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Healthcare Bill Part III; Obamacare
Topic Started: Mar 3 2014, 02:20 PM (48,681 Views)
kbp

“In all likelihood," says Laszewski, "we've only signed up somewhere between one in five and one in seven people who were uninsured prior to the start of ObamaCare."

He's talking about insurance. Is he mixing in Medicaid coverage?

CBO used 55 million, while the count on uninsured without illegals was 46 million (45-48 has been mentioned). The "between one in five and one in seven people" would give us:

55 million = 11 to 7.9 million
46 million = 9.2 to 6.6 million

The head count for coverage from Obamacare Exchange, Obamacare Medicaid Expansion, and Obamacare Regulation for Under-26-Coverage through parents plan gave us somewhere near 6.8 to 10 million signed up or covered.

Laszewski just made it confusing to figure out WTH he was talking about. It certainly doesn't look like ONLY those signed up thru the exchange.
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http://freebeacon.com/issues/californians-upset-over-lack-of-doctors-under-obamacare/

Californians Upset Over Lack Of Doctors Under Obamacare

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eCpHpd4WXKg

BY: Washington Free Beacon Staff
April 4, 2014 10:01 am

Californians are expressing their dissatisfaction with California’s health insurance exchange, CoveredCalifornia.

Covered California’s Executive Director Peter Lee testified before a Congressional committee about the successes of Covered California.

“It takes, in our mind, three things for an exchange to work. It takes having affordable health plans delivering quality care, it takes effective marketing outreach, and it takes effective enrollment,” Lee said.

Sadly though, Californians newly enrolled in Covered California are facing the grim reality that the care they are receiving is neither affordable, nor quality.

Few doctors are accepting the new health insurance plans, Californians say.

One Californian woman told KPIX-CA, “This is not what we were promised.”

Lee admitted, “It’s been rocky, it’s been bumpy. And it will continue to be rocky and bumpy.”


Lee's "three things for an exchange to work" seems to include:
1. affordable health plans
2. quality care
3. effective marketing outreach, and
4. effective enrollment

The last two could be rolled into a single "thing" easier than the first two. Enrollment is the result of marketing and the first two. I wonder how much California pays this guy and the staff writing his speeches?
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http://dailycaller.com/2014/04/07/survey-u-s-sees-sharpest-health-insurance-premium-increases-in-years/?advD=1248,657751
Edited by chatham, Apr 9 2014, 11:22 AM.
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Government: We are going to get you a new Ford Fusion. It will cost less, and have more features than your current Ford. It will be priced like an S, but have Titanium feature levels. You can (can't) keep your old Ford.

Citizen: Where are the $22K Titanium Fusions?

Dealer: :laughin:
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Primary Care Shortage? Not For The Insured, Study Shows
April 8th, 2014,

Researchers posing as nonelderly adult patients made nearly 13,000 calls to primary care practices across Pennsylvania, New Jersey and eight other states between fall 2012 and spring of last year.

What they found may provide some comfort amid growing concerns of doctor shortages, especially as more people gain coverage through the Affordable Care Act, potentially straining the health system.

Dr. Karin Rhodes, from the University of Pennsylvania and a lead author on the study published this week in JAMA Internal Medicine, says when researchers said they had insurance, they were able to make an appointment about 85 percent of the time — on the first try, no less.

“Capacity exists. I think this is a very optimistic message,” Rhodes says, adding that researchers were usually able to get scheduled within a week. The median wait in Massachusetts was about two weeks.

Rhodes acknowledges the study did not examine the quality of care received, the accessibility for returning patients or the role of cost in determining patients’ real access to services.

Low-income uninsured face biggest barriers


Rhodes says the overall accessibility documented through the study is encouraging, but it varied based on what type of insurance the researchers claimed they had. Those calling as Medicaid patients were successful getting appointments about 60 percent of the time on the first try, compared to that 85 percent of the “privately insured.” When calling with Medicaid coverage, they only contacted providers listed as accepting Medicaid.

When Rhodes examined other national patient surveys and studies that honed in on community health centers, Rhodes found that Medicaid variation did not significantly impede access to primary care, although people had fewer choices of providers.

Dr. Andrew Bindman and Janet Coffman of the University of California, San Francisco, worry about how this will play out as more people gain Medicaid coverage. In an accompanying editorial, they emphasized that fewer doctors accept Medicaid and those that do only take a limited number of patients.


“Safety-net clinics provide a disproportionate amount of care to patients covered by Medicaid, which helps fill some of the void, but this approach is insufficient on its own, particularly for meeting the needs for specialty care,” they wrote.

Beyond those with Medicaid and the privately insured, availability dropped for those who said they were uninsured and couldn’t pay much out of pocket. Researchers were four times less likely to get in compared with those calling with Medicaid...snipped

http://capsules.kaiserhealthnews.org/index.php/2014/04/primary-care-shortage-not-for-the-insured-study-shows/


The was in Kaiser news which is a big supporter of Obama-care. The real test is not phony appointments which was probably paid for by Govt Grants.

