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Healthcare Bill Part III; Obamacare
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Topic Started: Mar 3 2014, 02:20 PM (48,585 Views)
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Apr 2 2015, 09:11 AM
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Oct. 1, 2015
States are allowed to shift children eligible for care under the Children's Health Insurance Program to health care plans sold on their exchanges, as long as HHS approves.
That could be interesting. That seems to have a strong potential for a fuzzy trail on how appropriated funds are spent. Of course the HHS has already took it upon themselves to shift funds to pay for matters in which no funds were appropriated (1 of the 3-R's, setup costs for federal exchanges...). They even went so far as to announce they were doing it!
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Apr 2 2015, 09:30 AM
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So what happens when no one takes Medicaid patients?
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The providers have the option of not taking the Medicaid patients. This lawsuit looked difficult because of that.
You'd soon end up with Medicaid patients having very few places to go for treatment. The providers will get sued, or Obamacare will be modified so that they have to take Medicaid patients. There is no way this administration is going to allow such a refusal, imo.
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"Network Adequacy" is the term I was trying to remember. Medicaid and Obamacare both have requirements of a large enough network of providers to provide care in a timely manner. That "adequacy" thingy was not the issue that I am aware of. The ruling was that providers could not sue. They are not the victims of any failure to provide "network adequacy," if such a condition exists. The complaint of the providers is they selected to serve Medicaid patients and wanted more money to do such. Doesn't the "adequacy" issue come about if the providers decide not to accept Medicaid patients under the payments terms and there is an inadequate number of providers that will serve those patients?
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Apr 2 2015, 10:08 AM
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http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/wp/2015/04/01/where-romneycare-fell-short-and-what-that-could-mean-for-obamacare/Where Romneycare fell short — and what that could mean for ObamacareThe landmark 2006 Massachusetts health-care law that inspired the federal overhaul didn't lead to a reduction in unnecessary and costly hospitalizations, and it didn't make the health-care system more fair for minority groups, according to a new study that may hold warnings for the Affordable Care Act. Massachusetts’ uninsured rate was cut by half to 6 percent in the years immediately following the health-care law signed by then-Gov. Mitt Romney. Blacks and Hispanics, who have a harder time accessing necessary medical care, experienced the largest gains in insurance coverage under the Massachusetts law, though they still were more likely to be uninsured than whites. The new study, published in the BMJ policy journal, examined the rates of hospitalizations for 12 medical conditions that health-care researchers say wouldn't normally require hospitalization if a patient has good access to primary care. These include hospitalizations for minor conditions like a urinary tract infection, or chronic conditions that would require repeat primary care visits over the course of a year. [...] Out-of-pocket costs for doctor visits and drugs may be preventing many of the newly insured from affording necessary primary care that would have otherwise kept them out of the hospital. [...] We heard so much about the health care cost reduction and life saving results Obamacare would provide through preventive care. That starts with someone providing primary care.
The out-of-pocket expense that is a result of providing policy regulations which could come in at a cost that makes the program look good makes the preventive care and its benefits an illusion.
Since more than 80% of those in Obamacare have incomes making them eligible for subsidized coverage, it's safe to bet that more than 80% of them can't afford the out-of-pocket expense. It is such an upside down system that I must presume they anticipated it would be considered a minor problem and the long-term plan was to fix it later with more FREE MONEY ....after all were happy Obamacare was here to stay. .
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Apr 3 2015, 06:19 AM
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http://www.wsj.com/articles/economist-jonathan-gruber-backs-u-s-on-health-law-subsidies-1427922813
Economist Jonathan Gruber Backs U.S. on Health-Law Subsidies MIT professor’s earlier comments about Affordable Care Act ignited political furor
By Stephanie Armour - April 1, 2015 5:13 p.m. ET Jonathan Gruber, the Massachusetts Institute of Technology economist whose comments about the U.S. health law earlier had ignited a political furor, says federal subsidies to lower insurance premiums were intended for all those who qualify, regardless of whether they get coverage through a state or federal exchange.
