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Presidential Debate - 10/16/12
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Volokh: Was Questioner member of Code Pink?

One explicitly feminist question was asked by undecided voter Catherine Fenton:

And it’s Katherine Fenton, who has a question for you.
QUESTION: In what new ways to [do] you intend to rectify the inequalities in the workplace, specifically regarding females making only 72 percent of what their male counterparts earn?

By a strange coincidence, there happens to be a Catherine Fenton who in 2008 identified herself as the Media Coordinator of CodePink Long Island.

(read more at the link. . . .)
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O:...We're actually drilling more on public lands than in the previous administration and my -- the previous president was an oil man.


Duh! If you open one more well on land previously leased, that is "drilling more."


O: So what I've tried to do is be consistent. With respect to something like coal, we made the largest investment in clean coal technology, to make sure that even as we're producing more coal, we're producing it cleaner and smarter

Except coal production is down ...or does "more" mean we did not stop completely????


O: ...we made the largest investment in clean coal technology, to make sure that even as we're producing more coal, we're producing it cleaner and smarter. Same thing with oil, same thing with natural gas. And the proof is our oil imports are down to the lowest levels in 20 years. Oil production is up, natural gas production is up, and, most importantly, we're also starting to build cars that are more efficient.

I don't know where to start here! Maybe "we" is Barry and all the drilling companies that were drilling before he was elected.






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Oct 16 2012, 11:24 PM
Volokh: Was Questioner member of Code Pink?

One explicitly feminist question was asked by undecided voter Catherine Fenton:

And it’s Katherine Fenton, who has a question for you.
QUESTION: In what new ways to [do] you intend to rectify the inequalities in the workplace, specifically regarding females making only 72 percent of what their male counterparts earn?

By a strange coincidence, there happens to be a Catherine Fenton who in 2008 identified herself as the Media Coordinator of CodePink Long Island.

(read more at the link. . . .)
And they do not even care if they're caught planting people!


ADD: Probably not the same female, too young.

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Oct 16 2012, 11:27 PM
O:...We're actually drilling more on public lands than in the previous administration and my -- the previous president was an oil man.


Duh! If you open one more well on land previously leased, that is "drilling more."


O: So what I've tried to do is be consistent. With respect to something like coal, we made the largest investment in clean coal technology, to make sure that even as we're producing more coal, we're producing it cleaner and smarter

Except coal production is down ...or does "more" mean we did not stop completely????


O: ...we made the largest investment in clean coal technology, to make sure that even as we're producing more coal, we're producing it cleaner and smarter. Same thing with oil, same thing with natural gas. And the proof is our oil imports are down to the lowest levels in 20 years. Oil production is up, natural gas production is up, and, most importantly, we're also starting to build cars that are more efficient.

I don't know where to start here! Maybe "we" is Barry and all the drilling companies that were drilling before he was elected.






http://www.eia.gov/dnav/pet/hist/LeafHandler.ashx?n=PET&s=MTTIMUS1&f=M
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ROMNEY: But that's not what you've done in the last four years. That's the problem. In the last four years, you cut permits and licenses on federal land and federal waters in half.

OBAMA: Not true, Governor Romney.

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OBAMA: I'm happy to answer the question.

ROMNEY: All right. And it is --

OBAMA: Here's what happened. You had a whole bunch of oil companies who had leases on public lands that they weren't using. So what we said was you can't just sit on this for 10, 20, 30 years, decide when you want to drill, when you want to produce, when it's most profitable for you. These are public lands. So if you want to drill on public lands, you use it or you lose it.

ROMNEY: OK, (inaudible) --

OBAMA: And so what we did was take away those leases. And we are now reletting them so that we can actually make a profit.



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Maybe that's her on the right and she had the young woman ask the Q instead?

Edited by nyesq83, Oct 16 2012, 11:40 PM.
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Oct 16 2012, 11:36 PM
kbp
Oct 16 2012, 11:27 PM
O:...We're actually drilling more on public lands than in the previous administration and my -- the previous president was an oil man.


Duh! If you open one more well on land previously leased, that is "drilling more."


O: So what I've tried to do is be consistent. With respect to something like coal, we made the largest investment in clean coal technology, to make sure that even as we're producing more coal, we're producing it cleaner and smarter

Except coal production is down ...or does "more" mean we did not stop completely????


