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Presidential Debate 10/03/12
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Mason
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Well, he doesn't know his religion - doesn't know the year he was born, and doesn't know he voted against passing against the Stafford Act (think New Orleans).

He fooled the electorate in '08. He's sure he can fool them again.


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Mason
Oct 8 2012, 07:46 PM
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Who is the moderator or moderators in the next debate?

The Easiest thing to do put things right (in liberal minds) is to give Obama the questions beforehand.

That's where my mind is going anyway...


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October 11, 2012
Vice Presidential
Topic: Foreign and domestic policy
Air Time: 9:00-10:30 p.m. Eastern Time
Location: Centre College in Danville, Kentucky (Tickets)
Sponsor: Commission on Presidential Debates
Participants: Vice President Joe Biden and Congressman Paul Ryan
Moderator: Martha Raddatz (ABC News Chief Foreign Correspondent)
The debate will cover both foreign and domestic topics and be divided into nine time segments of approximately 10 minutes each. The moderator will ask an opening question, after which each candidate will have two minutes to respond. The moderator will use the balance of the time in the segment for a discussion of the question.

October 16, 2012
Topic: Town meeting format including foreign and domestic policy
Air Time: 9:00-10:30 p.m. Eastern Time
Location: Hofstra University in Hempstead, New York (Tickets)
Sponsor: Commission on Presidential Debates
Participants: President Barack Obama and Governor Mitt Romney
Moderator: Candy Crowley (CNN Chief Political Correspondent)
The second presidential debate will take the form of a town meeting, in which citizens will ask questions of the candidates on foreign and domestic issues. Candidates each will have two minutes to respond, and an additional minute for the moderator to facilitate a discussion. The town meeting participants will be undecided voters selected by the Gallup Organization.

October 22, 2012
Topic: Foreign policy
Air Time: 9:00-10:30 p.m. Eastern Time
Location: Lynn University in Boca Raton, Florida (Tickets)
Sponsor: Commission on Presidential Debates
Participants: President Barack Obama and Governor Mitt Romney
Moderator: Bob Schieffer (Host of Face the Nation on CBS)
The format for the debate will be identical to the first presidential debate and will focus on foreign policy.
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THank you!

I think ABC and I think Georgie Stephanopolus - he will go to any length to see Obama relected. He's even part of the DEM strategy sessions.

That's not good news. Just not good.

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kbp

We saw him already on domestic topics, and we know what he faces on his record with foreign topics...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uFf0dUH3OtU&feature=player_embedded

and considering what he must face...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2yf7WJ5Glkk&feature=player_embedded

I'm not anticipating Barry walking off with a big victory that will reverse the polls.



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Mason
Oct 8 2012, 08:28 PM
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THank you!

I think ABC and I think Georgie Stephanopolus - he will go to any length to see Obama relected. He's even part of the DEM strategy sessions.

That's not good news. Just not good.

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Do you think Paul Ryan is intimidated by George? Somehow I can just see Ivy-League George being left in the dust by Paul Ryan's non-nonsense, straight -shooting intelligence.
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Debate-->Obama 'believed he had BEATEN Romney'


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When President Barack Obama stepped off the stage in Denver last week the 60 million Americans watching the debate against Mitt Romney already knew it had been a disaster for him.
But what nobody knew, until now, was that Obama believed he had actually won.
In an extraordinary insight into the events leading up to the 90 minute showdown which changed the face of the election, a Democrat close to the Obama campaign today reveals that the President also did not take his debate preparation seriously, ignored the advice of senior aides and ignored one-liners that had been prepared to wound Romney.


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2215173/Obama-believed-beaten-Romney-Denver-debate-ignoring-advice-aides.html#ixzz28qTyUnOo

a photo caption reads: "Hubris: Obama's central problem was that he was so disdainful of Romney that the President, seen here boarding Air Force One in San Francisco today, didn't believe he needed to engage with him"




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Oct 8 2012, 10:49 PM
Mason
Oct 8 2012, 08:28 PM
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THank you!

I think ABC and I think Georgie Stephanopolus - he will go to any length to see Obama relected. He's even part of the DEM strategy sessions.

That's not good news. Just not good.

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Do you think Paul Ryan is intimidated by George? Somehow I can just see Ivy-League George being left in the dust by Paul Ryan's non-nonsense, straight -shooting intelligence.
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I was thinking more in terms of dirty tricks and dishonest practices.

Like providing the questions beforehand.

If one has the questions beforehand, you have 5 people doing research and making edits. That would stand any debate on its head.

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I dont know how you folks do it but every time you bring up some interesting subject, the topic shows up on weasel zippers. lol
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http://washingtonexaminer.com/aclu-pressuring-vice-presidential-debate-moderator-to-emphasize-gop-war-on-women/article/2510262#.UHTLTLQzD0d

ACLU pressuring vice presidential debate moderator to emphasize GOP ‘war on women’

October 9, 2012 | 5:28 pm
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Barack Obama was a guest at the 1991 wedding of ABC senior foreign correspondent and vice presidential debate moderator Martha Raddatz, The Daily Caller has learned...

http://dailycaller.com/2012/10/10/abc-news-scrambles-to-cover-up-barack-obamas-attendance-at-vp-debate-moderators-wedding/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter
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kbp

I'm bumping into quite a few articles addressing how Barry needs to and can make his comeback in the upcoming debates. After reading many, here are examples of what I'm seeing:

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http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2012/oct/12/democrats-debate-debacle/
WEINER: Democrats’ debate debacle
Obama can still come back after poor performance


...Mr. Obama let Mr. Romney get away with everything. He should have countered Mr. Romney’s line about “trickle-down government” with “trickle-down economics hasn’t worked since Hoover” (and actually should have used something like that first, before Mr. Romney stole the “trickle-down” line and said “government”).

