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| What is Wrong with Mark O'Mara?; Zimmerman Angela Corey | |
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| kbp | Jun 7 2012, 09:44 AM Post #16 |
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I’m not in agreement that OMara is even close to considering a plea, nor that he’s worrying more about his standing in the legal community than GZ’s in the case. In judging OMara, I start with the fact that false information was presented to the court. GZ and presented himself as a pauper; the impoverished man who was penniless and therefore eligible to receive the entitlement of state funds to pay for legal counsel and also to influence receiving a lower bond because of that status presented in testimony and filings …and the testimony of his wife went along with that scenario. OMara is the one representing them, so he must explain how they missed that $135,000 deposited just days before the bond hearing. He was put in a tough position, one in which there is NO QUESTION that the court was given false information for the judge to base his rulings on. That judge was the victim of false information making him look like the fool in a case getting national attention. I’d have wished for some amazing explanation to have been readily available for OMara to present at the recent hearing he found scheduled at the last minute, but I’m not sure such is available. He faced the problem of shifting the attention from the judge being the fool to somebody else taking the blame. There seems to be 3 tasks OMara should focus on: 1) getting his client out on bond; 2) getting his client off with immunity through the SYG hearing; and/or 3) getting his client off at trial by showing it was self-defense. BOND GZ is subject to the judge granting him bond a second time, so I can see it would be foolish for OMara to play a game in the media that would upset the judge and do him no good in the courtroom at the next bond hearing. If OMara is in it to the end, which will most likely be sometime late this year or next at the earliest, he has to weigh both the immediate and long-term outcome for the case resulting from what he says now. OMara wrote that “Zimmerman understands that this mistake has undermined his credibility, which he will have to work to repair.” That “credibility” addressed there is with the judge that decides the more immediate outcome; his bond. SYG HEARING (immunity) I think OMara’s strongest hand is in the evidence; that which indicates GZ was fighting for his life or to at least prevent more bodily harm, and the lack of any evidence that shows GZ committed the crime he faces charges for. Playing that hand in the SYG hearing later, to the same judge that had been misinformed about GZ financial status, will go better if OMara has not made the judge look foolish. The judge is the jury for the SYG hearing. TRIAL Should it come to a trial, I think OMara’s hand is then more open to media responses because it is then the jury he must convince, though the judge can still make it more difficult should he feel OMara belittled him ever in the public eyes. As has been mentioned, the case is has been pushed by politics and the emotions stirred by many, including the President of this nation. To OMara’s credit, he has pointed this out to the public; ”…he had been thrust into the national spotlight as a racist murderer by factions acting with their own agendas. None of those allegations have been supported by the discovery released to date, yet the hatred continues.” OMara’s battle is not with the judge who ruled that the bond would be revoked; it is mainly in the courtroom to do the best he can with the 3 tasks mentioned. Him making statements like that just quoted play to the media response and are only directed at those playing politics with the case. I must admit not everything OMara has done looks great in my judgment. “…charged with a crime he does not believe he committed”. Weak response, should have just said he did not commit it. ”…learned his lesson.” I’d have hoped for OMara to redirect to another topic, something more like telling the media why GZ should not be facing these charges that brought the bond issue about. But that might be taken as some form of denial for responsibility for the reason the judge revoked his bond. OMara did make an effort to show how the entire case - the politics, race baiting… - te context of the situation GZ and his wife were working when they addressed the false information provided to the court. You can only go so far in making excuses for that action. It is ONLY relevant to how it can help OMara accomplishing what is necessary. The immediate problem necessary is bonding out. I’m not so sure that if OMara had shifted the topic in responses to avoid the inexcusable misrepresentation of GZ’s financial status it would not have left the judge more disappointed. The admission of guilt seems to be the prerequisite to leniency through the courts, which also provides cover for the judge that ruled the state would pay for GZ’s defense and bond him out for 10% or so of $150k. IOW; I do not think it was necessary for OMara to win the media battle surrounding the bond issue to win the wars he has in this case. |
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| Mason | Jun 7 2012, 12:25 PM Post #17 |
