was asked Thursday how many people have signed up outside the exchanges. "I don't think we have done anything to try to collect that sort of data," he said. How many people has the Medicaid expansion covered? In states that went along with the law's Medicaid expansion, people are now eligible for the program with an income up to 133 percent of the federal poverty line. The administration provides overall Medicaid enrollment numbers, but those reports don't break out who is newly eligible, who was previously eligible but not enrolled, and who was simply renewing their Medicaid coverage through the exchanges. This one, to be fair, is a little tricky. It wouldn't be fair to the administration to assume that Obamacare only gets credit for newly eligible enrollees. There's a huge push underway right now to get people enrolled, and experts always recognized that, with such a big health care push going on in low-income communities, a lot of previously eligible people would get curious and sign up. It's called "woodworking"—people who already could have been enrolled but, for whatever reason, hadn't, until the Obamacare enrollment drive brought them out of the woodwork. |
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| Baldo | Mar 7 2014, 01:33 PM Post #44 |
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What absolute Azzhats. The only reason they don't know is because they either didn't build it in the system because they didn't want to know ' or They do know and it is horrible. For an Administration which is supposed to be onto the "Theory & Application of Big Data" it is pathetic either way. |
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| kbp | Mar 7 2014, 01:55 PM Post #45 |
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http://hotair.com/archives/2014/03/06/just-one-in-10-uninsured-who-qualify-for-obamacare-exchange-plans-have-signed-up/ They have a link and information on where the 10% number came from. It actually means about 5% if you only count those that have paid their premiums. The overall NO-PAY percentage figures out to 22% (47% of 23% + 14% of 77%). This survey of only 395 people conflicts with some actual numbers we've seen from a few states. I still think the NO-PAY percentage is higher than the 20% all have been using, but it may be much lower than the 35% I got from the limited actual numbers that were available. Also remember that the 4 million enrollees for 10-1-13 thru 3-1-14 includes the shopping cart crowd, so we may not even have a half million UNinsured signed up and paid for. |
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