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Healthcare Bill Part III; Obamacare
Topic Started: Mar 3 2014, 02:20 PM (48,679 Views)
kbp

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http://blog.heritage.org/2014/04/11/obamacare-charts-obama-doesnt-want-see/
(must follow links to multiple pages to get all these charts)

The Charts Obama Doesn't Want You to See

Talking about Obamacare’s effects is one thing; seeing hard data is another.

Heritage’s newly updated Obamacare in Pictures has 15 charts that show the law’s effects on Americans—from canceled insurance policies to new taxes, Medicare cuts, reduced choice for plans, and more.

If you like your health care plan, can you really keep it?
At least 4.7 million health care plans in the individual market have been discontinued due to new Obamacare rules.
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Obamacare will require employers to make changes to their health care plans
Those with employer coverage might not be able to keep their existing plans either. The vast majority of businesses expect to make changes to their health care plans to comply with Obamacare’s regulations, and more than half of those anticipate the changes to be significant or drastic.
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Premiums are higher in Obamacare exchanges: Age 27
Obamacare says you can stay on your parents’ health insurance until you turn 26. This chart looks at what happens after that—if you don’t have employer-sponsored insurance and you have to get insured through Obamacare. If you’re trying to save for a car or house—or just paying rent to have your own place—seeing your premiums double is quite a blow. Buying individual health insurance in the exchanges is generally more expensive than it was before Obamacare, especially for young adults. In 11 states, 27–year–olds will see premiums double or more.
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Premiums are higher in Obamacare exchanges: Age 50
Buying individual health insurance in the exchanges is generally more expensive than it was before Obamacare. In 13 states, 50–year–olds will see premiums rise by 50 percent or more.
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Premiums are higher in Obamacare exchanges: Family of four
Buying individual health insurance in the exchanges is generally more expensive than it was before Obamacare. In 19 states, premiums for a family of four will increase by more than 10 percent.
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Many Obamacare exchange plans come with higher deductibles
In addition to premium costs, individuals must meet an annual deductible before coverage kicks in. Average individual deductibles in the 36 states with a federally run exchange are much higher than the average individual deductible for employer- sponsored plans in 2013.
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Lack of competition in Obamacare exchanges
More than half of U.S. counties have only one or two insurance carriers selling coverage in the Obamacare exchanges. This lack of competition means less choice for consumers and less market pressure to keep prices down.
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Obamacare's new spending continues to grow
Initial estimates for Obamacare’s spending on the Medicaid expansion and exchange subsidies counted only six years of spending. A full 10–year cost reveals nearly $2 trillion in new spending by 2024.
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Obamacare's Medicaid expansion burdens state budgets
In the vast majority of states, adopting the Medicaid expansion would require additional state spending.
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Millions will remain uninsured under Obamacare
In 2024, after 10 years of full implementation and nearly $2 trillion in new spending, 31 million people will likely remain uninsured. Those who do gain coverage will do so primarily through Obamacare exchanges or Medicaid.
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Obamacare's 18 new taxes and penalties
Obamacare includes 18 new taxes, fees, and penalties, costing taxpayers an estimated $771 billion by 2022.
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Who pays the Obamacare individual mandate tax?
Nearly 70 percent of those projected to pay the Obamacare individual mandate tax earn less than 400 percent of the federal poverty level (FPL) ($45,960 for a single individual in 2013), and 10 percent live in poverty.
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This is the Medicare "savings"...
Obamacare cuts Medicare payments to fund other new programs
Projected Medicare savings from Obamacare do not improve the program’s long-term solvency. Most of the savings are redirected to fund new Obamacare spending.
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Obamacare's Medicare cuts will result in severe access problems for seniors
You may recall Heritage experts’ warning that Obamacare would cut $716 billion from Medicare. That’s still happening.

Despite the Obama administration’s recent walking back of Medicare Advantage cuts for this year, Obamacare’s planned cuts to Medicare are moving forward. This chart shows which parts of Medicare are affected.

Heritage expert Alyene Senger has explained that, instead of cutting waste, fraud, and abuse in the Medicare program, Obamacare targets the amounts Medicare service providers are paid. These cuts have ripple effects on seniors. Doctors, nursing homes, and other providers who can’t afford to be part of Medicare any more will cut back or stop participating—and that means fewer options and less access to care for seniors.

