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Presidential Debate - 10/16/12
Topic Started: Oct 14 2012, 08:22 PM (6,931 Views)
Baldo
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Of course we are waiting for the October surprise where Obama will personally lead Seals Team 6 into battle and kill the Islamists who killed the four Americans.

Obama is screwed. He should have acted immediately. Now half the voters will think any response is for political purposes

Last night in the debate I think they brushed up against the truth. Secretary of State Official Lamb may have reveal a Butterfield moment before the hearing last week

During the Nixon Watergate hearings Alexander Butterfield, a White House aide, revealed that there was a taping system in place in the Oval Office. Lamb revealed they were monitoring it live at State :think:

If the situation room at State was watching it I believe it was being watched at DOD & in the White House situation room.

Since 911 we have gained that capability. It is a bit strange to think an ongoing live attack on a Ambassador which was being monitored live didn't cause alarms in the Defense Department and in the White House.

Something to ponder. This gets stinkier.

Edited by Baldo, Oct 17 2012, 02:47 PM.
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http://www.boston.com/2012/10/17/binders-full-women-effort-predated-romney/DZrsYx7vG0uDWWHkJEz38L/story.html

A coalition of Massachusetts women’s groups says GOP presidential nominee Mitt Romney did, in fact, receive binders with the names of potential female candidates for high-level positions when he was governor.
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DukieInKansas

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Oct 16 2012, 11:27 PM
O:...We're actually drilling more on public lands than in the previous administration and my -- the previous president was an oil man.


Duh! If you open one more well on land previously leased, that is "drilling more."


O: So what I've tried to do is be consistent. With respect to something like coal, we made the largest investment in clean coal technology, to make sure that even as we're producing more coal, we're producing it cleaner and smarter

Except coal production is down ...or does "more" mean we did not stop completely????


O: ...we made the largest investment in clean coal technology, to make sure that even as we're producing more coal, we're producing it cleaner and smarter. Same thing with oil, same thing with natural gas. And the proof is our oil imports are down to the lowest levels in 20 years. Oil production is up, natural gas production is up, and, most importantly, we're also starting to build cars that are more efficient.

I don't know where to start here! Maybe "we" is Barry and all the drilling companies that were drilling before he was elected.






Wait - gas prices were low at the beginning of the President's term because Bush put the economy in the tank. Mention was made that people weren't driving as much. (Not sure if that was in post debate discussion or in the debate).

How much of the lower oil importation due to drop in demand vs increased use of North American oil?
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IjVABCcAgYY&feature=player_embedded

Watch 1:13:30 thru 1:14:22
She had just previously shuffled papers and at the end of that segment had the transcript already in hand. How did Barry know to ask her to get the transcript and how did she know to have it?

An earlier picture shows she does NOT have loads of transcripts at hand to solve all possible arguments!
Edited by kbp, Oct 17 2012, 03:01 PM.
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kbp

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Oct 17 2012, 02:58 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IjVABCcAgYY&feature=player_embedded

Watch 1:13:30 thru 1:14:22
She had just previously shuffled papers and at the end of that segment had the transcript already in hand. How did Barry know to ask her to get the transcript and how did she know to have it?

An earlier picture shows she does NOT have loads of transcripts at hand to solve all possible arguments!
This is so obvious to me. Am I misjudging something here? She had the transcript in hand BEFORE Barry told told her to. Look at the transcript also:

ROMNEY: I want to make sure we get that for the record because it took the president 14 days before he called the attack in Benghazi an act of terror.

OBAMA: Get the transcript.

CROWLEY: It -- it -- it -- he did in fact, sir. So let me -- let me call it an act of terror...


There is no "wait a moment or second while I look for the transcript I just happen to have handy in my small number of papers I brought along tonight" ...it was sorted out before he asked and in hand ready for him to ask.
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kbp

I'd bet donuts against dollars that FLOTUS knew when to clap and cheer BEFORE it happened.
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http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Journalism/2012/10/17/Flashback-Crowley-Said-Obama-Took-17-Days-To-Claim-Benghazi-Attacks-Were-Acts-Of-Terror

Crowley: Obama Took 17 Days to Claim Benghazi Was Terror Attack

...On September 30, Crowley said that 17 days after the attacks, on Friday September 28, "we got the administration's sort of definitive statement that this now looks as though it was a pre-planned attack by a terrorist group, and some of whom were at least sympathetic to al Qaeda."

"Why do you think and are you bothered that it has taken them this long from September 11th to now to get to this conclusion?," Crowley asked McCain.
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kbp

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Oct 17 2012, 03:16 PM
I'd bet donuts against dollars that FLOTUS knew when to clap and cheer BEFORE it happened.
http://patdollard.com/2012/10/townhall-debate-participant-confirms-michelle-o-led-participant-applause/
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Mason
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We know one question in that debate was a set-up. So, to me, that calls the rest of the debate into question.

No one should be surprised the media will do whatever is necessary.

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DukieInKansas
Oct 17 2012, 02:50 PM
kbp
Oct 16 2012, 11:27 PM
O:...We're actually drilling more on public lands than in the previous administration and my -- the previous president was an oil man.


Duh! If you open one more well on land previously leased, that is "drilling more."


O: So what I've tried to do is be consistent. With respect to something like coal, we made the largest investment in clean coal technology, to make sure that even as we're producing more coal, we're producing it cleaner and smarter

Except coal production is down ...or does "more" mean we did not stop completely????