A suit before the Supreme court seeks to halt the use of tax credits to offset the cost of insurance premiums for residents in about three dozen states that don’t operate their own insurance exchanges and use the federal HealthCare.gov website instead. Challengers in the case argue the law allows the tax credits only for insurance buyers in states with their own exchanges—currently just 13 states and the District of Columbia.
The court is expected to rule on the matter in June.
But the Affordable Care Act meant to give subsidies to people even in states that opted not to set up their own insurance exchanges for people to obtain coverage, Mr. Gruber said on Wednesday.
Mr. Gruber spoke at a summit on the health law in New York City, where he sparred with Michael Cannon, director of health policy studies at the libertarian Cato Institute, which opposes the health care law.
A Supreme Court decision striking down subsidies, provided as tax credits, would lead to great upheaval and cause millions of Americans to lose health insurance, Mr. Gruber warned.
“In the states that are federal exchange states, you’ll see an enormous collapse of this [insurance] market,” said Mr. Gruber, adding that he doesn’t expect Congress to come up with a solution if subsidies are eliminated by the court in the affected states.
Mr. Gruber had been awarded government contracts in 2009 and 2010 for work on the health-care overhaul.
Mr. Cannon, on the other hand, backs the suit in the Supreme Court challenging the legality of subsidies provided to nearly 8 million Americans who signed up for coverage on the federal exchange. He said the law clearly specifies subsidies are available only in states that set up their own exchanges.
A Supreme Court decision that favors the plaintiffs would in effect free millions of Americans from having to pay a penalty when they file their federal tax returns if they go without health coverage, and would be a boost to employers who must bear the cost of providing health coverage to employees or risk penalties if they don’t, said Mr. Cannon. That is because there is an exemption from penalties for individuals who can’t afford to pay for a health-care plan.
The Obama administration has set up a special enrollment period for people to obtain health insurance if they would owe a penalty for not having coverage. That enrollment period runs from March 15 through end of April.
As of March 29, about 36,000 consumers have selected plans using the tax special enrollment period in states using the federal marketplace, the federal government said on Wednesday.
“There are 57 million people across the country being subjected to illegal taxes across the U.S.,” said Mr. Cannon. “What the [Internal Revenue Service] is engaged in is illegal taxation. It’s taxation without representation.”
The Obama administration has repeatedly said it doesn’t have a contingency plan if subsidies are struck down. Mr. Cannon said that stance is an effort by the administration to prejudice the court by giving the impression they will do nothing.
The summit marks the first high-profile appearance by Mr. Gruber since December when he apologized to Congress after a 2013 video surfaced in which he said the 2010 health law passed in part because its lack of transparency was a “huge political advantage.” He also referred to the “stupidity of the American voter.”
Republicans seized on his comments as evidence the Obama administration has engaged in a pattern of deception in implementing the law.
Mr. Gruber said Wednesday that the ACA is working well with no evidence of any major disruption to employer-provided insurance or labor markets.
“The ACA, it’s still early, but its early returns are very well,” he said.
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Apr 4 2015, 09:33 AM
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Video of the Gruber / Cannon debate mentioned in the previous post:
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jwiVAPSh3IEKeynote: HEALTH CARE REFORM: WORKING/NOT WORKING?Is health care reform finding its footing—or fatally flawed? MIT economist and Affordable Care Act (ACA) expert Jonathan Gruber and Cato Institute Director of Health Policy Studies Michael Cannon share opposing viewpoints on the current state of reform. It's just under 1 hour long and I have not yet had a chance to watch it. Judging from a few tweets I had read about it, they hit some on the Cadillac Tax.
That tax destroys the possibility of 'if you like your plan you can keep your plan.' The way it is set up will place a tax on most employer policies in the future. They planted some formula that would hit most policies if the cost of health care ever out paces inflation. The cost of an employees portion of premium + out-of-pocket expense increases + Cadillac Tax do not look promising ...unless downward redistribution from the middle-class is a plan you like!
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Apr 4 2015, 11:10 AM
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From Gruber/Cannon...
