| Woman Steals another woman's baby, Murders; SECOND WOMAN STABBED BY SAME WOMAN? | |
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| Topic Started: Jul 18 2008, 09:44 PM (643 Views) | |
| Deleted User | Jul 18 2008, 09:44 PM Post #1 |
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. I am interested to see how much play this gets. Looks like this same woman stabbed another woman in the Past in an attempt to Murder and steal the Baby! She ONLY got 10 years PROBATION! GRETA DIDN'T HAVE IT ON. Cops: Body at home of woman who claimed baby buy By DAN NEPHIN, Associates Press WriterFri Jul 18, 7:36 PM ET A body with its hands bound was found Friday at the apartment of a woman who showed up at a hospital with a newborn she falsely claimed was her child but later said she had obtained for $1,000, authorities said. The body was found in the home of 38-year-old Andrea Curry-Demus, police said. Authorities would not say whether it was male or female. Wilkinsburg Police Chief Ophelia Coleman said the body was found lying face down. She said she didn't know how long it had been there. Police visited the building Thursday night but did not go into that apartment, Coleman said. Instead, a relative of Curry-Demus led them to another apartment, she said. Earlier Friday, police said they were concerned that the infant's real mother — described as a thin, black female in her 20s or 30s named Tina — might be in danger, or need medical attention. The description was provided by Curry-Demus but authorities aren't sure how reliable it is because she "has a history of emotional problems," Coleman said earlier Friday. Curry-Demus pleaded guilty in 1991 to aggravated assault after stabbing a Wilkinsburg woman in an alleged plot to steal the woman's infant. Curry-Demus, then known as Andrea Curry, was sentenced to 10 years' probation. Allegheny County homicide detectives have taken over the investigation, but Allegheny County Police Assistant Superintendent James Morton declined to comment at the scene Friday night. The mystery started when Curry-Demus showed up at West Penn Hospital in Pittsburgh on Thursday with a newborn baby, police said. Tests later proved she was not the mother — despite her claims to the contrary, police said. Curry-Demus was arraigned Friday on a child endangerment charge and jailed until she posts $10,000 bond and undergoes a psychiatric exam. "I didn't do nothing," Curry-Demus told reporters as she was put into a police car Thursday. The baby's umbilical cord was still attached when Curry-Demus arrived at West Penn, but tests proved she was not the mother — despite her claims to the contrary, police said. Curry-Demus then told police she miscarried in June and didn't want to upset her own mother by telling her she had lost the baby. Curry-Demus said she befriended a pregnant woman and discussed buying her child when it was born, according to the criminal complaint. Curry-Demus told police she paid a woman named Tina $1,000 for the baby, but authorities have said they don't know how she got the baby. http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080718/ap_on_re_us/baby_mystery;_ylt=Ah2MVQxEkzFF012ULzGfV_VH2ocA . |
 
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| Deleted User | Jul 19 2008, 04:24 AM Post #2 |
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Tony - this will probably not the be the most f'ed up thing happening in Wilkinsburg this week. The former "City of Churches" is likely braced for something like an 8 year old victim, or an 8 year old offender. The Pittsburgh area has had some crazy crimes recently. 12 and 14 yos shooting or being shot in the streets. It's not what I saw in my first crack epidemic years in DC, but the burgh has to clamp down some. When I was a kid, we walked down the hill to the North Side, went to the gym, and took the bus back up the hill (it was a big hill, no one ever walked UP the hill). Bus fare was 20 cents, but we knew you could get away with ten by dropping two nickels in instead of two dimes. And yes, while I did this, I was 7. An extra dime for baseball cards, which Mom eventually threw away. Different times. I was 7, and permitted to walk to the North Side, hang at the bus stop, wait for the bus, take the bus home, and walk the rest of the way back. Today I'd be strapped in a car seat until I was 10. |
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| joan foster | Jul 19 2008, 05:23 AM Post #3 |
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I understand..Duke84...all too well. The pretty little town I grew up in the NY area is now essentially an armed camp. It really is sad...especially for those who remain. |
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| Jezebelle | Jul 19 2008, 05:24 AM Post #4 |
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I think it's that way for all of us. Kids' lives have not changed for the better. We played hide 'n seek all over the neighborhood. Anyone's garage, side yard, tool shed, etc., was fair game for hiding. Can you imagine that now? Maybe there are still some such neighborhoods, but it's not the norm. That's too bad about your baseball cards. |
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| Deleted User | Jul 19 2008, 05:36 AM Post #5 |
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What's worse is that my grandmom did the same thing to my Dad - whose 30's and 40's cards could have bought us a house a whole lot better than one of the ones we ended up in. |
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| joan foster | Jul 19 2008, 05:44 AM Post #6 |
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My husband's family is very proud (rightfully) of their family antiques. My Mother used to mutter to me.."WE had that too.... and that ...but I threw it out." 
