| Obama Puts Joint-Session Jobs Speech Against Republican Debate; Post Paristan President Strikes again! | |
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| kbp | Sep 1 2011, 03:39 PM Post #46 |
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I'll give Mike credit for best photo of the first 32 months of Obama's term ...the entire term if one better doesn't pop up! |
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| Kerri P. | Sep 1 2011, 05:25 PM Post #47 |
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http://www.wral.com/business/story/10077734/ Dems want Obama's job speech to contrast with GOP Posted: 3:01 a.m. today WASHINGTON — The tiff over the timing of President Barack Obama's jobs speech to Congress offers little hope that Republicans and the White House will now find common ground on how to reduce the nation's painfully high unemployment. In fact, some Democrats say it's time Obama stopped trying so hard to negotiate. On matters large and small, Obama has yielded to House Speaker John Boehner in a string of concessions that have unnerved Democrats and emboldened Republicans. A chorus of Democratic voices is now demanding that the president abandon his attempts at being a compromiser and instead lay out an ideological vision that distinguishes him from Republicans and becomes a template for his re-election. Obama had asked Congress to convene a joint session next Wednesday so he could announce his jobs agenda. Boehner objected, telling the president it would be better if he came the next night. Republicans were irritated that Obama wanted to speak at the same time Republican presidential candidates would be debating in California — and sharing TV time with him. In the end, Obama accepted Boehner's invitation to speak at 7 p.m. EDT next Thursday, early enough to avoid yet another conflict — with the opening game of the National Football League season. Obama must create a clear contrast between what he wants and what the Republicans want, Simon Rosenberg, president of the liberal-leaning think tank NDN, wrote this week. "If the president is to win the election next year, he will have to first win the economic debate with the Republicans, something, to date, he has not done." snip.... |
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| kbp | Sep 1 2011, 06:10 PM Post #48 |
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"...something, to date, he has not done." That would be 32 months "to date", so far, and 75% of that time the only "economic debate" he had was with himself (24 months). He didn't win those either! Edited by kbp, Sep 1 2011, 06:13 PM.
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| Deleted User | Sep 1 2011, 06:53 PM Post #49 |
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Let me post this photo once again. This should be the way all Republicans run their campaigns in the 2012. We are not trying to defeat Obama, he is trying to defeat us. Republicans should change their attitude and conduct the campaign as thought they are the ones to defeat. I love this photo. Great job, Mike. |
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| Baldo | Sep 2 2011, 11:57 AM Post #50 |
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So the date wasn’t a coincidence – W.H. furious over speech delay It seemed like a trivial matter: On Wednesday, House Republicans forced the president to delay his speech to a joint session of Congress by one day. Who cares? The White House cares. Very much. “It is a big deal that the House said ‘no’ to the president from our end,” a White House source with intimate knowledge of what took place between the House and the president told me Thursday. “This confirms what we all know: They will do anything in the House to muck us up.” On Wednesday, the White House staff did not know exactly what President Barack Obama was going to say in his major jobs speech, but it knew exactly where and when he was going to say it. The location would be before a joint session of Congress in the august marble-clad chamber of the House of Representatives. And the speech would be next Wednesday night, when the House returned from vacation, and there would be maximum TV viewership. The speech would be dignified, sober and important. But the planning turned out to be a mess, a mess that illuminates just how hyper-partisan politics have become on Capitol Hill at exactly the time Obama is calling for bipartisanship. The White House was well aware the president’s speech would conflict with a planned Republican debate sponsored by POLITICO and NBC to be held at the Ronald Reagan Presidential Library in Simi Valley, Calif. The debate would be broadcast live by MSNBC and live-streamed by POLITICO. CNBC and Telemundo will re-air the broadcast. Yet the White House did not see this as an obstacle. “With all due respect, the POLITICO-MSNBC debate was one that was going on a cable station,” the White House source said. “It was not sacrosanct. We knew they would push it back and then there would be a GOP debate totally trashing the president. So it wasn’t all an upside for us.” And, at first, things seemed to fall into place. At about 10 or 10:30 a.m. on Wednesday, White House chief of staff Bill Daley called House Speaker John Boehner and asked that a joint session of Congress be assembled the following Wednesday night. The White House viewed Boehner as a political opponent, but not an enemy and the call was cordial, even pro forma considering such a request had never before been refused. And, according to the White House source, Boehner said “okay” to Daley’s request for the Wednesday evening date. (Asked for comment, Boehner’s press secretary, Brendan Buck, said he had nothing to add to his statement