By cutting Medicare payments instead of introducing real reform, the health care law jeopardizes seniors’ access to providers. According to the Medicare trustees, Obamacare’s scheduled reductions to provider payments will cause Medicare’s payments for health services to fall further below providers’ costs. This will cause providers to either withdraw from serving Medicare beneficiaries or shift more costs to their patients with private coverage
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Obamacare remains unpopular
This chart looks a lot like a heartbeat—and it tracks one of Obamacare’s vital signs: public opinion. There has been a 10-point gap between support for and opposition to the law for some time now. That spike in opposition/sharp decline in support? It coincides with the flood of cancellation notices that landed in Americans’ mailboxes last year.

Obamacare remains unpopular because it’s raising taxes, killing jobs, and cutting Americans’ health care choices. We need health reform that reverses these trends.

Opposition to Obamacare has hovered around 50 percent since early 2010. Over the past year, the law has grown even more unpopular.
(note that it is even more unpopular as of this posting)
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kbp

http://washington.cbslocal.com/2014/04/11/obama-sebelius-will-go-down-in-history-for-obamacare/
Obama: Sebelius ‘Will Go Down In History’ For Obamacare


I'm sure we'll all remember her, especially those of us in Kansas ....though we desperately try to forget her!
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jewelcove

Take a look at the first chart in post #391.
Think about the US Senate races that are getting more likely to flip to R. Coincidence?

Colorado,
Minnesota,
Georgia,
Michigan,
Alaska,
Iowa,
NC,
LA,
OR,
AR,
NH,
.....
Edited by jewelcove, Apr 12 2014, 01:38 PM.
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kbp

jewelcove
Apr 12 2014, 01:22 PM
Take a look at the first chart in post #391.
Think about the US Senate races that are getting more likely to flip to R. Coincidence?

Colorado,
Minnesota,
Georgia,
Michigan,
Alaska,
Iowa,
NC,
LA,
OR,
AR,
NH,
.....
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An interesting story about Vermont's proposed Plan fo a single Payer system

Health-Care Reform
Vermont's Single-Payer Dream Is Taxpayer Nightmare

Of the plans that states have hatched for the Affordable Care Act, none has been bolder than that of Vermont, which wants to implement a single-payer health-care system, along the lines of what you might find in Britain or Canada. One government-operated system will cover all 620,000 of Vermont’s citizens. The hope is that such a system will allow Vermont to get costs down closer to Canada’s, as well as improve health by coordinating care and ensuring universal coverage.

Just two small issues need to be resolved before the state gets to all systems go: First, it needs the federal government to grant waivers allowing Vermont to divert Medicaid and other health-care funding into the single-payer system. And second, Vermont needs to find some way to pay for it.

Although Act 48 required Vermont to create a single-payer system by 2017, the state hasn’t drafted a bill spelling out how to raise the additional $1.6 billion a year (based on the state's estimate) the system needs. The state collected only $2.7 billion in tax revenue in fiscal year 2012, so that's a vexingly large sum to scrape together.

Vermont is a middling-tax state, as states go. And that’s not an accident; its population consists of longtime Vermonters, some of whom vote Republican (at least for governor) and are not super-tax-friendly, and transplants from Massachusetts and New York state, who, last time I looked, had moved to Vermont partly because the taxes were lower. Paying for this program would likely make Vermont the highest-taxed state in the nation, by quite a lot....snipped

....So this is going to be expensive. So expensive that I doubt Vermont is actually going to go forward with it.

This should be instructive for those who hope -- or fear -- that Obamacare has all been an elaborate preliminary to a nationwide single-payer system. It isn’t. The politics are impossible, and even if they weren’t, the financing would be unthinkable.


http://www.bloombergview.com/articles/2014-04-11/vermont-s-single-payer-dream-is-taxpayer-nightmare


Again just getting enrollment(Real or Fake) is only the first step. Providing quality service is the bigger issue. Then finally as in all cases where is the money going to come from. Obama, Reid, and Pelosi never never really confronted that. It was just put off for some future President & Congress, and of course the pockets of future taxpayers.

Like much of our leaders in DC it is pass bills, line their pockets and that of their supporters, then head off before the bill comes due.
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http://hotair.com/archives/2014/04/04/video-washington-dc-thinks-covered-california-is-the-crown-jewel-of-obamacare-or-something/

A Covered California nightmare...
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I do remember reading and posting something about difficulty with coverage if you were injured out of your home state. You might not be covered by your Obamacare policy or something.
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kbp

LTC8K6
Apr 13 2014, 10:05 PM
....Several weeks later, in mid-January, I began calling Healthnet asking why I had not received written confirmation from them. During the first call I was counseled to be patient, but during the second call I discovered that our family was not going to get a traditional healthcare plan but would be placed on Medi-Cal because, at the current time, our income was zero.

