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Healthcare Bill Part III; Obamacare
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kbp	Mar 29 2014, 12:10 PM Post #271
Posts: 52,053 Group: Tier1 Member #20 Joined: Apr 28, 2008	Quote: http://www.nytimes.com/2014/03/28/us/politics/deadline-near-health-signups-show-disparity.html?hp&_r=1 Deadline Near, Health Signups Show Disparity ....The White House said on Thursday that more than six million people have signed up for private plans, a significant political milestone for the Obama administration. Independent analysts estimate that an additional 3.5 million Americans are newly insured under Medicaid — figures the law’s backers hail as a success. ...newly insured...success First off, they pulled the 3.5 million out of their azzez, but lets go with them here for a minute... The CBO's #'s would indicate it costs about 300% more to get the uninsured covered through Obamacare Exchange than it costs to just put them on Medicaid Expansion (I need to recheck that, but am 100% certain it will cost less per person for Medicaid Expansion coverage this year). Moving on to that success... CBO said we had 55 million uninsured as of May, 2010 and the number has grown since (which should be added, but I do not have it!). Using their 3.5 million Medicaid Expansion and about 1 million from the Exchange, we'd have 4.5 million newly insured. 4.5 million gives us 8.2% of that 55 million. Obama has spent billions and billions to build an 8.2% success success = ...it could have been worse!



LTC8K6	Mar 29 2014, 04:27 PM Post #272
Assistant to The Devil Himself Posts: 28,896 Group: Tier1 Member #15 Joined: Apr 28, 2008	Maryland set to replace troubled health exchange with Connecticut’s system Quote: Maryland officials are set to replace the state’s online health-insurance exchange with technology from Connecticut’s insurance marketplace, according to two people familiar with the decision, an acknowledgment that a system that has cost at least $125.5 million is broken beyond repair. Quote: Maryland is not alone in having deep-seated problems with its health marketplace. Technical issues also have plagued Oregon, Minnesota and Hawaii. But Maryland will be the first to walk away from its site, a particular embarrassment for Lt. Gov. Anthony G. Brown (D), who was placed in charged of implementing health-care reform in Maryland by Gov. Martin O’Malley (D). http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/maryland-set-to-abandon-troubled-health-exchange-adopt-connecticuts-system/2014/03/28/ef6a3a3e-b6d2-11e3-8cc3-d4bf596577eb_story.html



chatham	Mar 30 2014, 08:26 AM Post #273
Posts: 28,174 Group: Tier1 Member #308 Joined: May 2, 2008	http://nation.foxnews.com/2014/03/29/maryland-expected-ditch-125m-obamacare-exchange Maryland Expected To Ditch $125M ObamaCare Exchange



Baldo	Mar 30 2014, 11:38 AM Post #274
Posts: 59,988 Group: Global Moderators Member #45 Joined: Apr 28, 2008	New Tact from Obama-care Senate supporter Senator: 'There's No Such Thing as Obamacare' Senator Angus King, an independent senator from Maine who caucuses with the Democrats, said this morning on Fox that "There's no such thing as Obamacare." "Two points if I may, sir," says Fox host Chris Wallace. "One, then why is Harry Reid saying he's not going to allow a vote on the fixes? And, two, speak directly and briefly, becase we're about to run out of time, to Senator Barrasso's comment that a lot of doctors, a lot of hospitals are being excluded by what Obamacare is offering." "Now, now that's a big -- There is no such thing as Obamacare. You can't sign up for Obamacare. You sign up for an Anthem policy or an Aetna policy or a WellPoint policy. It's private insurance," said King. http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/senator-theres-no-such-thing-obamacare_786226.html Deny it is Obama-care.. Blame it on the Insurance Companies. Nope that's not me!



kbp	Mar 31 2014, 08:39 AM Post #275
Posts: 52,053 Group: Tier1 Member #20 Joined: Apr 28, 2008	I saw that. They just want to fix it again and again...



