| The Episopal Church is a leftwing political pimp operation; Letter to parishoners in NH | |
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| Joan Foster | Oct 25 2012, 11:05 AM Post #1 |
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FYI...my sister who has been a lifelong member now is finally resigning from her Church. Mr F ( former Senior Warden, Faith Alive Chair, Lay Reader) and I (President of ECW, Youth Group Chair and Sunday School Teacher) went over the Leftist wall they were erecting years ago. So glad my sister and family are now pulling THEIR time and tithe. Pastoral Letter from the Bishops of New Hampshire At the core of our faith is the belief that in Jesus Christ, we are drawn into the heart of God the Holy Trinity. Ours is a God of the relationship among three divine Persons: the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit. The bond among these Three make them One, and their relationship is characterized by a love that is mutual, sacrificial, just, and inexhaustible. As baptized members of the Risen Body of Christ, each of us is called not only to mirror the love that flows within the Trinity. We are meant to participate in it, insofar as it is possible, until the God’s Dominion is established on earth as it is in heaven. Early Church theologians used a surprising term when they spoke of our sharing in the life of the Trinity. They spoke of economics, from the Greek oikos. In contrast to our current usage of the word meaning the distribution of limited resources, to the early Christians the Economy of God referred to the management and arrangement of a household. The salvation of the world was envisioned as God welcoming and including all humankind into God’s household to share in the plenitude of God’s table. God the Source and God the Spirit behold each of us with the same infinite love that they regard the Beloved Christ. This image of our sharing in God’s life has political implications. By God’s grace, we have been given the privilege and the right to vote and thus express how we can mirror the love of God, the Trinity, into this fallen and divided world. As your bishops, we believe the disparities in wealth, health care, and education are clear indications of how far our financial policies have distorted the image of the Triune God in whom we are created. The suffering of the increasing numbers of the poor among us, the vanishing of a middle class that sustains a healthy society, and the fear that characterizes much of the rhetoric of the most wealthy in our land all speak to how far our society has fallen from the vision of God’s economy of abundance. Even Jesus was willing to pay taxes, knowing that God had ways of supplying him with everything his life and ministry needed, and more. (See Mark 12:17 and Matthew 17:24,) We call on the members of our diocese to carry in the voting booths on November 6 that same vision of a Holy Economy, the household where all its dwellers enjoy God’s justice, equality, and peace in both sufficient and ample measure. We ask the Church’s members to take to heart that the persons in God’s economy recognize that their wealth depends on the other’s health, labor and well-being, and a profound and vibrant respect for God’s Creation. Edited by Joan Foster, Oct 25 2012, 11:06 AM.
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| Joan Foster | Oct 25 2012, 11:07 AM Post #2 |
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What a PIG outfit. I wish we could get back the money we gave them when they were masquerading as a religious denomination. |
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| Deleted User | Oct 25 2012, 11:45 AM Post #3 |
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Their theology has gone bad. No wonder their sociology now is warped. |
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| Joan Foster | Oct 25 2012, 11:45 AM Post #4 |
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Very well put, dsl. |
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| Baldo | Oct 25 2012, 11:51 AM Post #5 |
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Holy Economy Let's go live to Galilee Matthew 23:1-39 ESV Then Jesus said to the crowds and to his disciples, “The scribes and the Pharisees sit on Moses' seat, so practice and observe whatever they tell you—but not what they do. For they preach, but do not practice. They tie up heavy burdens, hard to bear, and lay them on people's shoulders, but they themselves are not willing to move them with their finger. They do all their deeds to be seen by others. For they make their phylacteries broad and their fringes long, ... |
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| Duke parent 2004 | Oct 25 2012, 12:03 PM Post #6 |
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The opening paragraphs of the Wikipedia article on "The Protestant Ethic and the Spirit of Capitalism": The Protestant Ethic and the Spirit of Capitalism is a book written by Max Weber, a German sociologist, economist, and politician. Begun as a series of essays, the original German text was composed in 1904 and 1905, and was translated into English for the first time by Talcott Parsons in 1930. It is considered a founding text in economic sociology and sociology in general. In the book, Weber wrote that capitalism in northern Europe evolved when the Protestant (particularly Calvinist) ethic influenced large numbers of people to engage in work in the secular world, developing their own enterprises and engaging in trade and the accumulation of wealth for investment. In other words, the Protestant work ethic was an important force behind the unplanned and uncoordinated mass action that influenced the development of capitalism. This idea is also known as the "Protestant Ethic thesis." In 1998 the International Sociological Association listed this work as the fourth most important sociological book of the 20th century. The Episcopal bishops of New Hampshire must be getting their sociology and economics these days from old episodes of the "Phil Donahue Show." |
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| chatham | Oct 25 2012, 01:01 PM Post #7 |
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I dont remember Jesus paying taxes. He really did not have to work since he could make anything he needed. In fact, he made so much one day he had to feed the whole crowd that showed up the hear what he had to say. And then there was enough left over for the homeless mission. Jesus set an example to follow but he did not cure society as people use his name for. And I dont recall Jesus flipping a beggar a drachma to help him out/ But I do remember him taking the beggars hand and telling him how to find a job. I dont think jesus told the rich people they had to go broke helping the poor And back at that time I believe the poor were the lepers, the lame, the blind and those who could not do for themselves and were shunned by society. He was not talking about the lazy and those wanting Jesus message drums (cell phones for those in detroit) or Jesus paying off their cave mortgage. In fact, in his speech about the "blessed are the..." he was telling people how to get up and off their azzes and do some good for themselves and others. Jesus would be rolling over in his grave, if he had one, with what these people are calling religion now. I do agree people who can afford do not do what they should to help. That is their choice in this world and for a reason to get into the next world.... or not. rethink the move FOWARD MOO |
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| Mason | Oct 25 2012, 02:31 PM Post #8 |
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. Visit someone that you've been paying their way for two years. Then Visit someone who you taught to be self-sufficient and/or helped them get a job. Which person is better off? Which is happier? Which visit is more pleasant? . |
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| Deleted User | Oct 25 2012, 03:01 PM Post #9 |
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The only sin left in Episcopalian theology is the one against not pulling the lever for the purveyors of social justice. Outside of that, you can pretty much live as you wish. |
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| Concerned | Oct 25 2012, 06:16 PM Post #10 |
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Joan, I'd be tempted to write them back to thank them for helping me to decide to vote Republican! |
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| Joan Foster | Oct 25 2012, 06:40 PM Post #11 |
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My sister did compose quite a zinger....very much along those lines.
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| Deleted User | Oct 25 2012, 09:10 PM Post #12 |
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In fact the Gospels do record an instance when Jesus told his disciples to go get a coin ( from the fish's mouth!!!) so they could pay their taxes. He was setting them up for the "Render unto Caesar..." message of living under government authority as well as divine authority. I don't mind legitimate taxes. I mind taxes shoved into our society by those who totally ignore the will of the elected representatives and the people they represent. And we are a FAR piece from legitimate government today. As far as ecclesiastical authority, I'm okay with that too... but I don't really see much genuine authority. I just see the PC clap trap pablum being oozed from most pulpits, to placate the do-gooders who are quite certain that "the real Jesus" would NEVER let anybody suffer. So much for the blood of the martyrs !!! I spent 10 good years in the Episcopal Church. Appreciated the rounding out of my Baptist upbringing before I continued to move on to other "rounding outs". But that was a long time ago. My youngest daughter has become enamoured of the Episcopal Church. It has all the cultural trappings she loves... the art, the quality music, the liturgy, and the PC message. Her ( deceased) pastor father must be turning over iin his grave!!! |
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