| Presidential Debate 10/03/12 | |
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| kbp | Oct 5 2012, 12:29 PM Post #226 |
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I still like Gore's excuse the best. |
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| Baldo | Oct 5 2012, 12:35 PM Post #227 |
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Cool Hand Barry By CHARLES M. BLOW NY Times Well, that was odd. President Obama’s stylistic strategy during Wednesday night’s debate seemed to be to try to stay right above the rancor, to appear dignified, presidential. The problem with that approach is that the line between dignified and presidential and anodyne and weak is the width of a cat’s hair.....snipped ...There are two more chances for the president to change tactics, or at least to show up to the debates energized and nimble: President Xanax just doesn’t cut it. The question is whether he will. http://campaignstops.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/10/04/cool-hand-barry/?hp CHARLES M. BLOW NY Times |
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| chatham | Oct 5 2012, 12:39 PM Post #228 |
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3 different dem web site said Romney had notes hidden in his handkerchief. roflmao Buzzfeed I think may have that one |
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| kbp | Oct 5 2012, 12:49 PM Post #229 |
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What is wrong with having notes? ...or was that just a joke? |
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| Joan Foster | Oct 5 2012, 12:54 PM Post #230 |
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http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/dana-milbank-president-obama-doesnt-meet-the-press/2012/10/04/ac688c8a-0e78-11e2-bb5e-492c0d30bff6_story.html?hpid=z7 Gee, you don't say.... |
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| Baldo | Oct 5 2012, 01:58 PM Post #231 |
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Obama pays price for ducking the questions DENVER Barack Obama received a valuable reminder in his drubbing at Wednesday night’s debate: He is a president, not a king. In the hours after the Republican challenger Mitt Romney embarrassed the incumbent in their first meeting, Obama loyalists expressed puzzlement that the incumbent had done badly. But Obama has only himself to blame, because he set himself up for Wednesday’s emperor-has-no-clothes moment. For the past four years, he has worked assiduously to avoid being questioned, maintaining a regal detachment from the media and other sources of dissent and skeptical inquiry. Obama has set a modern record for refusal to be quizzed by the media, taking questions from reporters far less often than Ronald Reagan, George H.W. Bush, Bill Clinton and even George W. Bush. Though his opponent in 2008 promised to take questions from lawmakers like the British prime minister does, Obama has shied from mixing it up with members of Congress, too. And, especially since Rahm Emanuel’s departure, Obama is surrounded by a large number of yes men who aren’t likely to get in his face. This insularity led directly to the Denver debacle: Obama was out of practice and unprepared to be challenged. The White House had supposed that Obama’s forays into social media — town hall meetings with YouTube, Twitter, Facebook and the like — would replace traditional presidential communication. By relying on such venues, Obama’s argument skills atrophied, and he was ill-equipped to engage in old-fashioned give and take....snipped http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/dana-milbank-president-obama-doesnt-meet-the-press/2012/10/04/ac688c8a-0e78-11e2-bb5e-492c0d30bff6_story.html?hpid=z7 He rarely meets with his cabinet Edited by Baldo, Oct 5 2012, 02:00 PM.
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| MikeZPU | Oct 5 2012, 02:36 PM Post #232 |
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It really ticks me off that Obama is claiming that Romney did well in the debate because he is pretending to be something that he is not, and then accuses Romney of dishonesty: http://www.cnn.com/2012/10/04/politics/debate-main/index.html?hpt=hp_t2 The truth is exactly the opposite: it's clear from the recent videos and 4 years of Obama, that HE pretends to be something that he is not, that it is HE who puts forth a wholly false public representation, a false image, of what he is all about. It is Obama who is the liar, plain and simple. Edited by MikeZPU, Oct 5 2012, 02:59 PM.
