| The Todd Akin mess | |
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| nyesq83 | Aug 21 2012, 09:38 AM Post #31 |
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No, I meant to type santorum -Google santorum and neologism... |
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| Baldo | Aug 21 2012, 10:06 AM Post #32 |
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Top congressional Republicans, including House Speaker John Boehner, Senate GOP leader Mitch McConnell and Sen. John Cornyn of Texas, advised Akin to spend time considering what is best for his family, party and country -- political code for urging him to withdraw....snipped ...McCaskill issued supportive remarks about Akin on Monday, saying she and Akin "disagree on some things, but he is sincere." "While I disagree with what he said, he has now in the last few hours really apologized for what he said. I think what is startling to me is that these party bigwigs are coming down on him and saying that he needs to kick sand in the face of the Republican primary voters," she said. Amy Kremer, chairwoman of the Tea Party Express, said Tuesday that "the fact that Claire McCaskill wants him to stay in the race speaks volumes." She said the longer Akin remains in the race, the more his comments will overshadow crucial economic issues...snipped http://www.cnn.com/2012/08/21/politics/akin-controversy/index.html?eref=rss_mostpopular McCaskill to Akin.. Please stay in the race. Akin is the kind of Politician we don't want in the Senate. Clearly he is putting himself over what is best for his Party. |
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| Payback | Aug 21 2012, 11:18 AM Post #33 |
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Piers can't fill Larry's chair. |
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| Baldo | Aug 21 2012, 01:32 PM Post #34 |
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Akin: ‘We are going to continue with this race for the US Senate’ Rep. Todd Akin, R-Mo., told Mike Huckabee that he will not drop out of the U.S. Senate race as party leadership has requested after his remarks on rape and abortion. “We are going to continue with this race for the U.S. Senate,” Akin told Huckabee on radio today. He reiterated that he misspoke, but then took a shot at the party brass that didn’t support him in the primary. “They were with us, and then I said one word in one sentence on one day and everything changed, and now we’re back where we were in the primary,” Akin said. The call for him to resign the party nomination resulted from Akin saying “If it’s a legitimate rape, the female body has ways to try to shut the whole thing down” during a Sunday interview. He released an ad asking for forgiveness, saying that he “used the wrong words in the wrong way.”...snipped http://washingtonexaminer.com/akin-we-are-going-to-continue-with-this-race-for-the-us-senate/article/2505506#.UDPRM6DnfTo It's "I" time. Doesn't think about his party and all the others races in the country which are close. The Missouri GOP must pay the cost of the ballots if he doesn't pull out by next Tuesday and put up Sarah Steelman, the Sarah Palin-endorsed candidate who came in a very close third in the primary. BTW it wasn't just the remark that cost him this problem. It was being an idiot fool saying no woman who suffers a rape should have an abortion & Then having the slimy excuse that if it was a legitimate rape the woman wouldn't conceive. My Goodness what an sleazeball. He can't even just hold to his beliefs but makes up this idiotic excuse. Who wants that "scientific" mind the the US Senate? Edited by Baldo, Aug 21 2012, 01:41 PM.
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| MikeZPU | Aug 21 2012, 02:54 PM Post #35 |
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As anticiipated, liberals are trying to smear all Republicans with Akin's comments, as per "it's not just Akin": http://2012.talkingpointsmemo.com/2012/08/steve-king-statutory-rape.php?utm_source=Facebook&utm_medium=post&utm_campaign=ppactionfb http://www.cnn.com/2012/08/21/opinion/granderson-gop-rape-abortion/index.html?hpt=hp_t1 Edited by MikeZPU, Aug 21 2012, 04:39 PM.
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| nyesq83 | Aug 21 2012, 02:57 PM Post #36 |
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I'm half-serious; Akin should be made to understand what it is like to be violated and assaulted and forced to retain whatever has been inserted into his person. Maybe he would not say such stupid things. |
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| Mason | Aug 21 2012, 03:06 PM Post #37 |
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. That double standard thing is a killer though. McCaskill has said that that the Dems have put forth a budget every year like always and anything to the contrary is a filthy lie. She's said all kinds of stupid things, and she supported Obamacare and lied about how it works. Which commentary is more germane to their position if elected, I wonder. I'm not going to defend this guy in Missouri, but if I was discussing the rape lobby's advisors and pimps - like the advocacy groups that defended Crystal after the Truth was known, if I was discussing the statistics they proffer, then the use of a term like legitimate rape may be appropriate. Meaning rape as opposed to not rape. . Edited by Mason, Aug 21 2012, 03:11 PM.
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| Mason | Aug 21 2012, 03:32 PM Post #38 |
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. Akin looks to be a Fool - but it looks like it's left to me (sorry) to balance this somewhat. He didn't say this - but he said something that you could arrive at by working backwards. This kind of information can lead to the ideas he was espousing. From Psychology Today: "They discovered that when a woman climaxes any time between a minute before to 45 minutes after her lover ejaculates, she retains significantly more sperm than she does after nonorgasmic sex. When her orgasm precedes her male's by more than a minute, or when she does not have an orgasm, little sperm is retained. Just as the doctors' letters suggested decades earlier, the team's results indicated that muscular contractions associated with orgasm pull sperm from the vagina to the cervix, where it's in better position to reach an egg." "Most recently, evolutionary psychologists have been exploring the proposition that female orgasm is a sophisticated adaptation that allows women to manipulate--even without their own awareness--which of their lovers will be allowed to fertilize their eggs." These are doctors debating these things. I know I have seen shows on infertility where female gynecologists tell the audience to try (female) orgasms as a technique to get pregnant, or to have your best shot. http://www.psychologytoday.com/articles/199601/the-orgasm-wars I understand this isn't what he said, but you can see how people could work their way backwards into this type of understanding. Fertility doctors also tell clients that stress can be a barrier and that mood and atmosphere can be helpful. I would say the popular beliefs of the mind-body link that we hear so often could lead a layman to link the two in this way concerning pregnancy. . Edited by Mason, Aug 21 2012, 03:33 PM.