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| Deleted User | Jul 19 2008, 05:57 AM Post #7 |
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When I was 5 or 6, we used to take trips with Mom into Northview Heights - which might be as bad a project as Pittsburgh has. It really wasn't that far away, and it had an old age apt. building, where my aunt's mother-in-law lived. Seriously - we drove there to deliver pie to my mom's sister's mother in law. I mean, shouldn't there be a rule against that? And I was the oldest of three. Which means Mom carted a 6, 5 and 3 year old through the projects to deliver a couple pies (being oldest, I got to carry a pie). The only supermarket in the projects was a mobile Piggly Wiggly bus, which was better than we had - since kids from the projects robbed the Acme so many times that they closed down. Sometimes there's a reason you end up growing up in the suburbs. Mom and Dad - both city kids - didn't take to it at first - but living on a 1/2 acre was like a farm to me. |
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| Deleted User | Jul 19 2008, 06:10 AM Post #8 |
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http://www.postgazette.com/pg/08201/898097-56.stm Body found in suspect's apartment Woman jailed after claiming she purchased baby Saturday, July 19, 2008 By Sadie Gurman and Jerome L. Sherman, Pittsburgh Post-Gazette Rebecca Droke/Post-Gazette Wilkinsburg and Allegheny County police officers stand outside the apartment of Andrea Curry-Demus in Wilkinsburg yesterday.The case of a woman who showed up at a hospital with a newborn baby that was not hers took a macabre twist yesterday, when police found a body in the woman's Wilkinsburg apartment. Police were investigating the possibility that the dead woman was the mother of the infant boy who was brought to West Penn Hospital on Wednesday by Andrea Curry-Demus, 38, of Wilkinsburg. Ms. Curry-Demus, who initially claimed she had given birth to the child, was in the Allegheny County Jail yesterday facing child endangerment charges. Meanwhile, news reporters who visited her apartment building at 495 Ella St. notified police of a foul smell and swarms of flies in the apartment's windows. When Wilkinsburg police arrived, they found the body of a black woman in the bedroom, face down and bound at the wrists with duct tape, Police Chief Ophelia Coleman said. County Medical Examiner Karl Williams said the victim had been dead for at least 24 hours. "There was some blood around the scene where she was, and that's all we know at this point," he said. He said it was not yet known whether the victim had been pregnant, and her identity had not been confirmed. As investigators entered the apartment last night, a crowd of 40 to 50 people, many acquainted with Ms. Curry-Demus, gathered outside. Many had believed Ms. Curry-Demus' claim that she had been pregnant. "This is all too much mystery for me. I can't even believe somebody could deceive you that long," said close friend and neighbor Ivee Blunt. Also at the scene were relatives of two missing pregnant women, wondering if their loved one was the victim. After her initial story was discredited, Ms. Curry-Demus told police that she had paid $1,000 to a woman named "Tina" for her infant boy, who still had his umbilical cord attached. Ms. Curry-Demus recently married Raymond Demus Jr., according to neighbors on Ella Street. She had no children, they said. She and her husband have extensive criminal histories and both were in the county jail yesterday. Ms. Curry-Demus has tried to kidnap babies in the past. Mr. Demus is facing rape charges. He is accused of molesting the daughter of his former girlfriend. In late June, Ms. Curry-Demus' mother hosted a baby shower at her Ella Street home. Dozens of neighbors and friends attended, giving Ms. Curry-Demus baby clothes and other gifts. She later told police she had a miscarriage around the same time and she "flushed it" at her nearby apartment, according to a criminal complaint. Worried about upsetting her mother, Ms. Curry-Demus approached a pregnant woman named Tina about purchasing her unborn child. She gave her $500, clothes and personal items, the complaint said. A few weeks later, Ms. Curry-Demus gave Tina another $500. On Wednesday, the woman came to Ms. Curry-Demus' apartment with her newborn baby wrapped in a towel, the complaint said. Ms. Curry-Demus then called for medical assistance around 10:45 a.m., and she told the paramedics who arrived that she was the mother. They took her and the baby to West Penn Hospital in Bloomfield. Doctors there examined Ms. Curry-Demus and determined she wasn't the newborn's mother. Officials at the hospital called police around 1 p.m. on Thursday. City detectives then turned the investigation over to Wilkinsburg police. In 1990, Ms. Curry-Demus pleaded guilty to aggravated assault after stabbing a Wilkinsburg woman in an alleged