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http://ebn.benefitnews.com/news/health-care-reform/cadillac-tax-likely-to-become-2016-election-issue-2746004-1.htmlCadillac tax likely to become 2016 election issueEven five years after its enactment, the Affordable Care Act continues to draw strong opposition. And while it’s still the early days for the ACA, so far “there’s no evidence of any major disruption to the existing employer-sponsored insurance market,” said Jonathan Gruber, an MIT economist and proponent of the law, during a recent event hosted by Sun Life Financial and Bloomberg. He attributed widespread skepticism about the law to politics, saying “there’s a continued enormous lack of understanding about what the law does that I think is a direct result of the large level of [political] opposition to it.” And while avoiding the ACA’s Cadillac tax is front-of-mind for many benefit decision-makers, Gruber maintained the tax is only a mechanism to offset the existing discount already provided to health insurance benefits in the tax code “Health insurance is compensation and wages are compensation. They should be taxed the same. And they’re not,” said Gruber. The result is a system that is expensive, unfair and encourages excessive consumption, he believes. “If the U.S. taxed health insurance like wages, we would raise $250 billion more a year in revenues,” he said. Moreover, “the richer you are, the bigger tax break you get because your tax rate is higher.” And, finally, he said, such as system encourages excessive consumption because people are buying health insurance with after-tax dollars. But Michael Cannon, director of health policy studies at the Cato Institute, believes the still-on-the-horizon Cadillac tax is unlikely to remain in its current form. “A lot of employers are going to be hit by that tax, more and more over time, and more people are going to learn that promise of ‘if you like your health plan you can keep it’ was a false one,” he said. “The question is how will Congress respond? There are going to be a lot of people who want to repeal that tax on its own, but I think a lot of proponents of the ACA will say to employers and others who want to get rid of the tax: ‘We’ll help you do that, but you have to go along with part of a broader effort to reopen the ACA and repeal parts of it.’” The Cadillac tax, set to go into effect in 2018, is a 40% excise tax on health coverage that costs more than $10,200 for an individual or $27,500 for a family. About one-third of employers are currently at risk for triggering the tax in 2018 if they make no changes to their most costly plan, according to consulting firm Mercer’s National Survey of Employer-Sponsored Health Plans. [That "one-third" number is where it starts, but it increases tremendously over the following years.]But the Cadillac tax, said Gruber, is merely a way to equalize the way wages and health insurance are taxed. “It’s essentially offsetting the existing discount in the tax code,” he said, emphasizing it’s not a new net tax. “It’s offsetting a benefit they really shouldn’t be getting in the first place.” The intended goal of the Cadillac tax, said Gruber, “is for employers to make the most appropriate tradeoff between wages and health insurance for their employees. I think general economic theory and evidence suggests a number of employers are not doing that – they’re providing health insurance which is more generous and wages that are lower than what makes their employees the best off. ... the Cadillac tax moves them in the right direction of more appropriately having that trade-off – maybe a little bit more limited network can save a lot of costs and not really impede much the preferences of their employees.” The Internal Revenue Service and the Department of Treasury are seeking comments about the Cadillac tax, including what constitutes employer-sponsored coverage and different approaches for determining the cost of applicable coverage. Comments are due May 15. Gruber and Cannon agreed the Cadillac tax is likely to become an issue in the 2016 presidential election, but differed on the reasons why. [See my notes below on the reason why!]“It will have more of an impact on Democrat candidates. Republicans will just say ‘we hate taxes, we hate the ACA, we want to get rid of this tax,’” said Cannon, adding the Cadillac tax will affect many union plans and unions tend to support Democrats more often than they support Republicans. “There’s going to be a lot of pressure on Democrats from one of their key constituencies to do something to provide them relief from this tax.” But Gruber believes the Republicans will face their own challenges with the Cadillac tax. “A long-standing Republican position has been to get rid of the employer tax subsidy and put them on to individuals instead. The Cadillac tax is heading in that direction,” he said. “So the question is: How does the Republican Party resolve its opposition, in some sense, to the fundamental employer system with the fact that this is the biggest thing we’ve ever done to try to get rid of something they’ve wanted to get rid of?” [That is entirely false. The Rep's position is that what Gruber calls a "discount" should also be available to those paying for a plan thru the individual market in addition to those getting it thru the employer market. Gruber does a poor job of spinning the facts there.]
