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| kbp | May 21 2012, 08:56 AM Post #16 |
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The kid struck me as actually being very sharp. He did not allow the teacher to redirect him away from his question. He asked a question and knew that is NOT a statement, though he seemed to understand the teacher would take it as one. He responded to her new topics and always brought it back to that question. Though it was only an audio, I sensed that the kid was laughing at the teacher to set the trap ...and she lost it, falling into the trap. I suspect this young man would make one helluva blogger! ********************* DP'04: ...getting schooled should never be mistaken for getting educated I like that wording, "getting" gets the message across well there! |
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| MikeZPU | May 21 2012, 10:16 AM Post #17 |
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It's the top story at foxnews' home page right now: http://www.foxnews.com/ http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/05/21/nc-teacher-captured-on-video-suggesting-student-could-be-arrested-for-obama/ Edited by MikeZPU, May 21 2012, 10:16 AM.
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| kbp | May 21 2012, 10:20 AM Post #18 |
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It made Drudge also. That school administration will be busy this week! Maybe they can just tell everyone they're busy getting ready for the DNC convention, taking off early for the summer! |
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| cks | May 21 2012, 11:52 AM Post #19 |
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What more can one say? I for one would be interested in the following: 1. What institution of higher learning awarded this teacher a degree? 2. What exactly is her social studies training - any US history courses, what sort of grades did she earn? 3. What does her daily instruction entail? 4. Why does a school allow a teacher to preach her own political philosophy? There is the constant complaint that schools cannot get good teachers. Blame the unions who have enshrined incompetence; blame the budget wizards who would rather get several fresh out of college teachers rather than pay for someone with expereince and knowledge. Then of course, in history, if one coaches - all the better. I recently interviewed for a new position (teaching AP government and college prep government and American history). The school wanted to hire me but they wanted me to take a $14,000.00 pay cut (this was a Catholic school in the same archdiocese in which I currently work). Of course, they could get away with that because there is no union (as Mr. cks likes to point out to me, former union organizer that he once was - in a much earlier life - there are some good points about unions). Needless to say, though I may be unhappy with my current position, I can ill afford to take that large a pay cut - particularly when my pension (such as it is) is based on an average of my first five years and last five years (which is my situation now) of employment. When I read about teachers such as this Rowan-Salisbury teachers, it makes my blood boil that such a person not only has been hired but that is allowed to continue to teach. But then again, if the Superintendent of that system viewed the exchange as a "learning experience" (for whom exactly????), that speaks volumes as to what level of scholarship and adherence to the law exists in that corner of the educational world. |
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| kbp | May 21 2012, 12:33 PM Post #20 |
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North Rowan teacher suspended I guess making national headlines at Fox and the Drudge is also a "learning experience"! Lesson learned: ban cell phones from classrooms! Edited by kbp, May 21 2012, 12:35 PM.
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| Duke parent 2004 | May 21 2012, 01:11 PM Post #21 |
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There are folks still walking among us who remember the turf wars that occasioned the introduction of "social studies" into the curriculum.. Many of the traditionalists argued that such studies would devolve into superficial treatments of current affairs, that journalism would replace historical scholarship, and that—not having the perspective and better information that the mere passage of time lends to historical studies—the promoters and teachers of social studies would be far more likely to inject their own politics and preferences into classrooms than would teachers talking about the Crusades or America in the colonial period.. Even before social studies won that battle many historians and teachers of history contended that history courses themselves should stop at least fifty years short of our own time, that any loss of "immediacy" would be more than counterbalanced by greater objectivity—an objectivity that, though never more than an ideal, would be far less vulnerable to current preoccupations and prejudices than would be classroom discussions of, say, the place of Sarah Palin in the modern Republican Party. How quaint that controversy sounds today in a world in which the ignorance of many teachers is exceeded only by their arrogance in displaying it. |
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| cks | May 21 2012, 01:34 PM Post #22 |
