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As the election draws closer
Topic Started: Sep 17 2012, 02:08 PM (951 Views)
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Joan Foster
Sep 17 2012, 02:08 PM
There is one bible verse that keeps coming to mind..as I read these political articles, again and again it comes to me....

"But Jesus turning unto them said, Daughters of Jerusalem, weep not for me, but weep for yourselves, and for your children. For, behold, the days are coming, in the which they shall say, Blessed are the barren, and the wombs that never bare, and the paps which never gave suck. Then shall they begin to say to the mountains, Fall on us; and to the hills, Cover us. "

I think we are there.

These little minds all possessed by their GODALMIGHTY race, gender, sexuality "issues"....all these Unions and Illegals and Honey-boo-boos...thinking that there are simple answers by which the Government can give them MORE. The acendancy of the Stupid and the Avenging Aggrieved.

"The Mirror Cracked from side to side.."
Joan, this is the prophesy and who knows the time nor place, but it looks ever more certain that we are entering a great time of mourning if we cannot turn this around. As promised, if men will turn from their wicked ways and seek the face of God, he has promised that he would provide a refuge and restore their land. I believe that there are those whose hearts are quickened to that message, but so many more that deem it foolish. I like you and so many others on this board weep for the future of our children.
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Dear TD, I feel as you do..."the curse has come upon us." We do indeed "weep for ourselves and our children."

If we wish to see the future, look to the children of the Duke Hoax. It will be worse in the future. Will Heroes of the Past stand with is... or as Obama supporters, will their own cultural issues silence them next time?

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Romney is actively trying to lose this election. Or as Drudge puts it...ROMNEY GETS REAL: OBAMA SUPPORTERS 'DEPENDENT ON GOVERNMENT'

http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/09/17/romney-faults-those-dependent-on-government/

Romney Talks Bluntly of Those Dependent on Government


Mitt Romney described almost half of Americans as “dependent upon government” during a private reception with donors this year and said those voters were likely to support President Obama because they believe they are “entitled to health care, to food, to housing, to you-name-it.”

The blunt political and cultural assessment by the Republican presidential candidate offers a rare glimpse into Mr. Romney’s personal views as the campaign enters its final 50 days. Liberals quickly condemned the remarks as insensitive, and Mr. Obama’s campaign accused him of having “disdainfully written off half the nation.”

The recordings surfaced even as Mr. Romney sought to retool his campaign message amid internal campaign sniping and calls from Republicans outside the campaign for him to be more specific about how his policies will fix the nation’s economy.

The video clips raised the possibility that his campaign would once again be sidetracked by Mr. Romney’s own words, a problem that has plagued the former Massachusetts governor since his hard-fought battle with Republican rivals during the nominating contests earlier this year.

The video of Mr. Romney making the comments was posted on the Internet Monday afternoon by Mother Jones, a liberal magazine, which said it had obtained the recording and had confirmed its authenticity. The magazine said it was concealing the identity of the person who took the video and the location and time of the recording.

The New York Times is unable to confirm where or when the clips were taken. The author of the article on the Mother Jones Web site, David Corn, said the video was taken after Mr. Romney won the Republican nominating contest, but he declined to comment further.

The video was apparently unearthed with help from James Carter, the grandson of former President Jimmy Carter. Mr. Carter, who lists “oppo researcher” on his Twitter bio, told New York Magazine that he helped find the videos and get them to Mr. Corn at Mother Jones. He is credited with “research assistance” on the Mother Jones Web site. Mr. Romney has repeatedly compared Mr. Obama to Jimmy Carter, suggesting both were failures.

In one video segment, Mr. Romney described how his campaign is writing off “47 percent of the people” who will vote for Mr. Obama “no matter what.” He adds that those people “are people who pay no income tax” and says “so our message of low taxes doesn’t connect.”

Mr. Romney said that “my job is not to worry about those people. I’ll never convince them they should take personal responsibility and care for their lives.”

The comments by Mr. Romney were more stark than usual, though he typically talks in public about supporters of Mr. Obama wanting big government to take care of their problems. He often accuses Mr. Obama and his supporters of wanting to bring a European-style socialism to the United States.

In the videos, Mr. Romney says that his campaign is concentrating on the “5 to 10 percent in the center” whom he describes as “thoughtful” when it comes to deciding who to vote for.

Jim Messina, Mr. Obama’s campaign manager, said in a statement Monday evening that it was “shocking” that Mr. Romney would “go behind closed doors” to describe nearly half of the country in such terms.

“It’s hard to serve as president for all Americans when you’ve disdainfully written off half the nation,” Mr. Messina wrote.

Gail Gitcho, the communications director for Mr. Romney, said in a statement that Mr. Romney is “concerned about the growing number of people who are dependent on the federal government, including the record number of people who are on food stamps, nearly one in six Americans in poverty, and the 23 million Americans who are struggling to find work.”

The videos, which are blurry, nonetheless clearly show Mr. Romney as he engages in a lengthy discussion about his quest to win the White House from Mr. Obama.

In other segments of the fund-raiser, Mr. Romney speaks candidly — and confidently — about the challenges that he faces going up against an incumbent president. He dismisses the idea of providing more specifics about his policy proposals, saying providing a “highly intellectual” discussion of such issues “typically doesn’t win elections.”

He said his campaign had put out “white papers” on a series of subjects, but added: “I have to tell you, I don’t think this will have a significant impact on my electability. I wish it did.”