- ...a mechanism to offset the existing discount
...It’s offsetting a benefit they really shouldn’t be getting in the first place ...providing health insurance which is more generous and wages that are lower than what makes their employees the best off Gruber The man makes it obvious he feels any thing (insurance or wages) a citizen takes home is a benefit from the government that taxes us. He seems to be using the mindset of comparing tax exempt health care coverage to some idea of a single-payer system, while he does not come out directly to explain how he comes up with this comparison.
- ...Health insurance is compensation and wages are compensation. They should be taxed the same. And they’re not. ...If the U.S. taxed health insurance like wages, we would raise $250 billion more a year in revenues
Gruber Health insurance is a right in Gruber's mind ...one that is to be taxed!
- [untaxed health care] ...encourages excessive consumption ...a little bit more limited network can save a lot of costs
Gruber My first thought here is the increase in emergency room visits by those getting FREE MONEY coverage in programs that have a more limited network of providers available! I think we're seeing Gruber's single-payer mindset here.
Reason why it is an election issue...
When Obamacare was passed, the Cadillac Tax was mostly ignored because the 10 year window used to explain the costs was just plain f***** up and an intentional illusion. While the majority of the taxes would run 10 years (costs only running 6 years), the Cadillac Tax was a very progressive system that would not even start until 2018. That meant that the 10 year window only had 2 years on the progressive tax included, for a total of ONLY $9 billion. Being only 1% of what Barry said the entire program would cost, it seemed trivial, not worth an argument ...before the health care tax really kicks in!
In the most recent CBO estimate, it shows $87 billion over the 2016-2025 span, which only includes $16 billion for the initial 5 years.
By 2025 it jumps up to $21 billion in that year alone. Over the 10 years to follow we do not have a CBO chart yet, but starting with year one being 2025 and going from there, it's obvious we'll see more than a QUARTER TRILLION DOLLARS in that tax alone ....for the health care system Barry said would only cost us $900 billion the first 10 years!
CBO report referenced: http://1.usa.gov/1GlVuBe
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Apr 4 2015, 11:45 AM
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- [untaxed health care] ...encourages excessive consumption ...a little bit more limited network can save a lot of costs
Gruber With that "more limited network" thought in mind, here's a few notes on how to avoid being discouraged from participating in the "excessive consumption" trend...
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http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/2015/04/02/business/ap-us-on-the-money-patient-advocates-qa.htmlMedical Expenses: Finding Your Way With a Patient NavigatorA medical emergency leaves you with tens of thousands of dollars in unpaid hospital bills. Your health insurance company rejects coverage for an important medical test. An unexpected diagnosis requires you to find three new medical specialists. In today's health care system, consumers are increasingly on their own when these complex -- and often costly -- medical problems arise. Primary care doctors once helped patients manage such situations, but many physicians now have 15 minutes or less for each appointment. It's in this high-pressure environment that a new industry of patient advocates -- sometimes called patient navigators -- has emerged, offering to help guide patients through knotty health situations. Driven by an increasing number of baby boomers dealing with chronic medical problems, the field has mainly taken shape in the last 5 to 10 years, according to Professor Theresa Cronan of San Diego State University. "People with chronic conditions use the health care system more. But the health care system has become so complex that it's really hard for people to navigate," said Cronan, who has studied the health advocacy industry. Here are some questions and answers about these businesses and the services they offer: WHAT DO PATIENT ADVOCATES DO? Patient advocates are hired to help solve health care problems or help patients get the best care possible. Advocates can work for companies with hundreds of employees or operate as stand-alone consultants for a handful of clients. Some of the most common tasks health advocates work on include: — Negotiating discounts and payment plans for large medical bills; — Managing and filing insurance paperwork, especially appeals where companies deny coverage for expensive procedures or equipment; — Helping patients find and schedule appointments with medical experts who specialize in rare or hard-to-treat diseases. HOW CAN THESE BUSINESSES POTENTIALLY SAVE ME MONEY? Many patient advocates highlight their ability to help reduce medical bills or cut through insurance red tape. Health advocates can review patient records to spot billing errors that drive up costs. They can also coordinate care between a number