O: ...we made the largest investment in clean coal technology, to make sure that even as we're producing more coal, we're producing it cleaner and smarter. Same thing with oil, same thing with natural gas. And the proof is our oil imports are down to the lowest levels in 20 years. Oil production is up, natural gas production is up, and, most importantly, we're also starting to build cars that are more efficient.

I don't know where to start here! Maybe "we" is Barry and all the drilling companies that were drilling before he was elected.






Wait - gas prices were low at the beginning of the President's term because Bush put the economy in the tank. Mention was made that people weren't driving as much. (Not sure if that was in post debate discussion or in the debate).

How much of the lower oil importation due to drop in demand vs increased use of North American oil?
It was debate discussion.

I have seen the data showing both the slow down and production reduced imports, but I do not recall the exact percentages of either.

ADD: I know North Dakota alone has added about half a million barrels per day to domestic production, and we use just less than 20 million per day.
Edited by kbp, Oct 17 2012, 03:53 PM.
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http://www.wral.com/black-support-for-obama-waning-in-nc/11671058/
Black support for Obama waning in NC
Posted: 16 minutes ago
Updated: 12 minutes ago

Raleigh, N.C. — Historically high turnout by black voters helped President Barack Obama win North Carolina in 2008 by 14,000 votes, which was his narrowest margin of victory nationwide.

Polls show Obama's support among black voters this year is weaker, which only heightens North Carolina's status as a swing state in next month's presidential election.

A WRAL News poll from October 2008 showed 92 percent of black voters in North Carolina supported Obama, while only 3 percent backed Republican nominee John McCain. In a WRAL News poll released two weeks ago, Obama's support among black voters has fallen to 87 percent, with 12 percent saying they plan to back Republican Mitt Romney.

Those results are moving in the opposite direction from overall Democratic support for Obama, which is higher this year.

David McLennan, a political science professor at William Peace University in Raleigh, said the weaker support among blacks in North Carolina is probably due in part to the economy.

snip....
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MikeZPU

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Oct 17 2012, 03:38 PM
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We know one question in that debate was a set-up. So, to me, that calls the rest of the debate into question.

No one should be surprised the media will do whatever is necessary.
It's absolutely clear what happened here.

In advance of last night's debate, Crowley studied Romney's recent campaign speeches
to see which talking points were common to all or most of his recent speeches, and
thus likely for him to repeat during the debate.

She spotted a fine line on which to challenge Romney's assertion that
"it took 14 days for the President to refer to the Libya attack as terror."

She realized that Obama had used the phrase "acts of terrorism" in his Rose
Garden speech the day after the attack, so she was ready to pounce when
Romney asserted that talking point with that exact wording.

Then, to pretend like she's impartial, she's go out after the debate to say that
Romney "was in the main, but just chose the wrong word "terror."

Okay, if she was going to inject herself into the debate, then she all had to say
was "well, the President did use the word 'terror', so is your point of contention
whether or not the attack was pre-planned, that is, orchestrated, or not?"

There's one thing that I am certain of: what Crowley did was pre-planned.
She knew the exact wording of the talking point that Romney had been making
at recent campaign stomp speeches, and she was ready to bail out Obama.
Edited by MikeZPU, Oct 17 2012, 05:03 PM.
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WaPo: Romney's coal plant is still open
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Obama right and wrong on coal plant
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Obama said that Romney as governor stood outside a Massachusetts coal plant and said it killed people. He’s right that in 2003, Gov. Romney said he was opposed to giving the Salem Harbor coal plant an extension on regulations that required a reduction in emissions. When the issue of jobs came up, Romney said he wouldn’t protect jobs if it meant killing people and, pointing at the plant, he said that the coal plant was killing people. Obama was wrong when he said Romney “took great pride” in shutting down the plant. The plant is still open, though two of its four units have closed.


Thereby showing a good balance between industrial economics and preventing pollution.
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Heh: In Full-Page Newspaper Ad, 13 Iowa Voters Apologize For supporting Obama In 2008…

http://blogs.desmoinesregister.com/dmr/index.php/2012/10/17/in-full-page-ad-13-iowa-voters-apologize-for-supporting-obama-in-2008/article?nclick_check=1
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MikeZPU
Oct 17 2012, 04:33 PM
Mason
Oct 17 2012, 03:38 PM
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We know one question in that debate was a set-up. So, to me, that calls the rest of the debate into question.

No one should be surprised the media will do whatever is necessary.
It's absolutely clear what happened here.

In advance of last night's debate, Crowley studied Romney's recent campaign speeches
to see which talking points were common to all or most of his recent speeches, and
thus likely for him to repeat during the debate.

She spotted a fine line on which to challenge Romney's assertion that
"it took 14 days for the President to refer to the Libya attack as terror."

She realized that Obama had used the phrase "acts of terrorism" in his Rose
Garden speech the day after the attack, so she was ready to pounce when
Romney asserted that talking point with that exact wording.

Then, to pretend like she's impartial, she's go out after the debate to say that
Romney "was in the main, but just chose the wrong word "terror."

Okay, if she was going to inject herself into the debate, then she all had to say
was "well, the President did use the word 'terror', so is your point of contention
whether or not the attack was pre-planned, that is, orchestrated, or not?"

There's one thing that I am certain of: what Crowley did was pre-planned.
She knew the exact wording of the talking point that Romney had been making
at recent campaign stomp speeches, and she was ready to bail out Obama.
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Beyond that, how did Obama know Kerry?

How did he know he was next? How did he know where he would be sitting?

And Kerry is offering up explanations for Obama waiting two weeks (while spinning a lie that just so happens fits in with his worldview perfectly).

I think Obama got the Q's and knew where they would be coming from.

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