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| agatha | Sep 9 2011, 07:55 PM Post #136 |
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I like him, but I can only take so much of him. Is he better than he is on TV? |
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| kbp | Sep 9 2011, 08:25 PM Post #137 |
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Agatha, yes. He is not challenged by others when just doing what resembles a 'fireside chat'. ************** http://news.yahoo.com/house-gop-pledges-speedy-review-job-proposals-212053221.html ...The White House is not expected to present Congress with formal legislation until the week after next, when the president outlines additional proposals to offset the cost of his tax cuts and new spending. Additionally, Democratic officials said the White House wanted to allow time for Obama to make the case publicly for his program before formal debate begins in Congress. The president is expected to fly to Ohio and North Carolina next week for appearances along the same lines as the one he made in Richmond — House Majority Leader Eric Cantor's district — on Friday. Nor is it clear what role a newly appointed debt reduction committee might play in considering Obama's proposals. That panel began work on Thursday and is charged with producing legislation by Nov. 23 that includes a net reduction of at least $1.2 trillion on deficits over the next 10 years. (he's already 'taking it to the people, select people anyway) |
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| Baldo | Sep 10 2011, 01:24 AM Post #138 |
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Glad to be of service! I do understand what you mean about Morris. He has, rightly or wrongly. an appearance of swarmyness about himself. He was a long time political consultant to Bill Clinton from Arkansas to the White House. However I have taken to reading his comments more often. He is very knowledgeable about the inside world of politics and understands political history. In the end it is the data that counts and he is more right than wrong IMHO. |
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| Baldo | Sep 10 2011, 08:06 AM Post #139 |
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Palin: Obama "Plays Us All For Fools" "What he needs to do is explain to the American people how incurring more debt will get us out of debt. It’s kind of unfortunate. He kind of plays us all for fools," Fmr. Gov. Sarah Palin said. Video http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2011/09/09/palin_obama_plays_us_all_for_fools.html |
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| Baldo | Sep 10 2011, 08:20 AM Post #140 |
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Krauthammer Struck By Obama's "Abuse Of Majesty" Of A Joint Session On Special Report's Lightning Round, panelists gave their two cents on President Obama's Jobs Speech. Charles Krauthammer said it is "ironic and a contradiction" that Obama would give a speech on jobs while at the same time he is "destroying jobs or threatening them" with regulations. "It is also ironic and a contradiction. Here he is giving a speech last night to throw another half a trillion dollars at jobs and his agencies are running around destroying their jobs or threatening them with that ruling on Boeing. With the ruling from the EPA, essentially shutting down oil exploration, that attempted to shut down part of the coal industry. A regulation that was suspended," Krauthammer saido. When asked for his response on the joint address, Charles Krauthammer said he was struck by Obama's "abuse of the majesty" of the setting of the joint address of Congress. Other Presidents used this setting to declare war, while President Obama used it as a "kickoff of his own reelection campaign." "What struck me is his abuse of the majesty of that setting. A joint address of Congress is something FDR did on the day after Pearl Harbor to ask for a declaration of war on imperial Japan It's a place for LBJ who asked for a Civil Rights Act. Here a place where Obama used its kickoff for his own reelection campaign. Quite a difference," Krauthammer said Video http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2011/09/10/krauthammer_struck_by_obamas_abuse_of_majesty_of_a_joint_session.html |
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| Kerri P. | Sep 10 2011, 08:24 AM Post #141 |
