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| foxglove | Jun 7 2011, 10:02 AM Post #271 |
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Schumer's take on all this is important and speaks to hypocrisy. http://www.nytimes.com/2011/06/08/us/politics/08colleagues.html?amp "In the Senate, Republicans went after Mr. Weiner’s political mentor, Senator Charles E. Schumer of New York, noting that Mr. Schumer had defended him in the early days of the controversy. “Given Senator Schumer’s firm defense of Mr. Weiner, we look forward to hearing what the senator has to say now,” said Brian Walsh, a spokesman for the Republican Senatorial Campaign Committee. “Does Senator Schumer believe no ethics rules were broken?” Mr. Schumer issued his own statement late Monday saying he was “deeply pained and saddened” by the day’s news. “By fully explaining himself, apologizing to all he hurt and taking full responsibility for his wrongful actions, Anthony did the right thing,” Mr. Schumer said. “He remains a talented and committed public servant, and I pray he and his family can get through these difficult times ..." IIRC, when this story first broke and before Weiner's press conference yesterday, Schumer said Weiner had integrity. (Weiner was a aide to Schumer in the past). Schumer's comment above states that Weiner fully explained himself, which I doubt. I think back to the Congressional hearing on the Waco incident. As I recall, Congressman Bill McCollum from Florida held the hearings to find out the government's involvement in the deaths of David Koresh and his followers. http://articles.orlandosentinel.com/1995-07-19/news/9507190402_1_mccollum-branch-davidians-waco "Mccollum Defends Role Heading Waco Hearing He Says The Hearing Is Informational. Critics Say It's Just A Partisan Hit Job On President Clinton. July 19, 1995|By Craig Crawford Washington Bureau Rep. Bill McCollum steps into a partisan slugfest today, heading a congressional investigation into the 1993 raid on the Waco, Texas, religious compound. The Longwood Republican dismisses increasingly shrill Democratic claims that this week's House hearing amounts to a partisan hit job on President Clinton. ''I have the sense the American people haven't heard the whole Waco story, and we need to tell it openly and chronologically,'' McCollum said. He insists the hearing is merely ''informational.'' McCollum's critics disagree. ''It is appeasement for the Republican Party's right-wing crazies,'' said Rep. Barney Frank, D-Mass. The 1993 standoff between federal agents and Branch Davidian leader David Koresh claimed 91 lives, including 25 children and four law-enforcement agents. It started when the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms raided the compound suspecting weapons violations. It ended 51 days later in an FBI assault and a fiery death for those inside. Some Democrats say McCollum is fronting for pro-gun lobbyists. Noting his committee staff hired National Rifle Association consultants, they see an effort to discredit the Waco raid as an unconstitutional assault on the right to own weapons. ''The scent of the NRA has lingered around these hearings for a while, and now we've found a skunk,'' said Rep. Charles Schumer, D-N.Y. He is calling for a separate investigation into the hiring of NRA weapons experts for a congressional hearing. McCollum denies undue NRA influence. He said shortly after the Waco tragedy that he told Attorney General Janet Reno and FBI director Louis Freeh he wanted a hearing because he thought ''everybody was aghast over this and wanted to know why did we do this.'' The eight-day hearing will be conducted by the Judiciary subcommittee on crime that McCollum chairs and the Government Reform and Oversight subcommittee on national security. The exhaustive questioning plays to McCollum's expertise in law enforcement, crime and terrorism. McCollum also is getting a great deal of media attention. Last week he appeared on ABC's Nightline. Today he is scheduled to appear on the morning news programs of the three major networks. And tonight he is set for CNN's Crossfire. The Waco hearing will focus on two questions: Did federal agents use excessive force against legally armed citizens? Or did they act in self-defense while justifiably trying to arrest the Branch Davidians? ..." Schumer, as the ranking Democrat on the committee, seemed to want thwart the investigation of any government or Clinton administration wrongdoing, IMO. The most sensational witness to appear at the hearings was a teenage girl who testified that Koresh had engaged in under age sex with her. (There were some reports later that this testimony was untrue). But the testimony successfully demonized Koresh to the extent that the onus was taken off what was, perhaps, government malfeasance or negligence in the death of Koresh and his followers. At least this was my take on things, as I watched some of the hearings and as I recall. http://articles.orlandosentinel.com/1995-07-25/news/9507250415_1_testimony-waco-koresh "Mccollum Responds To Clinton The Longwood Republican Accused The President Of Trivializing The Congressional Waco Hearings. July 25, 1995|By Craig Crawford Washington Bureau Rep. Bill McCollum reacted bitterly to President Clinton on Monday, accusing him and other Democrats of trying to ''ridicule, trivialize and discredit'' the congressional hearings into the Waco tragedy. The Longwood Republican, who is overseeing the House inquiry, complained that Democrats are using cult leader David Koresh's ''moral atrocities'' against children to somehow justify the botched federal raid near Waco, Texas, in 1993. Clinton earlier accused the GOP of making ''war on the police'' to please pro-gun lobbyists. ''There is no moral equivalency'' between Koresh's ''disgusting'' behavior and any mistakes made by agents who targeted the cult leader for harboring illegal weapons, Clinton told a gathering of police officers late last week. ''It is irresponsible for people in elected positions to suggest that the police are some sort of armed bureaucracy acting on private grudges and hidden agendas,'' Clinton said. McCollum's answer to the president came at the start of Monday's hearing, highlighted by the