Mr. Romney also predicted that stock markets would likely rise if he wins in November.

“There will be a great deal of optimism about the future of this country,” he said. “We’ll see capital come back and we’ll see — without actually doing anything — we’ll actually get a boost in the economy,” he said. “If the president gets re-elected, I don’t know what will happen. I can­, I can never predict what the markets will do.”

In an audio clip of the same fund-raiser, apparently posted on the Internet by the person who gave the videos to Mother Jones, Mr. Romney is heard joking that he would have had an easier time winning the election if his father had been born to Mexican parents.

“My dad, as you probably know, was the governor of Michigan and was the head of a car company,” Mr. Romney says in the audio clip. “But he was born in Mexico and, uh, had he been born of, uh, Mexican parents, I’d have a better shot at winning this.”

He added a moment later: “I say that jokingly, but it would be helpful to be, uh, Latino.”

But the most striking part of the video is Mr. Romney’s characterization of nearly half of the country. His assessment of the “47 percent” echoes a line of conservative thinking that has been championed by his running mate, Representative Paul D. Ryan. Mr. Ryan has long argued that nearly half of the people in America are either “dependent” or “reliant” on the federal government.

“A full 70 percent of Americans get more benefits in dollar value from the federal government than they pay back in taxes,” Mr. Ryan said in a speech at the American Enterprise Institute, according to The New Republic.

Mr. Romney’s figure of 47 percent may come from the Tax Policy Center, which found that 46.4 percent of households paid no federal income tax in 2011. But most households did pay payroll taxes. Of the 18.1 percent of households that paid neither income taxes nor payroll taxes, the center
found that more than half were elderly and more than a third were not elderly but had incomes under $20,000. Roberton Williams, a senior fellow at the center, wrote in a blog post last summer that about half of those were off the rolls
because they had low incomes.

Michael Cooper and Nicholas Confessore contributed reporting.
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Sep 17 2012, 08:48 PM
Romney is actively trying to lose this election. Or as Drudge puts it...ROMNEY GETS REAL: OBAMA SUPPORTERS 'DEPENDENT ON GOVERNMENT'

http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/09/17/romney-faults-those-dependent-on-government/

Romney Talks Bluntly of Those Dependent on Government


Mitt Romney described almost half of Americans as “dependent upon government” during a private reception with donors this year and said those voters were likely to support President Obama because they believe they are “entitled to health care, to food, to housing, to you-name-it.”

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Actually, I like what i have read (so far) that he is reported to have said. He is telling the truth. 47% pay no income tax.

disclaimer, i have not had time to watch the videos.

Also twittering conservatives have had a positive reaction. They want Blunt Talk.

And twittering libs are having a field day with the negatives, taking words out of context as usual.

Not sure how many voters use twitter.
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Maybe Mitt can explain how the 47% could have the opportunity of experiencing PRIDE under his administration ...if bloodsuckers still understand that.
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Not sure how many voters use twitter.

Or perhaps how many of the "bloodsuckers" have twitter on their "free" cellphones paid for by the so called one percenters.
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Sep 18 2012, 11:42 AM
Not sure how many voters use twitter.

Or perhaps how many of the "bloodsuckers" have twitter on their "free" cellphones paid for by the so called one percenters.
That would now be the "53 percenters" !
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Sep 18 2012, 04:56 PM
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Sep 18 2012, 11:42 AM
Not sure how many voters use twitter.

Or perhaps how many of the "bloodsuckers" have twitter on their "free" cellphones paid for by the so called one percenters.
That would now be the "53 percenters" !
Exactly! Communication not exactly my strong suit.
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Sep 18 2012, 05:05 PM
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Sep 18 2012, 04:56 PM
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Sep 18 2012, 11:42 AM
Not sure how many voters use twitter.

Or perhaps how many of the "bloodsuckers" have twitter on their "free" cellphones paid for by the so called one percenters.
That would now be the "53 percenters" !
Exactly! Communication not exactly my strong suit.
Actually, there are taxes paid by 100%. Some hidden in inflation, many in various fees...

Edited by kbp, Sep 18 2012, 05:18 PM.
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Sep 18 2012, 05:18 PM
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Sep 18 2012, 05:05 PM
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Sep 18 2012, 04:56 PM
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Sep 18 2012, 11:42 AM
Not sure how many voters use twitter.

Or perhaps how many of the "bloodsuckers" have twitter on their "free" cellphones paid for by the so called one percenters.
That would now be the "53 percenters" !
Exactly! Communication not exactly my strong suit.
Actually, there are taxes paid by 100%. Some hidden in inflation, many in various fees...

Agreed. But here we are talking about those who pay federal income tax.


Which is odd, really. Because most people with accountants know that the goal is to not pay anything,or minimal tax amounts, and to spend your money on things which can be deducted.

One reason I'm in favor of ( the idea ) of sales tax to replace income tax.
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http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/daily/2012/09/18/a_golden_opportunity_for_mitt_romney

A Golden Opportunity for Mitt Romney

....This could be the opportunity for Romney and for that campaign to finally take the gloves off and take the fear off and just start explaining conservatism. Start explaining liberty to people and what it means, and explain that they don't have to be in that 47%. There's no reason for them, for everybody, to essentially have given up on their future in this country.
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sure would like to see similar data from 2010 and 2011.
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Sep 18 2012, 07:08 PM
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How do you turn this "thinking" smilie upside down?

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