plot to steal her infant. One day after she stabbed the woman, Ms. Curry abducted a different 3-week-old baby from her room in Children's Hospital. A few hours later police found Ms. Curry at her home with the child, who was fine. In 2004 and 2006, Ms. Curry pleaded guilty to retail theft charges. Her husband, Mr. Demus, 40, has a history of arrests that includes charges for firearms violations, assault, arson and drugs. Last month, he was arrested and accused of routinely molesting a girl in North Braddock from 1997 to 2003, starting when she was in kindergarten, according to a criminal complaint. In March, the girl told an Allegheny County police detective that Mr. Demus would often abuse her in her mother's bedroom while he watched pornographic videos, the complaint said. Now 15, the girl recently told her mother, Mr. Demus' former girlfriend, about the alleged abuse. On June 25, Mr. Demus was held for trial on 10 charges, including two counts of rape, two counts of statutory sexual assault and one count of corruption of minors. "Neither she nor her husband should be allowed back in this area," Shatera Jackson, 22, who lives on Ella Street with her two young children, said yesterday afternoon as she and three other women sat across from Ms. Curry-Demus' mother's house. All had attended the June baby shower. They said the woman's mother had left the decorations up until Wednesday. But yesterday, a streamer and the outline of a pair of baby feet hanging from a wooden post on the house's front porch were all that remained. |
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| Deleted User | Jul 19 2008, 12:07 PM Post #9 |
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. Is this Media going to cover this with the same vigor as other stories? They should be printing the name and picture of that Judge that only gave this woman probation for her first stabbing attack on a pregnant woman. That Judge should be followed with a Video camera and he should be asked the tough, but obvious questions. It didn't register with me that this was close to Pittsburgh. . |
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| Deleted User | Jul 19 2008, 06:38 PM Post #10 |
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Woman found dead partially eviscerated, medical examiner says Saturday, July 19, 2008 By Jerome Sherman, Pittsburgh Post-Gazette By Jerome L. Sherman A woman who was found dead in a Wilkinsburg apartment yesterday afternoon had her abdomen cut open and plastic taped across her face, according to the Allegheny County medical examiner's office. The woman has not yet been identified; the medical examiner's office is awaiting dental records to make the identification. Nor has her exact cause of death been determined, but Medical Examiner Dr. Karl Williams said today that it has been ruled a homicide. Wilkinsburg police discovered the dead woman in the Ella street apartment of Andrea Curry-Demus, who had been arrested Thursday after showing up at West Penn Hospital in Bloomfield with a newborn baby and falsely claiming to be the mother. She later told police that she bought the baby from a woman named "Tina" for $1,000. Ms. Curry-Demus is being held at the Allegheny County Jail on child endangerment charges. The woman discovered in Ms. Curry-Demus' apartment was in a "state of moderate decomposition" and appeared to have been dead for at least two days, the medical examiner's office said in a press release today. Her face was covered with "a plastic material" secured by duct tape and her hands and feet were bound with duct tape, the release said. There was evidence of "partial evisceration," in which the woman's abdomen had been sliced open, apparently in order to remove the baby. Investigators also recovered a placenta from the apartment. The medical examiner's office is working with Allegheny County police homicide investigators to determine the woman's cause of death. Authorities have narrowed the possible victims to two or three women from the area who are missing and were in advanced stages of pregnancy, Dr. Williams said at a press conference this afternoon. Dr. Williams said that there is a possibility that the woman was drugged, because there were no signs of resistance. He said there were drugs found at the scene, but did not specify what type of drugs. |
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| Deleted User | Jul 19 2008, 06:45 PM Post #11 |
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Tony - It borders the city on the east, next to Homewood - which is truly hell with the lid off. Lots of gunfire in Homewood, Wilkinsburg, and my native North Side this year. This obviously isn't a gun crime, but there has been a whole lot of senseless crime in the Pittsburgh area in the past year or so. I also think this might be the second "woman steals baby" story out of Western PA in recent history. |