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. Some Heavy Hitters are backing O'Mara, but his public statements puzzle me. Why say your Client's credibility has been undermined by his actions because of Bond Hearing where he remained silent? Why say you want to schedule an opportunity for your Client to speak to the Judge and explain AWAY his actions in the bond hearing? Why when the evidence looks really good for your client (after the Medical Info discovery) would you come out and remind everyone that 2/3rds of the discovery has not been released - and don't go making up your minds. Saying exactly what Angela Corey was saying at the time. This was after the State took advantage of leaking evidence injurious to Zimmerman. His commentary would've been to rebutt earlier statements and actions by the Prosecution that unfairly biased the public against his client. Why would one say - we should remember, my client is charged with a crime that he believes he did not commit? Sounds like O'Mara may believe he committed it - and opens up speculation that GZ is not of stable mind, and may believe things that may not have happened. Better people than me have some really good things to say about Mark O'Mara but they have to explain away some things. . |
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| kbp | Jun 7 2012, 01:09 PM Post #18 |
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..all merely for the sake of discussion! |
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| Mason | Jun 7 2012, 01:15 PM Post #19 |
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. Kbp, Aren't they in a battle for the hearts and minds of prospective jurors? . |
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| LTC8K6 | Jun 7 2012, 01:48 PM Post #20 |
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Well, Mo'm said his motion would be filed well before the 29th, and that should give us more clues. |
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| kbp | Jun 7 2012, 02:36 PM Post #21 |
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That's the battle I believe OMara plans on letting time cure, if the case makes it that far. He'll have 6+ months to feed motions and make statements to counter the Crump / Corey team in the minds of potential jurors. We have the bond hearing and, most likely, the SYG hearing before a trial is even a sure thing. OMara is certainly not perfect, but I do not judge him as harshly as others. I think his biggest error would be based on the idea OMara should have known about the web page GZ had up for donations. I wonder if GZ withheld or lied to OMara if the man actually did ask GZ about it. |
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| diet_dr_pepper | Jun 7 2012, 02:52 PM Post #22 |
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I have to agree with what kbp said at post #16. Afterall, George and his wife did not tell the whole truth at the bond hearing. Maybe GZ thought being truthful to the PD did him no favors so why be truthful about other things, but he should have told his lawyer what he actually knew before that bond hearing. Keeping lies straight is hard IMO. |
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| Baldo | Jun 7 2012, 02:55 PM Post #23 |
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I think this bond "issue" is sort of silly. O'Mara is clearly fighting against a stack deck. I really don't know the inside scoop & I suspect there is a lot of it. |
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| Mason | Jun 7 2012, 03:21 PM Post #24 |
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. It's very, very difficult to change minds once they're made up. And, of course, I don't know if I feel comfortable wating to see a different Mark O'Mara, maybe only to find there isn't one. This is my best imitation of O'Mara: My Client CLAIMs to not be a Murderer but he has lost all credibility and let me remind you that even though some of the Medical evidence could've been construed as helping him, a full 2/3rd's of the evidence has yet to be revealed. So don't go getting any ideas he may be innocent. Did I say Innocent, I don't like to say that word, but don't get getting any ideas that he may be not guilty because there's plenty of evidence that's probably going to nail him to the wall. . Edited by Mason, Jun 7 2012, 03:21 PM.
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| Deleted User | Jun 7 2012, 03:30 PM Post #25 |
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I suppose every trial lawyer has developed their own style having practiced as long as O'Mara. At this point it's safe to say he's no Joe Cheshire. However, it's too early not to give him the benefit of the doubt. He knows the courthouse crowd better than we do at this point. As the old saying goes, when your hand is in the mouth of a lion, you pull it out as gently as you can. |
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| kbp | Jun 7 2012, 03:50 PM Post #26 |
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Five days ago GZ was not in jail and 99% of everything discussed here related to why he should not have been arrested, why the probable cause is not worthy, why he should easily win immunity in a SYG hearing, and why a trial would be a predetermined verdict should it somehow make it that far. The furthest thing from my mind was worrying about how potential jurors might read between the lines if a trial does come about. The next step is getting GZ back out of jail, so the false information GZ helped to supply the judge regarding his need for the state to cover all legal costs and set bonding at some level he could work with, needs to be addressed without upsetting the one who decides if GZ gets back out. The most prominent thing on my mind about the case is how they'll please the judge to get bonded out of jail. I'll admit my train of thoughts do not indicate I have any long-term strategic planning going on here ...in addition to also being wrong on where I thought this case looked like it was headed when Mason first told me where it was going! |
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