of Wednesday that read in part: “No one in the speaker’s office - not the speaker, not any staff - signed off on the date the White House announced today.”) Then things quickly unraveled. It turned out not everyone was as sanguine as Boehner with the notion that a Democratic president was going to step on a Republican debate. At 11:55 a.m. Wednesday, the White House tweeted the news about the joint session. “And then Rush Limbaugh beat Boehner up,” the source said. The conservative talk show personality was in his familiar state of high dudgeon. “This is a pure campaign speech and to give it the imprimatur of a speech before a joint session of Congress, there’s no way, he doesn’t deserve that,” Limbaugh said. “Boehner’s got to say no. Now, whether he will, I have no clue.” A number of Republicans in the House and a few in the Senate did have a clue and they told Boehner that while they would allow the joint session – it was hard not to for both historic and political reasons – the timing had to be on their terms, which meant it could not conflict with the Republican debate. At which point Boehner’s office announced that Boehner had never agreed to the Wednesday date, that Congress did not get back into session until 6:30 p.m. on that day, that various votes had to be taken, that security had to be arranged and Obama should push his speech back a day to Thursday. Which just happened to be the evening the Green Bay Packers were meeting the New Orleans Saints in the NFL season opener. Which meant Obama would have to move his speech up an hour or so before the kick-off at 8:30 p.m. The White House was not pleased. In reality, it believed, Congress really had never gone out of session, a parliamentary move that blocked Obama from making recess appointments. “And they had to arrange security?” the White House source scoffed. “As if they couldn’t do that! This was a political thing, a tea party thing, a Rush Limbaugh thing. They were all giving Boehner gas.” The White House did not want to give in and look weak, but what was the alternative?...snipped http://dyn.politico.com/printstory.cfm?uuid=040BF8AD-4589-47E9-94B0-AA7E9B68390E They got caught trying to make a political point & in truth el Rushbo chopped them off at the knees! |
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| kbp | Sep 2 2011, 02:47 PM Post #51 |
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They had to know the answer would be NO, there was no chance it would be accepted by 100% of the Rep's. Note they claim the pre-planned debate could be moved to suit them and then whine about moving the timing of his speech. "...the White House source said. “It was not sacrosanct. We knew they would push it back and then there would be a GOP debate totally trashing the president. Where's the PLAN? Why isn't anyone asking for a formal, written plan that they can get to work on, have for consideration in an effort to FINALLY address the JOBS? Edited by kbp, Sep 2 2011, 02:51 PM.
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| Kerri P. | Sep 5 2011, 04:25 PM Post #52 |
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http://www.wral.com/business/story/10089283/ US Chamber spells out its own job agenda Posted: 3:00 p.m. today Updated: 3:10 p.m. today WASHINGTON — Putting a business imprint on the debate over jobs, the U.S. Chamber of Commerce on Monday issued an open letter to Congress and to the White House calling for a series of measures designed to increase employment, including greater oil drilling, quicker road and bridge construction and temporary corporate tax breaks. If enacted, the chamber estimates the steps could encourage corporations to spend much of the nearly $2 trillion dollars that have accumulated on their balance sheets and generate more than 6 million jobs by 2013, and even more in ensuing years. The chamber is looking to influence job creation proposals just days after a bleak government employment report showed no net job growth in August and four days before President Barack Obama delivers an economic speech to a joint session of Congress. Chamber proposals on trade and infrastructure are sure to overlap with some Obama administration initiatives. Others, such as the corporate tax breaks and oil drilling, are more certain to win Republican support. Chamber President Thomas Donohue released the seven-page letter as the first step in a campaign to draw attention to the chamber's proposals and influence Washington policymakers. The effort includes newspaper and Internet ads and outreach to chamber members nationwide. The campaign will encourage business leaders across the country to contact members of Congress and the White House to prod them into passing job creation legislation. Chances that the president and congressional Republicans can reach any kind of deal appear to be a longshot amid a partisan environment and testy relations. "We're having a bunch of problems right now, but when we get done fooling around and decide what we're going to do, we're going to do it, and this is a good start," Donohue said in an interview. "We're interested to listen to other ideas that meet the same criteria: Quick, fast, workable, and not costing new money." While Obama's plan will include infrastructure spending, including possibly billions for school construction, it also is expected to propose renewing a payroll tax cut, extending jobless benefits and providing payroll tax credits to businesses that expand their hiring. Donohue identified six job creating initiatives: snip..... |
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| kbp | Sep 6 2011, 02:08 PM Post #53 |
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Relates to this speech ...speech v. written plan!