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http://www.wral.com/news/political/story/10112173/ Obama jobs plan heartens frustrated blacks Posted: 4:13 a.m. today Updated: 4:21 a.m. today ATLANTA — President Barack Obama's jobs pitch is already playing well with blacks, who had grown plenty irked with him over what they perceived as his indifference to their needs. A day after Obama laid out before Congress his plan to kick-start job growth, many blacks hoped it would translate into reduced misery for them over the coming months. While the country's unemployment rate stands at 9.1 percent, black unemployment has hit 16.7 percent, the highest since 1984. Unemployment among male blacks is at 18 percent, and black teens are unemployed at a rate of 46.5 percent. The early signs of their reaction were positive. Social media sites were abuzz with highlights from the president's plan. Amid the comments were excited responses to the proposal, especially from the black community. Twitter was full of similar bursts of excitement over the plan, with some black Tweeters defending the president and applauding his message. One user tweeted: "Taking a sharp tone 'cause the NumbersDontLie! Pass this bill and put America back to work." Prominent African-Americans like Kenneth Chenault, chairman and CEO of American Express and Michael Nutter, mayor of Philadelphia, quickly applauded the plan. Rep. Maxine Waters, D-Calif., has been one of the most vocal advocates for dealing more effectively with black unemployment, but she was enthusiastic. For the president, it was a welcome change in tone after a steady drumbeat of criticism from members of the Congressional Black Caucus, who held their own job fairs and town hall meetings while protesting that Obama's jobs tour across America last month bypassed black communities. The caucus' urban blitz cleared a path for the country's first black president to act, Waters said. "I can see that our handprint is all over it," Waters said of Obama's plan. "We upped the ante a little bit by pushing, being a bit more vocal. This was not done in a way to threaten the president but to make it easier for him. We think we helped him to be able to formulate a response." snip.... Administration officials said the plan would extend unemployment benefits and provide support for 1.4 million blacks who have been unemployed six months or longer. It also would provide summer and subsidized jobs for youth, help boost the paychecks of 20 million black workers through an extension and expansion of the payroll tax, and benefit, in some way, more than 100,000 black-owned small businesses. snip.... Edited by Kerri P., Sep 10 2011, 08:26 AM.
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| Baldo | Sep 10 2011, 08:27 AM Post #142 |
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Obama TV ratings drop for jobs speech President Obama’s jobs speech represented the lowest ratings he’s received for any address to a joint session of Congress of his presidency. The speech garnered 31.5 million viewers, according to the website TVbythenumbers, which was slightly lower than his Sept. 2009 health care speech to Congress, which drew 32.1 million viewers and is probably the fairest comparison. But viewed against other addresses to Congress, it looks worse, and is part of a broader downward trend. During his first speech to a joint session of Congress in February 2009, Obama drew 52.4 million viewers. His first official State of the Union Address on January 2010 drew 48 million viewers and this year’s SOTU had 42.8 million....snipped http://campaign2012.washingtonexaminer.com/blogs/power-rankings/obama-tv-ratings-drop-joint-session-speech |
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| Baldo | Sep 10 2011, 09:18 AM Post #143 |
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Obama Using “Jobs” Plan to Pay for Campaigning This is really so annoying. Obama is campaigning on your dime again. Ostensibly, he’s headed out into the hinterland to “discuss the bipartisan proposals to grow the economy and create jobs as part of the American Jobs Act he unveiled in an address to a joint session of Congress on Thursday,” as the White House puts it. But really he’s using this new “jobs” bill as an excuse to campaign in key swing states. Since the travel is billed as “official business,” taxpayers pick up the tab. So all expenses get added to the national debt. The SOJA – or the Save Obama’s Job Act, aka The American Jobs Act – now serves two main purposes: to put Republicans on the spot to support the bill or risk being stigmatized by Obama as job killers; and to help the president reach voters. It’s effect on the economy will be marginal at best. Today, Obama appeared in Virginia, flying to Richmond, the “Dixie” part of the state where he needs votes to add to the majorities he’ll likely get in Northern Virginia, which is demographically part of the Northeast. On Tuesday he’s off to Columbus, Ohio, supposedly again to urge congressional action on his proposals. And, the White House just announced, he’ll be in the Raleigh-Durham area Wednesday, Virginia + Ohio + North Carolina = 46 electoral votes Obama desperately needs in states where the presidential hand to hand combat will be brutal. http://www.whitehousedossier.com/2011/09/09/obama-jobs-plan-pay-campaigning/ |
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| Kerri P. | Sep 10 2011, 09:30 AM Post #144 |
