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| Baldo | Jul 5 2015, 11:24 AM Post #2086 |
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In other words it was a huge bait & switch promoted by Obama & the Democrats. "Looking out for your interests!" |
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| kbp | Jul 5 2015, 11:30 AM Post #2087 |
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I'm not seeing it as so much of a switch to single payer, just a new right that can't be repealed. The MAJOR cost factor problem is passed along for the next solution to be passed, then ALL are on-board owning it ....under Barry's legacy. |
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| Baldo | Jul 5 2015, 01:23 PM Post #2088 |
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bait & switch in that we were promised "savings" What we got was higher costs that we had to buy. That's worse that a store switching products for higher costs. At least you can walk away. In Obamaworld's store you have to pay a penalty for not buying. Thanks Supreme Jerk Roberts |
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| kbp | Jul 6 2015, 09:34 AM Post #2089 |
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I'm not aware of any authority that would allow such a move by the fed, but... we know that has nothing to do with how they operate! I did a little research... Insurance Commissioner Laura Cali, who is an actuary, was appointed under a Democrat Governor, so they can't blame the GOP for the increases! ...she required plans that hadn’t attempted to raise rates to do so anyway, including Kaiser Foundation Health Plan of the Northwest, by an average of 8.3% ... Chris Stenrud, a spokesman for the Kaiser plan, said the insurer had “confidence that we have priced for long-term stability. Nevertheless we respect the division’s decision and will adjust our 2016 rates accordingly.” Laura Cali knows the that the overall result of last year was $127 million more paid out than was collected in premiums. She also has the exact numbers for each insurer, including Kaiser. I suspect that the leftist Kaiser group was playing what is left of the 3-R's and had some wild growth projected into their enrollment for next year. Anyway, Barry is spending more taxpayer dollars, while spreading BS as hope and change. My guess is that Barry feels it would be better to redistribute the funds to cover losses after-the-fact (3-R's), hiding it from the up front and obvious place it should be, the premiums. The 3-R's redistribution through what is simply a bailout could hit a snag or two, but that's another problem to solve later! . |
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| kbp | Jul 6 2015, 10:39 AM Post #2090 |
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http://blogs.wsj.com/law/2015/07/02/house-gop-and-white-house-trade-shots-over-obamacare/ House GOP and White House Trade Shots Over Obamacare The Supreme Court showdown over the Affordable Care Act may be over, but the legal offensive against the law isn’t. Lawyers representing the Republican-controlled House of Representatives and the Obama administration took their best shots at each other’s arguments this week in their battle over Obamacare. The case, filed in federal court in Washington, D.C. last year, is about whether the executive branch overstepped its bounds in how it’s paying for and enforcing parts of the health law. Briefs filed Wednesday deal with the former, focusing on a component of the health law known as an “offset program,” which authorizes the government to pay back insurers for discounts they are required to offer low-income enrollees. The House Republicans argue the law does not authorize the White House to make such payments. The Obama administration argues it does. But for now, the sides are debating a threshold issue: whether House Republicans should be allowed to use the courts to settle the dispute. The president’s side argues that Congress has not suffered injury enough to justify seeking redress through the courts, calling it an “unprecedented suit” that improperly drags the courts into a squabble between Congress and the White House. In its brief, the administration warns that if the court allows the suit to go forward, the House “could sue the Executive over virtually any dispute over the meaning of federal law.” In a brief filed the same day, lawyers for House Republicans say they did, in fact, suffer injury: “Defendants’ Section 1402 Offset Program payments to insurers in the absence of any such affirmative vote by the House thus injures the House in the most direct and concrete way imaginable: by usurping and negating its most fundamental and defining constitutional function, the power of the purse.” The House Republicans say the question of whether the offset payments were authorized by Congress isn’t even up for debate. “There is no dispute that Congress did not appropriate funds,” the brief drafted by George Washington University law professor Jonathan Turley states. The brief says the White House “craves a bright-line no-standing rule that would free it of any scrutiny by the Judicial Branch whenever the Legislative Branch is the plaintiff.” It’s now up to U.S. District Judge Rosemary M. Collyer to decide whether Boehner v. Obama* should be tossed. Unlike the Obamacare case the Supreme Court just decided in the president’s favor, the House lawsuit isn’t so much about the wording of the law but about constitutional constraints on executive discretion. While the dispute is more abstract than in King v. Burwell, the stakes are big, says South Texas College of Law professor Josh Blackman, an Obamacare expert. He notes that lawyers representing Republicans are looking for more than a symbolic victory; they seek injunctive relief. The suit asks the court to order the Treasury Department from making any more offset payments under Section 1402 of the Affordable Care Act unless Congress rewrites the law. “The insurers would be put in a very difficult spot if they could not receive these payments,” Mr. Blackman told Law Blog. |
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| kbp | Jul 6 2015, 09:18 PM Post #2091 |