of physicians, usually for patients with complex conditions, avoiding repeat billings and insurance payments. In other cases, advocates will help patients find the best price for an expensive test or procedures. Prices for common tests, such as medical scans, can vary by hundreds or thousands of dollars, even among hospitals that are only a few miles apart, as demonstrated by payment records released by the government's Medicare program. With many patients in high-deductible insurance plans that require them to pay substantial out of pocket costs before coverage kicks in, the difference between a $300 MRI scan or a $1,300 MRI scan can be significant. HOW MUCH DO THESE SERVICES COST? Patient advocates typically aren't covered by insurance, so customers should expect to pay out of pocket. Many charge an hourly rate, ranging from $50 to $250 depending on the nature of the work, their location and background. Advocates charging the highest fees usually have a medical degree. Other services may use alternative fee structures. For instance, the medical bill saver service offered by Health Advocate of Plymouth Meeting, Pennsylvania negotiates uncovered medical or dental bills of $400 or more at no upfront cost to the customer. Instead, the company takes a 25 percent cut of the recouped savings. So if the company negotiated a $10,000 medical bill down to $5,000 the company would earn a $1,250 fee. Health Advocate sells access to its bill saver service and other offerings through an annual membership fee of $25.95. About 10,000 companies also offer Health Advocate's services as a benefit to their employees. Continue reading the main story Continue reading the main story Continue reading the main story WHAT QUALIFICATIONS DO PATIENT ADVOCATES NEED TO HAVE? Currently there are no professional credentials required to be a patient advocate, so be careful about choosing a service. Several universities offer specialized courses and degrees in patient advocacy, including Sarah Lawrence College, the University of Miami and the University of Wisconsin. Such programs often combine training in medicine, health policy, economics and law. Other health advocates have backgrounds in nursing, social work, medicine and the insurance industry. Before hiring a health advocate be sure to ask for references and information on training and experience. Customers should also receive a written contract specifying the services to be delivered and the fees. "If you're going to get a health care advocate you're probably feeling vulnerable already, so you want to make sure you look very carefully at the organization that is going to provide these services," Cronan said. HOW CAN I FIND A PATIENT ADVOCATE? Academic programs like University of Wisconsin's Center for Patient Partnerships can provide contact information for graduates in the field. There are also several professional groups that offer online search tools for finding patient advocates, including: — National Association of Healthcare Advocacy, which requires members to sign a code of ethics: http://www.nahac.com— Alliance of Professional Health Advocates, which requires participants to have professional liability insurance: http://www.advoconnection.com/
It ends with a means of contact for a Group Navigator to find you a Patient Navigator ...the next right we'll see mentioned in Congress!
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Apr 6 2015, 10:07 AM
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http://www.politico.com/story/2015/04/obamacare-health-care-cadillac-tax-116659.html'Cadillac tax' the next big Obamacare battle
Experts say a majority of employers could eventually face the tax on health care benefits[...] “Capping the tax benefit for employer-sponsored health insurance, I think, is a great idea,” said Len Burman, head of the nonpartisan Tax Policy Center. “ Providing an open-ended subsidy for health insurance, which encourages people to get plans that do less to restrain spending, contributes to rising health care costs. Most economists who’ve looked at health care spending have concluded that.” The tax could eventually hit all health plans, “although you probably wouldn’t get policymakers to admit to that,” Burman siad. He added he doubts Congress will allow that to happen, saying lawmakers will come under substantial pressure to ease the tax. It’s a big reason why Congress’ independent budget scorekeepers have said Obamacare won’t add to the deficit, and why the tax will be tough to repeal. The levy, which is projected to generate $87 billion over a decade, ramps up slowly, but is estimated to eventually produce so much money that it alone will cover the cost of providing insurance subsidies through the program’s exchanges. “This provision is one of several in the ACA designed to promote fiscal responsibility and slow the growth of health care costs,” said White House spokeswoman Jessica Santillo. [...] That WH spokeswoman is explaining how they hope to use AVOIDANCE of a portion of the new tax as a means to subsidize (the liberal's words!) a healthier lifestyle and/or just simply not seeking health care. I wonder what kind of "open-ended subsidy for health insurance" that WH spokeswoman enjoys???
anyway...