O: ...we made the largest investment in clean coal technology, to make sure that even as we're producing more coal, we're producing it cleaner and smarter. Same thing with oil, same thing with natural gas. And the proof is our oil imports are down to the lowest levels in 20 years. Oil production is up, natural gas production is up, and, most importantly, we're also starting to build cars that are more efficient.

I don't know where to start here! Maybe "we" is Barry and all the drilling companies that were drilling before he was elected.






http://www.eia.gov/dnav/pet/hist/LeafHandler.ashx?n=PET&s=MTTIMUS1&f=M
We need Candy to fact check the EIA data!
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Does Barry understand holding a lease until it's profitable to drill? Or necessary to drill?

Does he understand that holding leases is how oil exploration works?
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Oct 16 2012, 11:37 PM
Maybe that's her on the right and she had the young woman ask the Q instead?
probably not, but good thought there!

The code pink person is said to be in her 40's, per twitter. . . .haven't seen a picture. But likely two different Fentons.


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How could anyone listen to that debate and not come away understanding Obama is hostile towards Oil companies?

He seeths when he talks about them.

Does anyone believe "Oil Man" is a complimentary term in the context he used it?


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kbp
Oct 16 2012, 11:38 PM
LTC8K6
Oct 16 2012, 11:36 PM
kbp
Oct 16 2012, 11:27 PM
O:...We're actually drilling more on public lands than in the previous administration and my -- the previous president was an oil man.


Duh! If you open one more well on land previously leased, that is "drilling more."


O: So what I've tried to do is be consistent. With respect to something like coal, we made the largest investment in clean coal technology, to make sure that even as we're producing more coal, we're producing it cleaner and smarter

Except coal production is down ...or does "more" mean we did not stop completely????


O: ...we made the largest investment in clean coal technology, to make sure that even as we're producing more coal, we're producing it cleaner and smarter. Same thing with oil, same thing with natural gas. And the proof is our oil imports are down to the lowest levels in 20 years. Oil production is up, natural gas production is up, and, most importantly, we're also starting to build cars that are more efficient.

I don't know where to start here! Maybe "we" is Barry and all the drilling companies that were drilling before he was elected.






http://www.eia.gov/dnav/pet/hist/LeafHandler.ashx?n=PET&s=MTTIMUS1&f=M
We need Candy to fact check the EIA data!
Looks like we are at the same numbers as we were when he took office.
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http://twitchy.com/2012/10/16/and-now-cnn-walks-back-false-act-of-terror-fact-check/
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Oct 16 2012, 11:42 PM
kbp
Oct 16 2012, 11:38 PM
LTC8K6
Oct 16 2012, 11:36 PM
kbp
Oct 16 2012, 11:27 PM
O:...We're actually drilling more on public lands than in the previous administration and my -- the previous president was an oil man.


Duh! If you open one more well on land previously leased, that is "drilling more."


O: So what I've tried to do is be consistent. With respect to something like coal, we made the largest investment in clean coal technology, to make sure that even as we're producing more coal, we're producing it cleaner and smarter

Except coal production is down ...or does "more" mean we did not stop completely????


O: ...we made the largest investment in clean coal technology, to make sure that even as we're producing more coal, we're producing it cleaner and smarter. Same thing with oil, same thing with natural gas. And the proof is our oil imports are down to the lowest levels in 20 years. Oil production is up, natural gas production is up, and, most importantly, we're also starting to build cars that are more efficient.

I don't know where to start here! Maybe "we" is Barry and all the drilling companies that were drilling before he was elected.






http://www.eia.gov/dnav/pet/hist/LeafHandler.ashx?n=PET&s=MTTIMUS1&f=M
We need Candy to fact check the EIA data!
Looks like we are at the same numbers as we were when he took office.
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Candy only does "INSTANT Fact Checking" and she's only evens the clock if Obama hasn't had enough time.


We saw a new kind of Moderator.


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Her credibility is now gone, though.
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Oct 16 2012, 11:45 PM
This should actually make headlines. While it exposes the inaccuracy, it alse misdirects attention away from the core problems Barry faces.
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