LTC8K6

Apr 21 2014, 07:32 PM

http://twitchy.com/2014/04/19/people-really-need-this-much-hand-holding-government-reminds-citizens-to-pay-their-premiums/

‘People really need this much hand-holding?’: Government reminds citizens to pay their premiums

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http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2014/04/21/congressional-budget-office-projections-on-obamacare-raise-questions-about/

Congressional Budget Office projections on ObamaCare raise questions about future enrollment

President Obama and other officials like to point to projections by the Congressional Budget Office to show that ObamaCare "is working," as the president put it.

He said 8 million have enrolled in the federal exchanges, but the CBO said in a recent report only 6 million are newly insured and some say even fewer than that did not have prior insurance.

"Twenty to 33 percent are actually newly insured and out of 8 million, that would be no more than 2 to 3 million people," said David Hogberg of National Center for Public Policy Research in Washington.

That is why the CBO showed that at the end of this year, there will still be 42 million uninsured and 31 million without insurance ten years from now.

Not only that, but starting in 2018, the CBO report projected the total getting coverage from the exchange will hit 25 million, although at the same time 12 million will lose coverage.

Scott Gottlieb of the American Enterprise Institute said, "So net, you're left with 13 million people who end up on private coverage over the next decade as a result of ObamaCare, and this is according to the Congressional Budget Office's own estimates."

He also said that since more than 5 million have already lost their existing coverage, the 12 million losing their coverage in the future is likely to be a much higher number.

"So I'm hard pressed to believe that over the next decade," Gottlieb said, "there's only going to be 12 million people moved out of private market coverage or the small group or individual market into ObamaCare."

In the meantime, the administration still insists it does not know how many people have actually paid their first premiums, which makes them officially enrolled. Analysts, however, have said all they have to do is ask.

"Every insurance company knows exactly how many people it has insured who have paid their premiums by the first of every month," said Robert Laszewski of Health Policy and Strategy Associates.

"All the administration has to do is go to the insurance companies that are participating in ObamaCare."

In fact, Georgia's insurance commissioner recently announced that of 220,000 applications, only 107,000 have actually paid -- a rate of less than 50 percent -- and almost all were offered subsidies.

Ralph Hudgens, the insurance commissioner, said the number who applied is well short of the 650,000 who were eligible for subsidies.

Most insurance companies have said 15 to 20 percent were not paying, so Georgia's experience could be a troubling sign.

CBO Report of April 2014...

 

Coverage Through the Exchanges. CBO and JCT estimate that, over the course of calendar year 2014, an average of 6 million people will be covered by insurance obtained through the exchanges. The total number who will have such coverage at some points during the year is expected to be more than the average because some people will be covered for only part of the year.

Coverage through the exchanges will vary over the course of 2014 not only because of the increase during open enrollment in the first few months of the year but also because people who experience qualifying life events, such as the loss of employment-based insurance or the birth of a child, will be allowed to purchase coverage later in the year, and because some people will drop their exchange-based coverage as they become eligible for employment-based insurance. The estimate of 6 million people does not include people who enrolled through the exchanges but failed to pay their initial premiums, because they will not be covered; it also does not include people in any part of the year for which they lose coverage because of nonpayment of premiums.

Thus, CBO and JCT’s estimate of 6 million people receiving such coverage in 2014 cannot be compared directly with the number of people who have enrolled through the exchanges as of any given date.6 The number of people who will have coverage through the exchanges in 2014 will not be known precisely until after the year has ended.

CBO and JCT anticipate that coverage through the exchanges will increase substantially over time as more people respond to subsidies and to penalties for failure to obtain coverage. Coverage through the exchanges is pro- jected to increase to an average of 13 million people in 2015, 24 million in 2016, and 25 million in each year between 2017 and 2024. Roughly three-quarters of those enrollees are expected to receive exchange subsidies.

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• the revision of the individual mandate,
  
• the suspension and revision of the employer mandate,
  
• the revision and suspension of the law regulating insurance plans,
  
• the unauthorized expansion of federal subsidies, and
  
• the suspension of the Medicaid maintenance-of-effort provision.

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“Certified Enrollment Entities are paid a flat-fee of $58 per successful application and $25 per successful annual renewal,” according to California Health Benefit Advisers. ”The Enrollment Entities compensate the individual Enrollment Counselors.”

LTC8K6

Apr 22 2014, 03:54 PM

...How come they can track that well enough to pay out renewal fees a year later, but can't get a website to work properly?

kbp

Apr 22 2014, 07:05 PM

LTC8K6

Apr 22 2014, 03:54 PM

...How come they can track that well enough to pay out renewal fees a year later, but can't get a website to work properly?

There is not any big complaints about the website in California.

LTC8K6

Apr 22 2014, 08:58 PM

kbp

Apr 22 2014, 07:05 PM

LTC8K6

Apr 22 2014, 03:54 PM

...How come they can track that well enough to pay out renewal fees a year later, but can't get a website to work properly?

There is not any big complaints about the website in California.

That we know of...

I think putting 1,000 doctors on there, that shouldn't be on there, to get you to sign up, is pretty bad...

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http://www.cato.org/publications/commentary/shocking-secret-behind-obamacare-enrollment-numbers

The Shocking Secret Behind Obamacare Enrollment Numbers

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The D.C. Circuit likely will issue a ruling sometime in the coming months, as will the 4th Circuit, which will hear oral arguments in King v. Sebelius on May 14, another challenge to the legality of the subsidies. Two similar challenges, filed by the attorneys general in Oklahoma (Pruitt v. Sebelius) and Indiana (Indiana v. IRS), await consideration in federal district courts.