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| LTC8K6 | Oct 5 2012, 04:52 PM Post #233 |
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Assistant to The Devil Himself
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http://s1155.photobucket.com/albums/p542/profit_guy/?action=view¤t=121015_2012_p465_zps31dc62fb.jpg |
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| MikeZPU | Oct 5 2012, 06:51 PM Post #234 |
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| Baldo | Oct 5 2012, 07:07 PM Post #235 |
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Leno On Debate Ratings: 'Only Person Who Didn't Tune In, I Think, Was Obama' Read more: http://newsbusters.org/blogs/noel-sheppard/2012/10/05/leno-debate-ratings-only-person-who-didnt-tune-i-think-was-obama#ixzz28TNVklE8 |
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| Concerned | Oct 5 2012, 07:39 PM Post #236 |
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Obama did not 'underperform': we saw the real man Barack Obama was dreadful in the first presidential debate. He seemed confused and hesitant; his thoughts were incoherent. There seems to be confusion among the Left as to how such a thing could have happened. How could such a celebrated orator underperform? The answer is simple: Obama did not underperform. Mr Obama is in the midst of an election campaign he is attempting to win without policies. He claims he will cut debt despite having ruled out reductions to the most significant area of spending, welfare entitlements. He wants to avoid war in the Middle East, which is commendable, but not, in itself, a policy. He is against a "war on women", he is against the Boy Scouts of America banning gays. This isn't anywhere close to being a prospectus for governing the world's most important country through a period of crisis – it's a manifesto for election to a student union. The argument has always been that we should not expect Mr Obama to share his innermost thoughts with us. The man, so we are told, is such an intellectual giant that we would not understand him if he did. That is one explanation. The other is that Mr Obama's intellectual development froze around the time he first encountered socialism. He is exceptionally good at reading out from a teleprompter, be that on the campaign trail or when addressing an audience of 12-year-olds. When he is left to articulate complex thoughts of his own, he fails. The fact is that Mr Obama has a talented, cynical team around him who have been succesful in constructing a narrative in which Mr Romney is a comic villan who wants to ruin the poor and open windows on aeroplanes. Stripped of these people, he has no memorable policies and very few discernible convictions. The emptiness we saw on Wednesday was the real thing. http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/finance/thomaspascoe/100020522/obama-did-not-underperform-we-saw-the-real-man/ |
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| chatham | Oct 5 2012, 07:45 PM Post #237 |
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I thought the same thing, that we saw the real obama. I know I, and I think all of us here have seen smart and brilliant people in our lives. Even interacted with them. ANd obama is not on my list of people who impressed me in any aspect. Does not mean I think he is dumb. But he relates to me as just being a normally and maybe just a nominally common person. Brilliant? no. The guy could not hum without a hem or a stutter. Edited by chatham, Oct 5 2012, 07:46 PM.
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| foxglove | Oct 6 2012, 06:23 AM Post #238 |
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Obama may be nothing but a facade, a empty suit, the Wizard of Oz, etc. But he seemed cowed at the debate. Whether his listlessness was due to altitude, an incredible lack of preparation, or something else is not known. Romney was thoroughly prepared down to taking in the background behind the candidates, the words of the Constitution, which Romney referred to in the debate. Had he or his campaign checked out what would be the background before the debate? Who made the decision to have the background as it was? Romney used the word "buried" to describe the middle class then use the word "crushed". He only used the word "buried" to describe the middle class once and I think it was a reference to Joe Biden's comment about the middle class being buried the last 4 years. I believe this reference to "buried" was not an accident. Romney also brought up PBS as a target for budget cuts-- the only specific thing he mentioned for budget cuts except for oil companies which Obama brought up. Maybe the reference of PBS of all the specific programs he could have listed was to put Jim Lehr off guard and show dominence of the entire debate, even dominance of the moderator. (It seemed that after Romney spoke of ending funding for PBS, Lehr started to throw a life line or two to Obama). Another possibility is that PBS in Colorado showed a program about 9-11 from a group of engineers and architects who have some questions about the official 9-11 story. With all the neoconservatives behind Romney, I suppose it is possible that Romney's threat against PBS was a warning for PBS to stay away from that type of programming. (I doubt Romney and his foreign policy team have anything against Big Bird, but 9-11 truthers?) Who knows? Obama could have been listless because he found out that the opposition had another damaging video. Often there are things behind the scenes and perhaps Obama was checkmated before he even started the debate. |
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| chatham | Oct 6 2012, 07:20 AM Post #239 |
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I believe biden used one or two of theose words when he described the middle class over the last 4 years. It became news items. I believe Romney used those words on purpose to remind people what biden said and Romney was agreeing. |
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| kbp | Oct 6 2012, 08:07 AM Post #240 |
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Any excuse given must include the fact that the man is the POTUS. Is he incapable of planning ahead to avoid problems? |
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