The test of Obama-care is real access to doctors, real care received, the cost of the service, and the ability to received continuing care.
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Invited Commentary | April 07, 2014
Calling All Doctors..What Type of Insurance Do You Accept?

Through coverage expansion, the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act (ACA) is expected to reduce a major barrier to health care access, the cost of care. However, the law does not ensure that an adequate number of physicians are available and willing to accept a patient’s form of coverage.

One of the main ways that the ACA expands coverage is through the Medicaid program. One particular concern has been whether enough physicians are available to meet the demands for the care of these patients.1 Some of the greatest increases in Medicaid coverage are projected to occur in geographic areas that already have practitioner shortages regardless of payment type. Low Medicaid reimbursement rates further compound the problem. In general, Medicaid programs pay physicians less than Medicare and commercial insurers.2 Physicians are not required to accept Medicaid patients, and research indicates that physicians are less willing to accept these patients in states with lower payment rates.3

There is no systematic monitoring of whether physicians are willing to accept patients with Medicaid coverage. A common approach is to ask physicians through a survey. However, physician nonresponse and inaccurate reporting can undermine the validity of the results.

In this issue, Rhodes et al4 describe a strategy for determining physicians’ willingness to accept new patients with different types of insurance that closely reflects patients’ experiences. They used a simulated patient methodology, which relied on trained staff using a script to call primary care offices in 10 states and request a new patient appointment. By using a reproducible clinical scenario and varying the expected payer information, the investigators were able to estimate the willingness of a sample of practices to accept privately insured, Medicaid, and uninsured patients.

The study was performed during the year before the expansion of Medicaid as a part of the ACA. The findings confirm what physician surveys had previously suggested: there is variation in physicians’ willingness to accept new Medicaid patients across states, and in all states this rate is lower than the rate for privately insured patients. On average, callers with Medicaid coverage were only 68.4% as likely as privately insured callers to obtain a new patient appointment from a primary care physician for the same clinical problem but almost 4 times as likely as uninsured callers with a limited ability to pay. Among callers obtaining an appointment, wait times did not differ by insurance status....snipped

http://archinte.jamanetwork.com/article.aspx?articleid=1857088

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kbp

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http://cnsnews.com/commentary/terence-p-jeffrey/will-government-tell-doctors-they-must-act-against-their-consciences

Will Government Tell Doctors They Must Act Against Their Consciences?

....There were 72.7 million Americans enrolled in Medicaid at some time during fiscal 2013 and 8.4 million enrolled in Children's Health Insurance Program. In 2012, 51.8 million were enrolled in Medicare (although some of these were dual-enrolled in Medicaid).

Before Obamacare is fully entrenched, the federal government has already become the paymaster for the health care of a large share of the nation's 318 million people.

Meanwhile, the number of hospitals has been shrinking — and in a definite pattern.

In 1975, according to the Centers for Disease Control, there were 7,156 hospitals in the United States, including 3,339 non-profit hospitals (which would include those runs by religious organizations), 1,761 local- and state-government run hospitals and 775 for-profit hospitals.

In 2010, there were 5,754 hospitals — about 20 percent fewer than in 1975.

Non-profit hospitals decreased by 435; local and state government hospitals decreased by 693 — but for-profit hospitals increased by 238.

As government increased control of health care through Medicare and Medicaid, non-profit hospitals decreased and for-profit hospitals increased....

The entire column is a good read. I just wanted a portion of it to illustrate something.

It appears that as government involvement increases, where service is headed seems to show "a definite pattern."
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Apr 9 2014, 12:47 PM
Primary Care Shortage? Not For The Insured, Study Shows
April 8th, 2014,

Researchers posing as nonelderly adult patients made nearly 13,000 calls to primary care practices across Pennsylvania, New Jersey and eight other states between fall 2012 and spring of last year.

What they found may provide some comfort amid growing concerns of doctor shortages, especially as more people gain coverage through the Affordable Care Act, potentially straining the health system.

Dr. Karin Rhodes, from the University of Pennsylvania and a lead author on the study published this week in JAMA Internal Medicine, says when researchers said they had insurance, they were able to make an appointment about 85 percent of the time — on the first try, no less.

“Capacity exists. I think this is a very optimistic message,” Rhodes says, adding that researchers were usually able to get scheduled within a week. The median wait in Massachusetts was about two weeks.

Rhodes acknowledges the study did not examine the quality of care received, the accessibility for returning patients or the role of cost in determining patients’ real access to services.