I've touched on the $87 billion issue before, noting we do not have any estimates that tell us what to expect during years after the next 10. I went back to the latest CBO report and entered the numbers in Excel. The initial 5 years of the next decade only have 3 with the new tax present and the percentage of increase each year then runs from 0 to 100%. I went with the last 5 years to see if the is an average worth using.
The last 5 years had increases running from 21.4 to 28.6%, showing 123% over 5 years for an average very close to 25% per year. So I just used 25% increases for each year over the next decade, 2026-2035, to see where it took us.
| YEAR | TAX INCREASE | PERCENTAGE | | 2026 | $26 BILLION | 25.0% | | 2027 | $33 BILLION | 25.0% | | 2028 | $41 BILLION | 25.0% | | 2029 | $51 BILLION | 25.0% | | 2030 | $64 BILLION | 25.0% | | 2031 | $80 BILLION | 25.0% | | 2032 | $100 BILLION | 25.0% | | 2033 | $125 BILLION | 25.0% | | 2034 | $156 BILLION | 25.0% | | 2035 | $196 BILLION | 25.0% | | TOTAL | $873 BILLION | |
Recall Barry told us of the $900 billion Obamacare program in 2010. Of that cost, only $9 billion of the Cadillac Tax was included, for it only hit the final 2 years of his BS estimate CBO provided him.
After we get to 2026, the estimated Cadillac Tax looks likely to be as big as the entire Obamacare budget Barry had promoted.
It could be an $873 BILLION tax in the $900 billion program he told us about.
They'll probably have to enact a new tax to pay for the Cadillac Tax on the health care benefits government employees receive! .
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Apr 8 2015, 12:07 AM
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Workers Sent to Shop for Health Plans as Employers Quit Benefits
A growing number of Americans are no longer getting health insurance directly from work as companies quit administering benefits, sending about 40 million people to shop for their own coverage by 2018, a new study estimates.
Instead of picking a companywide health plan, employers are increasingly giving workers financial support to choose their own from a menu of options. For 2015, 6 million workers selected coverage from markets run by private benefits administrators, according to a study from Accenture Plc. That’s double the previous year, when employees of Walgreens Boots Alliance Inc., Sears Holdings Corp. and Darden Restaurants Inc. all had to go shop on their own. By 2018, a quarter of employees who get insurance through work will pick a plan through the private markets, according to Accenture.
“It’s clearly the way health care is heading,” said Jean Moore, a managing director at Towers Watson & Co., which runs online benefits markets for employers. The change represents a fundamental shift in the employer-employee relationship, and also mirrors trends in Obamacare, where the U.S. gives people tax credits to help buy insurance on government markets.
It may also put more of the financial burden of health care on workers, though it can save employers money and may bolster earnings at benefits consultants like Towers Watson and Aon Plc. Towers Watson gets about 10 percent of its sales by operating the online portals for its clients, and exchange revenue grew the fastest among the company’s major business lines in the final three months of last year...snipped
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2015-04-07/mounting-health-costs-lead-to-growth-spurt-for-private-exchanges
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Apr 8 2015, 05:51 AM
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Instead of picking a companywide health plan, employers are increasingly giving workers financial support to choose their own from a menu of options.
I think it's pretty clear that it is not legal under PPACA to have such an arrangement.
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/05/26/us/irs-bars-employers-from-dumping-workers-into-health-exchanges.html?_r=1
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Q1: My employer offers employees cash to reimburse the purchase of an individual market policy. Does this arrangement comply with the market reforms?