testimony of undercover agent Robert Rodriguez. The agent spent most of the day repeating his 1994 testimony about his warnings to supervisors that Koresh knew the federal raid team was coming to storm his compound. The ensuing battle in 1993 killed four agents of the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms and six Branch Davidians, beginning a two-month federal siege of the cult's compound. Republicans hope to show this week - possibly with Attorney General Janet Reno's testimony - that Clinton or his inner circle rushed the FBI to end the 51-day Waco siege because it had become embarrassing to the Administration. The FBI assault on the compound ended in the fiery death of 81 Davidians. ''We will ask whether the attorney general was pressured by the White House to end the siege,'' said Waco hearing co-chairman Bill Zeliff, R-N.H. So far, the Democrats have managed to distract attention from the Republican agenda. Last week, they arranged what became the hearing's most compelling testimony, a 14-year-old girl's claims that Koresh raped her. Before testimony resumed on Monday, McCollum said he would write Clinton a letter asking him to tell his staff to tone down its efforts at damage control. ''Frankly, I suspect that they just don't want the public to take notice of the testimony that is coming out,'' McCollum said." That Koresh was accused of being a sexual pervert took the focus off the government's and particularly the Clinton Administration's role in what happened to the Branch Davidians at Waco. Weiner's sexual "pranks" likely are not of the same degree of sexual pathology as Koresh, but his behavior should not get a pass from anyone, especially ones who might have used the alleged sexual pathology of Koresh to soft pedal the government's involvement at Waco. Janet's Reno's excuse about saving the children from Koresh doesn't seem plausible since so many children died in the inferno of the Waco compound. Trying to find out what happened at the Congressional hearings seemed to be overwhelmed by the demonization of Koresh, IMO. |
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| kbp | Jun 7 2011, 10:26 AM Post #272 |
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We've all been guessing that his "PR team" handled the message the Seattle student put out. An observation of the overall damage; the far left media that came to his rescue is now the headline target as much as Weiner is. They're STUCK with their own digital problems, those records that last forever. |
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| Kerri P. | Jun 7 2011, 11:06 AM Post #273 |
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http://www.wral.com/news/political/story/9694640/ GOP chairman demands Weiner resign Posted: 3:06 a.m. today Updated: 19 minutes ago WASHINGTON — The chairman of the Republican party says Rep. Anthony Weiner should resign after admitting he sent a lewd photo of himself on Twitter to a woman and then lied about it repeatedly. Reince Priebus says in a statement that either House Democratic leader Nancy Pelosi and Democratic chairwoman Debbie Wasserman Schultz believe that members of Congress are held to a different standard, or they believe the congressman's actions demand his departure from the House. The Democratic National Committee did not have an immediate comment. The National Republican Congressional Committee also seized on the Weiner scandal as a 2012 campaign issue, issuing press releases calling on more than a dozen House Democrats to return campaign contributions from Weiner. snip..... |
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| longstop | Jun 7 2011, 11:23 AM Post #274 |
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The Other McCain's take on little Tony. Great Song from Kitty Wells and lyrics. ‘Too Many Times, Married Men Think They’re Still Single …’ http://theothermccain.com/2011/06/07/too-many-times-married-men-think-theyre-still-single/ |
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| Baldo | Jun 7 2011, 02:11 PM Post #275 |
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Listening to the Left Coast radio it seems the Dems are upset with Weiner, but not ready to dump him. The Talking point seems to be it is a private matter, he is a creep for doing this, but he didn’t break any law. So that is the moral leadership being displayed. It speaks for itself. Of course how do you know he didn’t break any laws is my response. There hasn't been any investigation. Me thinks there is more slime than what we know. |
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| Deleted User | Jun 7 2011, 03:05 PM Post #276 |
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Are there laws covering porn use in social networks? Maybe he is guilty of disseminating porn to underage users. |
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| chatham | Jun 7 2011, 03:08 PM Post #277 |
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Can he use his staff (no pun intended) to help out one of his twits? |
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| Baldo | Jun 7 2011, 03:24 PM Post #278 |
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I listened to the Press Conference and one of the questions asked was if any of the woman were underage. Humm, makes one think some in the Press might suspect something? I am just guessing here, but my understanding of Human Behavior indicates to me maybe there is more of a story behind all of this. |
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| Baldo | Jun 7 2011, 03:51 PM Post #279 |
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Matt Damon Hasn’t Given Up on Anthony Weiner As originally reported by the Daily News, actor and progressive activist Matt Damon was scheduled to host a fund-raiser for Congressman Anthony Weiner on June 20 at Almond Restaurant, with tickets ranging from $250 to $10,000 a pop. Then yesterday happened. "It’s going to be postponed now because of all this," Damon told us at the Made in NY Awards at Gracie Mansion last night . But Damon hasn't given up on Weiner just yet. "Look, I really support his politics," he told us. "Anybody who fights for the working class and the middle class, I’ll help in any way I can." http://nymag.com/daily/intel/2011/06/matt_damons_fundraiser_for_ant.html |