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| Jezebelle | Jul 19 2008, 07:17 PM Post #12 |
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D84, is there any speculation locally as to why she (may have) killed the pregnant woman and taken the baby? Does she want the baby for herself or does she want to sell babies? |
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| Deleted User | Jul 19 2008, 08:55 PM Post #13 |
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. I think, just from reading, that she wants the baby - not to sell it. This story is horrifying to me. Why isn't Greta and Grace, and Larry King camped around this area reporting on this story? Why don't we know the name of the Judge? This woman got probation for stabbing a pregnant woman! I can't get over that. |
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| Deleted User | Jul 19 2008, 09:04 PM Post #14 |
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. Geraldo has two hours on National TV this weekend - and he's not covering the story either. Gotta wonder. |
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| Deleted User | Jul 20 2008, 12:15 AM Post #15 |
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Dead mom is identified Sunday, July 20, 2008 By Jerome L. Sherman, Pittsburgh Post-Gazette A woman who was found dead in a Wilkinsburg apartment had been sliced open in the abdomen with a "sharp weapon," the Allegheny County medical examiner's office said yesterday. Her hands were bound behind her back with duct tape as were her feet. The badly decomposed body of Kia Johnson, along with a placenta, was discovered Friday afternoon in the apartment of Andrea Curry-Demus, 38, who on Wednesday had appeared at West Penn Hospital with a newborn baby whom she falsely claimed to be her own. Ms. Johnson, who was described as about 20 years old, 5 feet, 1 inch tall and weighing between 110 and 120 pounds, was identified by the medical examiner's office late last night. The exact cause of death has not been determined, but during a press conference yesterday afternoon, Medical Examiner Dr. Karl Williams said, "Clearly, it is a homicide." The baby, a boy, had a low heart rate and a low temperature when Ms. Curry-Demus brought him to the hospital, Dr. Williams said. But he recovered quickly. He is still at the hospital. Ms. Curry-Demus, who told police that she bought the baby from a woman named "Tina" for $1,000, has been arrested and charged with endangering the welfare of a child. She's being held at the Allegheny County Jail. Ms. Curry-Demus likely will face more charges as the police investigation progresses, county police Assistant Superintendent Jim Morton said. Mr. Morton confirmed the victim wasn't Tina Carter, a pregnant woman whose family lives near Ms. Curry-Demus. Her relatives had expressed concern to police and the news media on Friday night, but she has since been in contact with them. Ms. Johnson's body had already started to decompose when found by police. She appeared to have been dead for at least two days, Dr. Williams said yesterday. Dr. Williams said that there was a possibility that Ms. Johnson was drugged, because there were no signs of resistance. He said there were drugs found at the scene, but did not identify them. The medical examiner's office has completed an autopsy and was awaiting toxicology results to learn what type of chemicals may have been in the woman's system and her exact time of death. Ms. Curry-Demus, who is scheduled to undergo a psychiatric evaluation at the county jail, has a lengthy criminal history. In May 1990, when she was 20 years old and living in Garfield, Ms. Curry-Demus stabbed a Wilkinsburg woman in an alleged plot to steal her infant. The next day, Ms. Curry-Demus abducted a different baby, 3-week-old Shaquala Coleman of Highland Park, from a room in Children's Hospital. A few hours later police found Ms. Curry-Demus at her home with the child, who was fine. She later pleaded guilty to aggravated assault. Ms. Curry-Demus recently married Raymond Demus, who is now in jail on rape charges. Last month, her mother hosted a baby shower for her at an Ella Street home, and dozens of friends, neighbors and relatives gave her gifts. Decorations were still hanging from the home's front porch as recently as Friday. Neighbors said they had been convinced Ms. Curry-Demus was pregnant. Doctors at West Penn, however, determined the woman couldn't have given birth after paramedics brought her in with the newborn on Wednesday. She told Wilkinsburg police she had a miscarriage in June and didn't want to upset her mother. She then struck a deal with the woman named "Tina," saying the woman had dropped off the newborn in a towel on Wednesday. Police searched the wrong apartment at 495 Ella St. on Thursday. They returned the next day to search another apartment in the building after receiving complaints. |
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