No. If the employer uses an arrangement that provides cash reimbursement for the purchase of an individual market policy, the employer's payment arrangement is part of a plan, fund, or other arrangement established or maintained for the purpose of providing medical care to employees, without regard to whether the employer treats the money as pre-tax or post-tax to the employee. Therefore, the arrangement is group health plan coverage within the meaning of Code section 9832(a), Employee Retirement Income Security Act (ERISA) section 733(a) and PHS Act section 2791(a), and is subject to the market reform provisions of the Affordable Care Act applicable to group health plans. Such employer health care arrangements cannot be integrated with individual market policies to satisfy the market reforms and, therefore, will violate PHS Act sections 2711 and 2713, among other provisions, which can trigger penalties such as excise taxes under section 4980D of the Code. Under the Departments' prior published guidance, the cash arrangement fails to comply with the market reforms because the cash payment cannot be integrated with an individual market policy.(6)
http://www.dol.gov/ebsa/faqs/faq-aca22.html
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I do not have time to dig deeper now, but I think NYT article and Q/A posted are about entirely different exchanges/individual markets than those addressed in Baldo's post.
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http://www.politico.com/story/2015/04/obamacare-group-slashes-staff-116790.htmlObamacare group slashes staff Enroll America, founded by White House allies to promote health law, loses funding.The main national organization promoting Obamacare enrollment is cutting 100 jobs amid a major retrenchment as key funders turn to other health care priorities. It’s the beginning of the end for Enroll America, which was set up by liberal advocates of the Affordable Care Act to run a sophisticated, political-style campaign to persuade Americans to get covered. The group, led by veterans of President Barack Obama’s campaigns and administration, was never intended to last forever, but a precipitous drop in funding forced it to scale back to half of its peak size after only two seasons of Obamacare sign-up. That’s a more rapid throttling back than some of the people associated with Enroll had envisioned at the start. The move comes as even some strong advocates of the law have lowered their coverage expectations for the first few years of the law, partly because of the resistance in many GOP-led states. With Enroll America taking a less prominent role, local community groups, health insurers, hospitals and clinics will have to pick up some of the outreach and marketing work. [...] Chief among the financial backers who are moving on is the Robert Wood Johnson Foundation, a major health care philanthropy that has provided nearly half of Enroll’s funding to date — $13 million in 2013 and $10 million last year. Pollack and other sources said Enroll knew in advance that RWJF was ending funding this year. Pollack said there has been some recent talk about the possibility of continuing some funding, although on a “much-diminished” basis [...] “It is increasingly important to support consumers by helping to make sure their coverage is of high value and makes a real contribution to their health and financial security,” Kathy Hempstead, head of coverage programs at RWJF, said in an email. She said no final decision had been made on any potential 2015 grants for Enroll. [...] “It is increasingly important to support consumers by helping to make sure their coverage is ...a real contribution to their ...financial security,” Kathy Hempstead - head of coverage programs at RWJF
In initial enrollment for coverage through the marketplace exchanges in 2013 they were bragging about the success of having 8 million. By the time 2014 enrollment came around, they revised the goal downward from the previous revision that had also lowered the bar, so "success" was reaching 11.4 million (those numbers were both "selected a plan," not paid for a plan, but the comparison is balanced). [Recall after they had deducted the dental plan enrollees, the 8 million had dropped to 6.7 or so, and they still will not reveal the actual head count of dropouts.]
2013 = 8 million 2014 = 11.4 million Gain = 3.4 million
The rate of gain is not all that strong using those numbers, but...
They actually had more NEW enrollees than that 3.4 million (good news for Ocare?). But that fact also tells us they had more dropouts than they wish to admit.
Back to big money RWJF closing off the pocketbook, the fund that wants more "financial security" for the FREE MNEY eligible consumers. Could they be detecting a glitch from the out-of-pocket expense setup in the system?
I just find it hard to imagine a large percentage of those eligible for subsidies sticking with the coverage after they get hit with a $2,000.00 minimum out-of-pocket. .