Baldo	Mar 31 2014, 09:33 AM Post #276
Posts: 59,988 Group: Global Moderators Member #45 Joined: Apr 28, 2008	Bryan York, conservative American columnist for the Washington Examiner, Fox News contributor, said like others, health insurance premiums will rise quickly because, 1) The Insurance companies set the premiums too low to draw in consumers However the way it was set-up by the Obama Administration their losses will be covered by the govt through what we have discussed at length in the first years, but that does not explain fully where the money comes from 1) The Taxpayers 2) The buy-in that Insurance companies had to set aside into the corridors which came from the premiums of non subsidized policies Thus the rate payers of non subsidized policies will have their rates will rise faster Welcome to Bohicaland suckers & PSST Thanks for the Votes. Did you really think your premiums would go down?



kbp	Mar 31 2014, 10:27 AM Post #277
Posts: 52,053 Group: Tier1 Member #20 Joined: Apr 28, 2008	http://finance.yahoo.com/news/rural-residents-confront-higher-health-181835463.html Zip code high rating system now ...from Mason



kbp	Mar 31 2014, 10:34 AM Post #278
Posts: 52,053 Group: Tier1 Member #20 Joined: Apr 28, 2008	Baldo Mar 31 2014, 09:33 AM Bryan York, conservative American columnist for the Washington Examiner, Fox News contributor, said like others, health insurance premiums will rise quickly because, 1) The Insurance companies set the premiums too low to draw in consumers However the way it was set-up by the Obama Administration their losses will be covered by the govt through what we have discussed at length in the first years, but that does not explain fully where the money comes from 1) The Taxpayers 2) The buy-in that Insurance companies had to set aside into the corridors which came from the premiums of non subsidized policies Thus the rate payers of non subsidized policies will have their rates will rise faster Welcome to Bohicaland suckers & PSST Thanks for the Votes. Did you really think your premiums would go down? My understanding is we have a $63 or $68 fee per policy (maybe per person insured) which is part of the 3-R's pool of funds to cover the bailout before taxpayers kick in.



kbp	Mar 31 2014, 11:32 AM Post #279
Posts: 52,053 Group: Tier1 Member #20 Joined: Apr 28, 2008	http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2014/03/31/Obamacare-Website-Down-on-Final-Day-of-Enrollment OBAMACARE WEBSITE DOWN ON FINAL DAY OF ENROLLMENT Reads like the perfect excuse to extend enrollment, maybe a planned crisis. Edited by kbp, Mar 31 2014, 11:33 AM.



kbp	Mar 31 2014, 11:58 AM Post #280
Posts: 52,053 Group: Tier1 Member #20 Joined: Apr 28, 2008	http://www.salon.com/2014/03/28/scalia_co_can_still_destroy_obamacare_without_you_seeing_it_coming/ Scalia & co. can still destroy Obamacare — without you seeing it coming Here's the absurd case, currently in a federal appeals court, that could kill subsidies in 36 Healthcare.gov states This author argues that repeating the text of the law identifying that STATES must establish an exchange to get subsidies was merely "sloppiness" ...so sloppy were they that they did it NINE TIMES!!



kbp	Mar 31 2014, 12:15 PM Post #281
Posts: 52,053 Group: Tier1 Member #20 Joined: Apr 28, 2008	Refresher, as we keep hearing about all the House votes on the news: http://washingtonexaminer.com/no-house-republicans-havent-voted-50-times-to-repeal-obamacare/article/2545733 Vote to repeal only 6 times, though nobody challenges the incorrect statements in the media.



kbp	Mar 31 2014, 12:58 PM Post #282
Posts: 52,053 Group: Tier1 Member #20 Joined: Apr 28, 2008	Quote: http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/mar/25/female-supreme-court-justices-worry-about-corporat/ Supreme Court justices seek contraceptive compromise ..Conservative justices sought a way to let women obtain coverage without having employers pay for it. “Are there ways of accommodating the interests of the women who may want these particular drugs or devices without imposing a substantial burden on the employer who has the religious objection to it?” said Justice Samuel Anthony Alito Jr. When you step back to look at this, we have a law that allows administrative employees to write regulations that violate religious freedom, so it is the law. What a mess that's hard to believe any administration would choose to fight about. We have a fabricated right pushing on a Constitutional right.



Mason	Mar 31 2014, 02:21 PM Post #283
Parts unknown Posts: 29,637 Group: Tier1 Member #476 Joined: Jun 2, 2009	. Obama (Obamacare) says that if you have been Domestically Abused, you get more time to sign up for Obamacare. No provisions for victims of Knockout attacks, or plain old crime victims. .



kbp	Mar 31 2014, 02:43 PM Post #284
Posts: 52,053 Group: Tier1 Member #20 Joined: Apr 28, 2008	It would be easier just to list who does not get more time to sign up for Obamacare.



LTC8K6	Mar 31 2014, 03:13 PM Post #285
Assistant to The Devil Himself Posts: 28,896 Group: Tier1 Member #15 Joined: Apr 28, 2008	What about those of us who, having been dumped onto the market, signed up and paid in mid-November? Do we get the chump prize?



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