...and I learned from Covered California that my two younger kids were not overlooked from our Healthnet plan but excluded – because Covered California rules require that anyone 18 years of age and under must be on Medi-Cal. So my two younger kids will have different medical coverage than I, my wife and my 22-year old son. No one at Covered California told me that during the previous two hour call. Let me restate this – if you apply via Covered California for subsidized private insurance, your children will be dumped into government-run Medi-Cal, California’s version of healthcare for the indigent. This decision cannot be appealed... For Covered California applicants, all children are forced into Medi-Cal, regardless of their parents’ wishes.


First issue is I bet the family members are counted on both Obamacare and Medicaid sign ups.

I wonder what they gain by shifting children from subsidized Covered California to Medi-Cal? I suspect it has something to do with reducing the target for the pool to reduce premiums at Covered California.
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kbp

LTC8K6
Apr 13 2014, 10:07 PM
I do remember reading and posting something about difficulty with coverage if you were injured out of your home state. You might not be covered by your Obamacare policy or something.
I know that the Kansas and Illinois (HHS) web sites offer plans with interstate coverage you must select, as they have higher premiums.
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kbp

http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB10001424127887324110404578628542498014414



Even Howard Dean dislikes IPAB.
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kbp

http://www.forbes.com/sites/michaelcannon/2014/04/14/congress-should-ask-burwell-about-ipab-and-the-road-to-serfdom/
Congress Should Ask Burwell About IPAB And The Road To Serfdom
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kbp


A topic I've been looking for media input on.
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http://cnsnews.com/news/article/susan-jones/mccaughey-million-or-more-obamacare-subscribers-will-default

McCaughey: 'A Million or More' Obamacare Subscribers Will Default

A leading Obamacare critic sees trouble ahead for people who signed up for health insurance on the new government exchanges.

First, even the insurance companies that issue the plans are worried about "public pushback" from rising insurance premiums, Betsey McCaughey, the former lieutenant governor of New York and author of the book "Beating Obamacare," told Fox News's Neil Cavuto on Monday.

"That's only part of the bad news," she said. "You're also going to see a million people or more default. In other words, they have paid their first premium, but when they discover what it really means to have a $3,000 or $5,000 deductible on their plan, they go to their doctor again and again and have to pay full freight, even though they're paying a premium, they're going to stop paying their premium.

"Another big problem ahead is the 25 million to 30 million people who currently get on-the-job coverage are going to lose it in the coming months, when their employers realize that they're not going to be able to renew those old plans and they're stuck between the very costly Obamacare plans or sending their workers and their families on to the exchanges.

"And finally you are going to hear a lot of desperation from cancer patients when they discover these Obamacare exchange -- Obamacare exchange plans won`t let them go to any specialty cancer hospitals, even though the data show that, for example, women with ovarian cancer live longer when they`re treated at a high-volume cancer hospital."

According to McCaughey, the CEOs of Aetna and CareFirst-Blue Cross/Blue Shield have warned about double- and even triple-digit premium increases in the next few months.

McCaughey spoke to Fox News after the Congressional Budget Office released a new report estimating that the health care law's coverage provisions will result in
lower net costs to the federal government. The estimated net costs for 2014 -- $36 billion, $5 billion less than the previous projection for the year --stem almost entirely from spending for subsidies that are to be provided through insurance exchanges and from an increase in spending for Medicaid.

McCaughey has said that the Affordable Care Act was designed from the very beginning to vastly expand Medicaid, a single-payer system. Those plans went awry when the U.S. Supreme Court ruled that it's up to the states to expand their Medicaid programs.


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Betsey McCaughey has been correct on Obama-care for a long time. She was one of the first to actually read & study the original bill and warned about its ramifications.

She had made a career being a critic, but what counts is whether she is right.

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kbp

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/04/16/us/politics/census-survey-revisions-mask-health-law-effects.html?_r=2&assetType=nyt_now
Census Survey Revisions Mask Health Law Effects


...and they say the Medicare numbers indicate Burwell would never have control of IPAB. Numbers assembled under the executive branch!
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