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Apr 9 2015, 02:45 PM
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http://talkingpointsmemo.com/dc/obama-supreme-court-obamacareObama To SCOTUS: Erasing Obamacare Subsidies Would Be 'A Bad Decision'President Barack Obama warned the Supreme Court in an interview Wednesday that a ruling to invalidate Obamacare subsidies would be "a bad decision" and result in "millions of people losing their health insurance." Asked on CNN if he had a fallback plan, Obama said he expects the justices to decree that the Affordable Care Act statute allows health insurance tax credits in states that use the federal exchange. "If you read the statute, it's pretty straightforward and it's pretty clear. So I'm not anticipating that the Supreme Court would make such a bad decision," he said. "If the Supreme Court made a ruling that said the folks who have federal exchanges don't get the tax credits what you'd end up seeing is millions of people losing their health insurance. And the truth is that there aren't that many options available if in fact they don't have tax credits, they can't afford to get the health insurance that's being provided out there." [...]
- "If you read the statute, it's pretty straightforward and it's pretty clear."
Barry
The administrations argument is they find the law to be ambiguous! .
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Apr 11 2015, 09:52 AM
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http://www.kitsapsun.com/news/state/federal-marketplace-more-adept-than-states-at-enrolling-customers-study-finds_67528168Federal Marketplace More Adept Than States At Enrolling Customers, Study FindsBy: Michelle Andrews, Kaiser Health News Despite its rocky launch, the federal health insurance exchange did better than the exchanges run by individual states at both enrolling new people in Obamacare and hanging onto previous enrollees during the 2015 open enrollment period that ended in February, according to a recent analysis. Enrollment for 2015 on the federal exchange increased by 61 percent over 2014, to 8.8 million. On the state-based exchanges, enrollment increased 12 percent, to 2.8 million, according to the analysis by the consulting firm Avalere Health. In addition, the federal exchange re-enrolled 78 percent of its enrollees from the previous year, while the state-based exchanges re-enrolled 69 percent.
Several factors may have contributed to the disparities in enrollment and retention, says Elizabeth Carpenter, a director in the health reform practice at Avalere, which conducted the analysis based on federal enrollment data released in March for the federal and state-based exchanges. The many website and other glitches that bedeviled the 2014 launch of healthcare.gov, the federal portal for Obamacare coverage in about three dozen states, may have contributed to its stronger enrollment showing this year, Carpenter says. "Some folks have pointed to the technological problems with healthcare.gov, saying that there may have been people who didn't get through the enrollment process last year" because they couldn't get the website to work, Carpenter says. In 2015, instead of error messages and frozen screens, healthcare.gov functioned smoothly for the most part, even during periods of heavy use. It may also be that the federal exchange covers more states that have a larger proportion of lower income people, Carpenter says. More than 85 percent of people who bought health insurance on the state and federal marketplaces were eligible for premium tax credits that were available to people with incomes up to 400 percent of the federal poverty level ($46,680 for an individual). As for retention differences, it's possible that more people over-reported their income on state-based exchanges for 2014 coverage and were subsequently shifted to the Medicaid program this year. Twenty-eight states have expanded Medicaid to adults with incomes up to 138 percent of the federal poverty level (about $16,100). In those states, if someone applies for a marketplace plan, the exchange will move them into Medicaid if their income falls below that threshold. Such shifting could make it appear that some states had lost enrollees when instead they just moved to Medicaid. Avalere didn't incorporate Medicaid eligibility shifts into its analysis. But it's not clear why state-based exchanges would experience such shifts to a greater degree than states where the exchange is run by the federal government. The takeaway? "The numbers underscore that significant growth year over year is not necessarily a given," Carpenter says. "The question for all exchanges is how to continue to grow over time and attract healthier enrollees." As more enrollees learn about what they must pay for when they try to use their policies and the tax returns deduct some of the FREE MONEY tax credit half the enrollees thought they'd get, I suspect dropouts will be a bigger problem than it was this year. As more people enroll and/or use the coverage, then more people will learn how it works ...or maybe I should say they'll learn more about how it DOESN'T work.
There's more "takeaway" to it than the need to "attract healthier enrollees" to redistribute pool costs as the 3-R's expires. Of course I have to agree with Elizabeth Carpenter, a director in the health reform practice at Avalere; the system works better if more of the lower income, "healthier" young population enrolls and never learns about the out-of-pocket expense thingy. .
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