Low-income uninsured face biggest barriers


Rhodes says the overall accessibility documented through the study is encouraging, but it varied based on what type of insurance the researchers claimed they had. Those calling as Medicaid patients were successful getting appointments about 60 percent of the time on the first try, compared to that 85 percent of the “privately insured.” When calling with Medicaid coverage, they only contacted providers listed as accepting Medicaid.

When Rhodes examined other national patient surveys and studies that honed in on community health centers, Rhodes found that Medicaid variation did not significantly impede access to primary care, although people had fewer choices of providers.

Dr. Andrew Bindman and Janet Coffman of the University of California, San Francisco, worry about how this will play out as more people gain Medicaid coverage. In an accompanying editorial, they emphasized that fewer doctors accept Medicaid and those that do only take a limited number of patients.


“Safety-net clinics provide a disproportionate amount of care to patients covered by Medicaid, which helps fill some of the void, but this approach is insufficient on its own, particularly for meeting the needs for specialty care,” they wrote.

Beyond those with Medicaid and the privately insured, availability dropped for those who said they were uninsured and couldn’t pay much out of pocket. Researchers were four times less likely to get in compared with those calling with Medicaid...snipped

http://capsules.kaiserhealthnews.org/index.php/2014/04/primary-care-shortage-not-for-the-insured-study-shows/


The was in Kaiser news which is a big supporter of Obama-care. The real test is not phony appointments which was probably paid for by Govt Grants.

The test of Obama-care is real access to doctors, real care received, the cost of the service, and the ability to received continuing care.
....Those calling as Medicaid patients were successful getting appointments about 60 percent of the time on the first try, compared to that 85 percent of the “privately insured.”

Obamacare exchange plans are limited to the providers within the networks each plan has agreements with. The plans involve cancellation issues that shift the pay burden on to the providers pocketbook.

It's like a Medicaid program that offers just a little more for rates, but does NOT necessarily mean the provider will get paid. Certainly not a program that looks like more providers will be jumping on board for their piece of the pie.
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http://www.newrepublic.com/article/117296/house-republicans-are-quietly-giving-obamacare

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http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-Texas/2014/04/08/Obamacare-Lawsuit-from-Houston-Moving-Forward

OBAMACARE LAWSUIT FROM HOUSTON MOVING FORWARD

KATY, TEXAS--A lawsuit filed by a Houston area doctor against the Affordable Care Act is moving forward to the 5th Circuit Court of Appeals. The lawsuit filed by Dr. Steven Hotze, founder of Hotze Health and Wellness Center in Katy, challenges the Obamacare law based upon the origination clause of the Constitution.

In referring to what is known as The Origination Clause, “Article 1, section 7 of the U.S. Constitution every tax bill, revenue bill has to start in the House of Representatives,” Hotze explained. “It can’t start in the Senate.”

In this exclusive interview below with Breitbart Texas, Dr. Hotze explains how the Senate took a Veterans Tax Credit bill that started in the House and stripped everything out of the bill, including the title, and substituted the Affordable Care Act legislation. “If the Senate can do that, then there is no origination clause, because, the Senate can turn any bill that came from the House into a tax raising bill, and that’s wrong.”

Dr. Hotze’s attorney, Andy Schlaffly told the Washington Times, “What’s nice about this case, Hotze v. Sebelius, is the trial court resolved all the procedural issues in favor of Dr. Hotze, so they got to the substance at the trial level,” said Mr. Schlafly. “That makes this case a stronger case than most of the other ones.”

Dr. Hotze noted in the interview that the 5th Circuit Court is the most conservative court in the country and this makes this lawsuit one of the most likely to survive long enough to make it to the Supreme Court.

The 5th Circuit Court will receive briefs on the case in April. Shortly thereafter, the court will receive amicus briefs from Texas Attorney General Greg Abbott and U.S. Senator John Cornyn in support of Hotze’s lawsuit. Oral arguments should occur by July 1st. The amicus briefs are expected to be joined by several other Attorneys General and other members of the House and Senate.

The outcome will be interesting.
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http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/rand-study-only-36-obamacare-enrollees-were-previously-uninsured_786689.html

RAND Study: Only 36% of Obamacare Enrollees Were Previously Uninsured

A study released Tuesday by the non-profit RAND Corporation found that only 3.9 million people have enrolled in the Obamacare exchanges--a much smaller number than the 7 million sign-ups touted by the Obama administration:

  • By our estimate, 3.9 million people are now covered through the state and federal marketplaces. This number is lower than current estimates of marketplace enrollment through the end of March from the Department of Health and Human Services (DHHS), perhaps because some of the [Health Reform Opinion Study] data were collected in early March. All HROS data collection reported here ended on March 28, and therefore missed the last three days of the open enrollment period, during which time there was a surge in enrollment.
The study also found that people gaining employer-provided insurance was the biggest reason why the uninsured rate has dropped in recent months:

  • Of those who were previously uninsured but are now insured, 7.2 million gained [employer-sponsored insurance], 3.6 million are now covered by Medicaid, 1.4 million signed up through the marketplaces, and the remainder gained coverage through other sources.
If the 1.4 million figure is correct, that means that less than 0.5 percent of the U.S. population gained insurance through the Obamacare exchanges. Of course, it's certainly possible that the Obama administration's estimates are closer to the mark. But even if that's the case, it's highly unlikely that more than 1 percent of the U.S. population gained insurance--that is, they were previously uninsured but are now insured--because of the Obamacare exchanges.
Rand Study:
http://www.rand.org/content/dam/rand/pubs/research_reports/RR600/RR656/RAND_RR656.pdf
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kbp

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The study also found that people gaining employer-provided insurance was the biggest reason why the uninsured rate has dropped in recent months:

  • Of those who were previously uninsured but are now insured, 7.2 million gained [employer-sponsored insurance], 3.6 million are now covered by Medicaid, 1.4 million signed up through the marketplaces, and the remainder gained coverage through other sources.

Note I mentioned it looked like the end result will be less than 2M newly insured through the Exchange. Back in February it was looking like 1M would be the result.

This Employer Sponsored coverage goes both ways I suppose. The left can claim it resulted from the drive to insure the uninsured, while it's also an indication that coverage had nothing to do with Obamacare with the Employer Mandate having been delayed.

An issue that worries me is the left asking for the changes or what the Republican plan is. The newly insured thru Obamacare is less than 10 million if you count Exchange, Medicaid Expansion and Under 26, which is about 3% of the US population ...using the most optimistic head count.

The Republicans need to be careful to NOT address this issue as if citizens (and illegals!) have a Constitutional Right to coverage and introduce BS solutions that resemble an Obamacare Fix.

I so hope the courts handle this mess!


While I'm here, Sebelius just announced that the sign up is now 7.5 million.
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http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/plum-line/wp/2014/04/10/morning-plum-republicans-know-just-know-obamacare-will-destroy-country/

Morning Plum: Republicans know, just know, Obamacare will destroy country

As many have already pointed out, one of the most serious political problems Democrats face in 2014 is that Republicans are far more motivated by hatred of Obamacare than Dems are by their approval of the law. And some new polling just released by Pew Research captures this very nicely.

The poll’s basic finding: While a minority of Republicans say the law has personally impacted them in a negative way (39-52), Republicans overwhelmingly say the law is currently harming the country overall (69 percent) and say in even greater numbers (73 percent) that the law will harm the country overall. Republicans believe those things in far greater numbers than independents.

That perhaps helps explain the other key finding: Republicans are far more likely to say a candidate’s stance on the ACA will be “very important” to their midterm vote (64 percent) than either independents (45 percent) or Democrats (52 percent). The intensity is with the Obamacare-haters, which could help exacerbate the “midterm dropoff” problem Dems would already be facing.

Pew finds approval of the law among Americans is low (37-50), including among independents (34-53). But it still remains to be seen whether disapproval will translate into support for Republicans, and the unpopularity of the GOP repeal stance could, over time, mitigate the importance of generic approval-disapproval numbers.

The Pew poll’s finding of overwhelming GOP certainty that the law will hurt the country is generally mirrored in other polls. Kaiser recently found that only Republicans support repealing the law; and only Republicans want the debate over it to continue, while everyone else wants to move on.

The Obamacare Intensity Gap is a real problem for Dems. But the above helps explain why Republicans, too, face complications. They are constrained from advocating only for repeal, because the law’s provisions are kicking in for millions, and they are broadly popular. But they are also constrained from offering any meaningful alternative, because as Jonathan Cohn explains well, that would require supporting the tradeoffs necessary to accomplish what Obamacare accomplishes. Republicans either have to quietly back away from repeal or support ”replacing” it with something that looks a lot like Obamacare. Yet both are nonstarters because the base won’t allow for it to be anything other than an unremitting catastrophe.

Repeal alone is increasingly unsustainable. But replace isn’t an easy escape hatch. And backing off of repeal is heresy to the all-important base. Could Republicans win big in 2014 despite this dilemma? Sure, thanks to the map and the intensity on their side. But Republicans still face an Obamacare conundrum with no easy answer.

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kbp

OMG!!!!

Sebelius is citing the Rand study on Employer coverage growth as proof of Obamacare success, while she ignores there is not an Employer Mandate in place now AND Rand says her Exchange sign up numbers are pure BS!
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kbp

The article is certainly from a liberal source, but it shows the WH pattern we're witnessing in Obamacare.

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Recall Barry has decided to take away benefits and other measures to SAVE money on an entitlement that is going broke and then transfer those SAVINGS to pay for HIS entitlement program.

Now he has evidently decided he looks good not saving that money. I'm not sure how he can just reassign funds from one entitlement to another so easily!
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