Who gets there first does not change the FACTS. Barry's constantly repeated one-liner is for the economy to grow from the "middle-class out" with his plan. Be it that line or "trickle up" or "trickle out" or whatever, all income comes from either investments or compensation for employment - JOBS, JOBS, JOBS... Some liberals may argue it's a 'chicken/egg' debate, but in a free market economy you MUST have a chicken to produce an egg ...in Barry's economy the government is stealing the eggs from chickens that belong to others and handing them out to 50 million people. Somebody else is paying to feed those chickens.

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When Mr. Romney compared the $5 trillion tax-cut assertion to his five sons “saying something that’s not always true but just repeating it and ultimately hoping I’ll believe it,” it was a perfect opening for the president to retort: “But you have proposed a 20 percent across-the-board tax cut. You can’t have a family, or America, headed by a magician who miraculously pulls a rabbit out of a hat. When you refuse to say where you will get the deductions and loopholes to pay for your cuts, the American people recognize blue smoke and mirrors and want real answers, not a secret plan that can make them bankrupt. Mitt, how much would you cut deductions for home mortgages, charities or health benefits that Americans need and that help our economy? And don’t say, ‘I’ll tell you later.’”

The plan was NEVER all about ONLY funding through elimination of "deductions and loopholes" ...the $5 trillion is the Obama team number ...they completely ignore revenue increases from the velocity of circulation ...and the rate reduction is subject to what Congress will allow. It's an open-ended goal to be worked out with bi-partisan approval. Mitt could again identify that the under $100k will not be hit and say that if Barry would identify which "deductions and loopholes" he and the Democratic party want to save for those making more than $100k a year that he'd have the process already started and underway to reduce taxes. Maybe he could start a response with a lesson on what the velocity of circulation (money) is ...that would be funny! Also, toss in Clinton's record on what tax & spending cuts do.

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On Social Security, it was inexcusable for the president to say, “We think alike.” He should have said, “Republicans have been pressing for privatization for years.”

I'm not aware of Romney pushing for that, but I am aware that Barry cut SS payroll taxes - in his "trickle up" stategy that did NOT work - which reduced the solvency of the program.

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As for the Medicare $716 billion cut, it was amazing Mr. Obama did not point out that his cut was to prevent insurance companies from overcharging and the money went to seniors’ drug “doughnut hole” coverage, adding years to Medicare’s solvency, whereas the Republicans voted to cut actual benefits.

LMAO!! There they go again, spending the money twice! It is either to be spent on Obamacare or on Medicare, not both. Mitt needs to help by explaining what "means tested" does and make it quite clear that all the increase in costs the Democrats point out are an AVERAGE which would be shouldered by the wealthier, NOT 'average Joe' ...it is smoke & mirrors that would be the same as average tax per person, though many people pay no taxes and some pay much more. Actually, the changes Romney/Ryan propose are progressive, so the Democrats should be jumping for joy ....but the government would not have ALL the control then!

The topics of 'trickle up or out' AND 'tax cut / revenue' already show a record of Barry's plan failing, unless he has a Plan B on the table because he knows his Plan A did not work.

The SS is a non-topic and he paints himself into a corner on the Medicare double-spending approach ...which Barry actually did in the last debate!

None of the articles I've read on this next debate issue will touch foreign affairs, which will be on the table this time around! The debates are Mitt's to lose, and a tie goes to the last winner.
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Joan Foster

I wish Romney would counter Obama's lies on his policies by saying, "Mr. President, when I hear all your mistatements about my policies, I begin to understand why we have Paralysis in Washington under your administration. You ASSUME things, you don't study them...you can't find common ground because you don't apparently do your own homework. A leader doesn't just use partisan think-tanks to reinforce his own partisan ideas. That's campaigning, not governing
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Joan Foster
Oct 14 2012, 10:04 AM
I wish Romney would counter Obama's lies on his policies by saying, "Mr. President, when I hear all your mistatements about my policies, I begin to understand why we have Paralysis in Washington under your administration. You ASSUME things, you don't study them...you can't find common ground because you don't apparently do your own homework. A leader doesn't just use partisan think-tanks to reinforce his own partisan ideas. That's campaigning, not governing
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Well thought out!
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kbp

...and stress the cost per job using Barry's method - stimulus they want more of.
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kbp

Food for thought: Romney could put a damper on the GM topic by discussing how it is failing / struggling financially, etc ...before Barry gets a chance to brag on it. It has been a steady topic of late for Barry.
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Can anyone really find something obama can brag about economically over the last 4 years?

Here, I will start,

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