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| kbp | Aug 21 2012, 04:06 PM Post #39 |
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I learned something today ...though medical procedures eliminate me! Meanwhile, if the azzhat won't step down, then we need a few like Mason to step forward for him. He's not my first choice, but he is much higher on my list than McCaskill. |
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| chatham | Aug 21 2012, 04:27 PM Post #40 |
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It is actually more complicated than that. Female orgasm does allow for muscle contraction and actually retaining more of the sperm. However, the sperm itself causes vaginal muscle contraction immediately after ejaculation to help the sperm to move up the vagina. The research on this is quite remarkable. It was discovered by a scientist back in like the 17th century that male ejaculation caused the muscle of the female organ to contract around his penis. (how is that for having fun at work). He wondered why that happened and and went to work discovering why. He discovered that is was a component in the semen of the ejaculate. He discovered this using (I hate to say it) sheep. He collected male semen from the ram and used vaginal muscle from the ewe and observed the response after adding the two together. And after a taste test determined it was an acidic type of compound. Hence it was determined to be a fatty acid and named prostaglandin. Today many compounds are called prostaglandins and having biological activity and is part of a huge family of fatty acid type compounds having important cellular functions and some that are detrimental to humans. Just another scientists dedication to finding out why...lol |
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| Mason | Aug 21 2012, 04:41 PM Post #41 |
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. "Biologically, since the hypothalamus regulates both stress responses as well as the sex hormones, it's easy to see how stress could cause infertility in some women. Excessive stress may even lead to complete suppression of the menstrual cycle, and this is often seen in female marathon runners, who develop "runner's amenorrhea". In less severe cases, it could cause anovulation or irregular menstrual cycles. When activated by stress, the pituitary gland also produces increased amounts of prolactin, and elevated levels of prolactin could cause irregular ovulation. Since the female reproductive tract contains catecholamine receptors catecholamines produced in response to stress may potentially affect fertility, for example, by interfering with the transport of gametes through the fallopian tube or by altering uterine blood flow. However, more complex mechanisms may be at play, and researchers still don't completely understand how stress interacts with the reproductive system. This is a story which is still unfolding, and during the last 20 years, the new field of pychoneuroimmunology has emerged, which focuses on how your mind can affect your body. Research has shown that the brain produces special molecules called neuropeptides, in response to emotions, and these peptides can interact with every cell of the body, including those of the immune system. In this view, the mind and the body are not only connected, but inseparable, so that it is hardly surprising that stress can have a negative influence on fertility." Dr. Aniruddha Malpani and Dr. Anjali Malpani . |
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| Baldo | Aug 21 2012, 05:40 PM Post #42 |
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Please let's leave this idiotic thinking to the Shamans. I can hear it now as every teenage boy justifies the non climax method to every teenage girl in the backseat of a Chery. American Journal of Obstetrics and Gynecology (ACOG) Statement on Rape and Pregnancy August 20, 2012 Washington, DC -- Recent remarks by a member of the US House of Representatives suggesting that “women who are victims of ‘legitimate rape’ rarely get pregnant” are medically inaccurate, offensive, and dangerous. Each year in the US, 10,000–15,000 abortions occur among women whose pregnancies are a result of reported rape or incest. An unknown number of pregnancies resulting from rape are carried to term. There is absolutely no veracity to the claim that “If it’s a legitimate rape, the female body has ways to shut that whole thing down.” A woman who is raped has no control over ovulation, fertilization, or implantation of a fertilized egg (ie, pregnancy). To suggest otherwise contradicts basic biological truths. Any person forced to submit to sexual intercourse against his or her will is the victim of rape, a heinous crime. There are no varying degrees of rape. To suggest otherwise is inaccurate and insulting and minimizes the serious physical and psychological repercussions for all victims of rape. http://www.acog.org/About_ACOG/News_Room/News_Releases/2012/Statement_on_Rape_and_Pregnancy What is typical? I don't know. What are the optimum conditions for pregnancy may be debated, but for Pete's Sake what he said is idiotic and we should leave that dunce with his cap on facing the corner. The longer this goes on the more it hurt the GOP Cause. It re-enforces what the Dems are saying about the Republicans being anti-women. That Jackass is helping them. Edited by Baldo, Aug 21 2012, 05:50 PM.
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| Mason | Aug 21 2012, 05:53 PM Post #43 |
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. I tend to agree with you but are we supposed to ignore the things the infertility specialists and TV Gynecologists say? Rape can end in pregnancy - but it seems odd that industries tell paying clients daily that stress can prevent pregnancy. I wanted the guy to step down - now he's selfish on top of speaking like an idiot. The reaction is very unusual - when McCaskill is a Budget denier - Obamacare supporter, and on and on. Gotcha's only work for Republicans? I think of Charlie Rangel calling Laura Ingraham a pretty little girl when she was asking about his Ethics investigations. Who was the Lion of the Senate again? . |
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| Deleted User | Aug 21 2012, 06:01 PM Post #44 |
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"Please let's leave this idiotic thinking to the Shamans. I can hear it now as every teenage boy justifies the non climax method to every teenage girl in the backseat of a Chery." Truly the voice of reason. Akin has to go unless I see these so called doctors step up and defend the premise. |
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| Mason | Aug 21 2012, 06:09 PM Post #45 |
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. It's Akin or McCaskill. Let's talk in terms of reality. . |
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