I wonder if any will say they're waiting for the WRITTEN plan Congress may consider in any rebuttal after the speech. That's an open-ended approach, short of any commitment to approve a plan if he by some chance writes one. |
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| kbp | Sep 6 2011, 03:12 PM Post #54 |
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Obama has really been playing up this "jobs plan" ...er, speech, and DEMANDING the GOP to set aside politics and accept the "jobs plan" ...er, speech before it is even presented. Now the GOP asks for a friendly get-together BEFORE the speech, which seems to appear more proactive on jobs than just giving a speech others MUST follow! IOW; 'Mr. President, our door is open, lets see your plan' Edited by kbp, Sep 6 2011, 03:13 PM.
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| Baldo | Sep 6 2011, 03:42 PM Post #55 |
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Being a skeptic of his administration I have little hope for Obama's jobs plan.There will be a few things to agree upon, but I believe Detroit's speech was the real strategy. Class Warfare to get re-elected IMHO Obama would have to admit his first 2 1/2 years were spent going the wrong direction. He won't. Perhaps he will throw in some fresh meat for his friends, the crony Capitalists, a little more pork for his buddies in the "Green" Industry, some payouts to the States in terms of teacher's salaries, "invest" in education by a school infrastructure programs, etc etc etc. He will proposed an extension to the payroll tax cut-back, but not tell everyone that means less Social Security for your eventual benefit. There will be talk of entitlement reform but we all know his Simpson Boles Commission went no where because he didn't want to apply their recommendations. I suspect some sort of "tax reform" which will be meaningless and can't be passed. Then there will be a streamlining addressed towards removing some mandates/regulations. It will be a lie. They will just wait until reelection & put the screws to us in 2013. It will be all fluff, aimed at appealing to his based and trying to shift the blame on the Republicans when objections to the actual specifics go to Congress as the Republicans demand actually appropriation hearings. The MSNBC Cheerleaders will hail the Address as Epic, Bold, a true Vision for the USA California Gov Jerry Brown said yesterday he wants a Really Big Stimulus Bill to send money to the states. I think the talking point memo is already out there. The only thing which will improved jobs dramatically is to boot Obama, Biden, and the Progressives out of Congress . Get them out out of Power. Then replace them with people who really want to make America great & not line their pockets. That's the hard part. Oh BTW I will tivo it and be watching the Opening of NFL Football. It will be a lot better! Edited by Baldo, Sep 6 2011, 03:48 PM.
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| kbp | Sep 6 2011, 03:49 PM Post #56 |
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Since we MUST read between the lines on all politics, I'm wondering if this "payroll tax cut-back" could be leading up to employers carrying a heavier load permanently. |
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| Baldo | Sep 6 2011, 03:53 PM Post #57 |
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Good Point! |
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| kbp | Sep 6 2011, 08:27 PM Post #58 |
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Obama to propose $300 billion to jump-start jobs |
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| LTC8K6 | Sep 6 2011, 08:30 PM Post #59 |
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Assistant to The Devil Himself
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How can he propose tax cuts now? |
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| Mason | Sep 6 2011, 11:14 PM Post #60 |
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. The Speech was written by Jon Favreau - and Obama will claim that this latest spending program is Paid-for. It won't cost us anything. More Freebies. Weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee . Edited by Mason, Sep 6 2011, 11:18 PM.
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