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| Mason | Jun 7 2011, 04:12 PM Post #280 |
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. These points need to be covered by the MSM: Weiner gave up no more than what they told him they had on him - and that they were going forward with or without his comment. Weiner's behavior is really close to Predator behavior. He was following High School girls, in some cases, that listed Married Men as interests. He was also interested in girls in their early 20's whose pages were filled with pictures of themselves at 16 and 17. DEATH THREATS - Death Threats came from the Left to those that were being fingered for hacking the Good Congressman. The Good Congressman and his staff claiming to be victims pointed them that way, too. As Kbp mentioned, there was a concerted effort to form a conspiracy to Lie and obstruct Justice - and keep the heat on the innocents getting the Death Threats. The Press is not Covering that Weiner claimed this was the End of the World: Obamacare under attack, Debt Limit being falsely manipulated by unscrupulous Politicans, and he claimed other Scandals that Weiner needed to uncover - as part of the Right-Wing Conspiracy to get him. The truth was, all those Great Pressing Issues were teetering - and Weiner was taking pictures of his Penis and having Phone and Computer sex. Isn't there a list of people under suppposed Ethics charges in Congress? Jesse Jackson, Jr. and so forth and so on? Wasn't Obama going to target and Focus on Waste and Fraud in Government? What does a future Representative Anthony Weiner (continuing on) say about that objective and goal? . Edited by Mason, Jun 7 2011, 04:14 PM.
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| Kerri P. | Jun 7 2011, 04:23 PM Post #281 |
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http://www.wral.com/news/political/story/9697364/ Democrats decline to defend Weiner after scandal Posted: 3:06 a.m. today WASHINGTON — Fellow Democrats pointedly refused to defend Rep. Anthony Weiner on Tuesday, telegraphing an unmistakable eagerness for him to resign after he admitted sending a lewd photo of himself to a woman via Twitter and lying about it. Republicans swiftly sought political profit from the New York Democrat's predicament, which threatened to deepen when conservative blogger Andrew Breitbart said he had a sexually explicit photo of the 46-year-old congressman. His political career in extreme jeopardy, Weiner had no public appearances. His spokesman did not respond to repeated requests for comment. On Monday, after days of denials, the New York lawmaker admitted he had engaged in "several inappropriate conversations conducted over Twitter, Facebook, email and occasionally on the phone with women I had met online." Alternately apologetic and defiant, he said he neither met nor had physical relationships with any of them, and added, "I am not resigning." In fact, there is little that party leaders can do to force an errant lawmaker to quit, although House Republicans have moved decisively in the past year to purge their ranks of two members of their own rank and file caught in embarrassing situations. Most Democrats maintained an uncomfortable silence during the day on Weiner's future, part of what several senior congressional officials described as a hope that over a few days, Weiner would reconsider his refusal to resign. snip.... Edited by Kerri P., Jun 7 2011, 04:25 PM.
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| Deleted User | Jun 7 2011, 08:06 PM Post #282 |
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Big Government.com should go ahead and release the most damaging photos and get this mess over with. Yes, it will be hurtful to his family, but I suspect that his wife knew that much of this kind of stuff was in his past when she married him. Weiner even said she knew that he was sending these messages before their marriage. If his wife took that gamble, then she needs to understand she lost the bet. Chances are she has advised him on how to cover it up. Her Clinton experience has not gone unnoticed. What's one more damning picture? Release it and let him resign! |
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| agatha | Jun 7 2011, 08:15 PM Post #283 |
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I was reading the latest thread at Free Republic and the word is one photo involves an act of contortion. X-rated Weiner Transcripts..... If true and it was sent via the internet, he belongs in jail. |
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| Mason | Jun 7 2011, 09:11 PM Post #284 |
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. As some of us strongly suspected, Weiner offered to provide the exact statement for the girls to provide the News Media. We know this from the Porn Star via TMZ. He told her he could provide her PR help from his team and said he provide her the exact statement to give the media - and he said, believe me, they will believe it's the Truth. We knew that statement from Seattle was crafted. . |
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| Baldo | Jun 7 2011, 09:33 PM Post #285 |
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MSNBC’s Cenk Uygur Defends Weiner: “He Lied, So What? You Know How Many Times I Lied To Ex-Girlfriends?”… CENK UYGUR: When you get into some sort of sexual issue whether it’s the sexting or whether it was Bill Clinton with the intern, you know what you do? You lie, okay? Nobody comes out and says, “Oh, by the way, I’d like to tell you all the terrible things that I’ve done sexually,” okay? Nobody in the history of mankind has ever done that, okay? So, I mean, he lied. So what? You know how many times when I was single, and I had girlfriends, you know how many times I lied to them? Okay? What does that make me not responsible on any other issue? http://www.mrctv.org/videos/msnbcs-uygur-weiner-you-know-how-many-times-i-lied-girlfriends Where does MSNBC find this cretans? Well he is actually Turkish and a very progressive attorney Edited by Baldo, Jun 7 2011, 09:34 PM.
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