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I can tell you from the comments I read in the WRAL and the NC newspapers papers. Only a handful of people want to see owebama here in NC. Most of the people commenting just want him to stay in Washington. |
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| cks | Sep 10 2011, 09:37 AM Post #145 |
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I would agree about Morris. He is smarminess personified. But, he has an understanding of politics that trumps just about everyone else out there. As you say, he is more often right than wrong. I think that Doug Schoen is often spot on as well. Pat Caddell is able to explain the politics of polling also. This is the reason why FOX, overall, IMHO runs rings around the other media outlets in their broadcasts. They are willing to have people of all different backgrounds and political persuasions and treat them with dignity. The analysis delivered is trenchant and more often than not thought provoking - which is what it should be. |
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| Deleted User | Sep 10 2011, 10:24 AM Post #146 |
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If you want to rate people on the smarmey index, I would put Bob Beckel right up there at the top of the list. |
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| cks | Sep 10 2011, 11:02 AM Post #147 |
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Bob Beckel is nowhere near as smarmy as Morris - Beckel is more of an a*& wipe - which is about as low as one can go. Wipes have no distinguishing characteristics while a*& holes at least vary in appearance. |
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| kbp | Sep 10 2011, 11:45 AM Post #148 |
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The GOP is playing the 'open arms' card well, while Obama is already playing the 'take it to the people' strategy. If we skip the idea that this "plan" is merely a means to fabricate some blame issue for the campaign, the position of the majority of the people then becomes a problem. The mid-term election led up to efforts all poliliticians know they must face, that over-spending problem. The debt ceiling agreement has approximately $2 trillion in total cuts (maybe some tax if the "committee" could agree on it). The "baseline" BS they use has about a $2 trillion annual budget increase 10 years from now. I do not recall what the total increase was for the entire "baseline" over that 10 year span, but it seems like the total of each years increase added up was near $6-7 trillion, so they have some room to hide more artificial spending cuts. One problem, besides the idea that future bidgets would follow this deficit reduction plan, is it starts to look silly when ALL cuts are in the far away future ...with exception few a few billion here & there along the way. The bigger problem for politicians is the increase to next years deficit. So far we have the spotlight on $450+ billion to create jobs and a promise that it's 'paid for'. Eventually, in the very near future, somebody has to make the public aware of what it does to the deficit for next year. In my mind it is political suicide to increase the deficit, especially after the people just showed us on 11/6/2010 where they stood on thhe overspending issue. The challenge in 'taking it to the people' does not look like it can provide much 15+ months away from the election. The GOP may be doing the best thing possible by playing along until reality sinks in. |
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| Mason | Sep 10 2011, 11:55 AM Post #149 |
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. One good thing - it does seem more and more people are getting it. Less and less people are under Zero's spell too. I just hear more people saying that temp Gov't jobs are not going to be the answer. . |
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| kbp | Sep 10 2011, 12:31 PM Post #150 |
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7 minute Video: "...pass it right this MINUTE" "...this minute" ...but, it's not ready yet ... Even if we give him a pass on believing the Stimulus would do the job, the writing was on the wall that the people were not happy with what 2009 produced - deficit and rebound not much better than we'd have had doing nothing. Then 2010 gives us no reduction in unemployment and a clear signal from the people. That election message came TEN MONTHS AGO! Now, after preaching off and on about jobs, then finally even telling us he was busy putting together a "plan", a few vactions and months later he is still WITHOUT a plan completed yet. To top all of that, I suspect this "plan" will be absent details on HOW the Congress is to come up with the appropraitions to cover the costs! Side note: Maddow words it like the GOP's plan is to completely end Medicare, so Jarrett then gets to paint Obama as the savior for it ...he's only tweaking it to save it from those wealthy GOP'ers! |
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