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https://www.insidehighered.com/news/2015/07/06/survey-finds-higher-expenses-colleges-and-employees-health-benefits Everyone Pays More Colleges are, on average, paying more for health benefits coverage for employees. And some of those colleges are passing some expenses on to employees. Those are among the key findings of a survey being released today by the College and University Professional Association for Human Resources. One in five colleges, the survey found, are passing on some of the higher costs associated with the Affordable Care Act in at least one of the following ways: Increased in-network deductibles. Increased out-of-pocket limits. Increased employees’ share of dependent coverage costs. Increased employees’ share of premium costs. And of course, while not referenced in the CUPA-HR report summary, many colleges responded to the Affordable Care Act by limiting the sections given to adjuncts, costing them significant loss of income. The most popular form of health plan offered by the 525 institutions surveyed (across all sectors) is a PPO, or preferred provider organization. Just under 90 percent of institutions offer a PPO option. High-deductible health plans -- offered by 46 percent of colleges -- are going up substantially in popularity with institutions. That option was offered by just 17 percent of institutions in 2009. The average annual total premium for all four plan types combined -- PPO, health maintenance organizations (HMO), point of service (POS) and high-deductible health plans -- was $6,597 for employee-only coverage and $18,087 for employee plus family coverage. Increases varied by plan type. For employee-only coverage, the largest increase was 4 percent. For employee and family plans, the largest increase was 6 percent. [...] |
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| Baldo | Jul 6 2015, 10:21 PM Post #2092 |
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AP Admits: Obamacare Is a Likely Factor in 'Increasing Part-Time Employment' Though the Associated Press is now basically admitting it, we all knew it. Obamacare's 30-hours-per-week definition of a "full-time employee" for employer health insurance coverage purposes has been responsible for one of the fundamentally negative changes in the American workforce — a noticeable move away from full-time to part-time employment. In a report with a current Saturday morning time stamp at the AP's national web site which originally went up on Friday, the wire service's Christopher Rugaber and Josh Boak covered the "new normal" in the job market. ...snipped http://newsbusters.org/blogs/tom-blumer/2015/07/06/ap-admits-obamacare-likely-factor-increasing-part-time-employment |
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| kbp | Jul 6 2015, 10:34 PM Post #2093 |
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No a whisper from Kaiser health news! |
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| Mason | Jul 6 2015, 10:56 PM Post #2094 |
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. Did you notice the stories about Premium increases only hit MSM after the Supreme Court blessing and approval Timing . |
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| Mason | Jul 6 2015, 11:17 PM Post #2095 |
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. We are to believe Fraud Roberts was wholly unaware. He painted a very rosy picture of Obamacare. http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/07/06/ouch-massive-obamacare-premium-increases-will-dominate-2016/ Every way Obama claimed the program would be paid for has failed miserably. Ask your Emergency Room Doc. . Edited by Mason, Jul 6 2015, 11:17 PM.
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| kbp | Jul 7 2015, 09:06 AM Post #2096 |
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That D@&% out-of-pocket. The irony here is O-care centers heavily on preventive care, which many that can't afford the out-of-pocket will do exactly the opposite ...wait until the ER is needed! |
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| kbp | Jul 7 2015, 09:40 AM Post #2097 |
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This probably is a study that would have similar results in any state. . |
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| Baldo | Jul 7 2015, 12:20 PM Post #2098 |
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Whopeee! The Govt is passing out money! Big Health Care Mergers Being Fueled by Obamacare Cash Supersized health care companies, flush on Obamacare money, are in a merger frenzy as health insurers, hospitals and drug companies bulk up to take advantage of government spending in Obamacare exchanges, state Medicaid programs and Medicare Advantage for the baby boomers, says The Los Angeles Times. The latest billion-dollar deal occurred last week when Medicaid insurer Centene Corp. bought Woodland Hills insurer Health Net Inc. for $6.8 billion. And more billion-dollar deals are predicted as big health insurers shop for companies that boost their government business. The Times quoted Gerald Kominski, director of the UCLA Center for Health Policy Research, saying, “The Affordable Care Act is really driving this merger mania. There are billions of dollars pouring into the system, and it's money to buy insurance. It's not entirely clear the savings get passed on to consumers.” This is the biggest expansion of insurance coverage in half a century, lifting stock prices and revenues across the health care industry, thanks to Obamacare. The Supreme Court ruling last week keeps, also helps big health care companies because it keeps the money spigot turned on by upholding the premium subsidies that millions of Americans now rely on to pay for health insurance. Over the next decade, the federal government is expected to spend $1.2 trillion on subsidies and other aspects of Obamacare. Since September 2013 nearly 17 million Americans have gained health insurance, and billions of dollars in uncompensated care has been wiped out for hospitals that are seeing more paying patients. But some regulators and consumer advocates are worried about increasing consolidation. They fear the nation's $3-trillion health care tab will keep growing uncontrollably, consuming government budgets and getting into the pocketbooks of everyday Americans. The Times quoted Glenn Melnick, a health care economist and professor at the University of Southern California, saying, “We cannot afford what we are paying now. Health care could eat up the federal budget.” http://news.heartland.org/newspaper-article/2015/07/06/big-health-care-mergers-being-fueled-obamacare-cash Unfortunately somebody has to pay for this |
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| kbp | Jul 7 2015, 12:29 PM Post #2099 |
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So much for that competition thingy the marketplace would produce. |
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| Baldo | Jul 7 2015, 12:43 PM Post #2100 |
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Opa! |
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