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DP - so true. As I like to tell my students when we study the Enlightenment, the social sciences (aka social studies) consist of four areas - two of which originated in the Enlightenment (the dismal science of economics and political science) and two in the latter part of the 19th century (sociology and psychology). I ask them if they see history listed as one of those four...then I remind them of the question I posed early in the academic year - when did the study of history (as a discipline) originate? Of course, they reply with those two great Greeks - Herodotus and Thucydides. They then get it when I say that although the school lists the course that I teach (world history) as a course in the social science department, it is not a social science just as I am not a social scientist - rather, the course they have been taking all year is history; I am a historian; and they have been learning to think like historians. I do believe that historians who teach those events through which they themselves lived must do so with a great amount of caution. It is far too easy to let one's feelings hold sway and thus influence how one's students view those events. My students often ask me my opinion about one event (cureent) or another - I tell them that my political views have no place in the classroom and that therefore I will not discuss politics, the current state of the world, etc. I had a teacher in high school (Aaron Ranner) - my freshman ancient history teacher - who held to that standard and though my classmates and I tried every which way to get him to talk about current events - he held firm. When I started my career, I decided that his was a wise example to follow. It is too bad that this NC teacher did nothave such an example to emulate. I guess that the Rowan-Salisbury school district is having its own learning experience as a result of this teacher's political advocacy. Beside delving into political affairs and displaying her ignorance, one has to ask why she had so litttle control of her class that a student could whip out a cell phone and record the class. Edited by cks, May 21 2012, 01:35 PM.
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| I'mstillaRebel | May 21 2012, 01:59 PM Post #23 |
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A question for my fellow Bloog Hooligans--were you ever in your life in a classroom that sounded like that? he jeering, the total lack of control of the students, and the shocking lack of self control of the teacher. Did you ever have a teacher scream in a classroom like this one did repeatedly? Did you ever witness a teacher with such shocking ignorance on display? This tape is going to open a lot of eyes as to what level the public school system in our country has fallen. Thanks to the students who made the recording. They did the right thing. |
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| Deleted User | May 21 2012, 02:03 PM Post #24 |
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Isn't it terrible that when you defend your right to an opinion, you must first issue a caveat that you are not racist. |
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| Deleted User | May 21 2012, 02:13 PM Post #25 |
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Suspended with Pay. That's what she would prefer anyway. |
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| kbp | May 21 2012, 02:32 PM Post #26 |
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It was the students friend that recorded the exchange. i wonder if he has had any troubles from it? |
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| Mason | May 21 2012, 03:14 PM Post #27 |
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. SUSPENDED WITH PAY We call that a Vacation around here. . |
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| cks | May 21 2012, 04:23 PM Post #28 |
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Suspended with pay because there will have to be a hearing to determine if indeed her actions violated any code of conduct as laid out in the teachers' handbook (or whatever the addendum to the contract that covers all employees of the district). This close to the end of the school year, the teacher is probably happy not to have to be in what is obviously an out of control classroom and to be free from planning exams or end of year activities (of course, the students are literally screwed as they could have someone making their exams over material not covered, etc. - but then again, it doesn't seem as if what is best for the students is the real concern of the teacher or the district - given their initial reaction to the teacher's actions). Do classes like that exist - absolutely - I have taught in schools where that happens. In my own school it always amazes me how lippy some students are (the very same students that I teach) to some of my colleagues in the classroom. But it all boils down to whether or not the teacher has control of his/her classroom AND whether or not the teacher is a master of the subject that he or she teaches. Obviously, this particular teacher has neither control nor mastery of material. Again, I wonder from where she graduated. Perhaps from Crystal's alma mater or perhaps from UNC - in African-American studies? |
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| chatham | May 21 2012, 04:54 PM Post #29 |
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I doubt she graduated from either institution. But it may surprise you where she actually did get her education when (if) that ever comes out. Many schools recruit idiots like her for statistical purposes. |
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| 2close2durham | May 21 2012, 04:57 PM Post #30 |
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Miss Dixon ..... is a 1982 graduate of Salisbury High School. She attended North Carolina Central University in Durham. (from her wedding announcement in The Dispatch June 16, 1988) Are we surprised? Another fine example off the Crystal Mangum school of excellence. LOL! |
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