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Obama's Address about Israeli Palestine Conflict; Wants return to 1967 Israeli Border
Topic Started: May 18 2011, 08:35 PM (4,420 Views)
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tl-GHERR9hM

Zero saying Jerusalem will be the capital of Israel and the city should not be split...

Also that it's not the job of the US to dictate...
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It was a big error to mention the '67 lines. If he wanted to get into the fine details, he should not have skipped all the other conditions related to it.

Oh well, it wasn't his first mistake and won't be his last. I still think the House should jump on this opportunity.
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Former Israeli Ambassador Reacts to Obama Speech: "This is a Radical Shift in U.S. Policy Towards Israel...The 1967 Lines Are Not Defensible"
Dore Gold, the Former Amb. to the UN says "Frankly, the 1967 lines are not defensible. Israel today is 45 miles wide, you put us back to the 1967 lines, we are 8 miles wide. The state of Israel can't be defended with those dimensions." This ambassador says the old 1967 lines put Jerusalem out of Israel

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DGKdJbJgcXE&feature=player_embedded


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LTC8K6
May 19 2011, 09:11 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tl-GHERR9hM

Zero saying Jerusalem will be the capital of Israel and the city should not be split...

Also that it's not the job of the US to dictate...
That was from when he was a candidate in 2008.

He would have never won the nomination nor the election if Democrats who supported Israel knew what he was going to do.
Edited by Baldo, May 19 2011, 09:33 PM.
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Benjamin "Bibi" Netanyahu vs Barack Hussein Obama

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At 19 Bibi joined the Israeli Defense Forces in 1967 where he served as a commander in the elite Sayeret Matkal commando unit, taking part in many missions including the hostages rescue mission from the hijacked Sabena Flight 571 in 1972 (coincidentally under the leadership of Ehud Barak). He fought in the Yom Kippur War in 1973 and achieved the rank of captain before being discharged. After his army service Netanyahu returned to the United States, studied and earned a B.S. degree in architecture from the Massachusetts Institute of Technology, in 1975 a M.S. degree from the MIT Sloan School of Management in 1977, and studied political science at Harvard University and MIT.

Ar 19 Barack was smoking dope in an Occidental college dorm and headed to Columbia then on to Harvard Law School. He went on to become a community organizer.

Who would you want protecting your country?

BTW Bibi's brother Yonatan "Yoni" Netanyahu was commander of the elite Israeli army commando unit Sayeret Matkal. He was killed in action during Operation Entebbe in Uganda.
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Good stuff from Powerline:

http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2011/05/029062.php
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Facebook Groups Call for Mass Invasion of Israel on Friday
by Phyllis Chesler - Posted on May 19 2011 10:06 am
Phyllis Chesler is an Emerita Professor of Psychology and Women's Studies at City University of New York.

My nightmares—what I knew could happen—is apparently happening.

The Third Palestinian Intifada on Facebook seems to have at least twenty different groups or pages, each with hundreds or thousands of fans. One group has 365,000 fans. According to Yedioth Ahronoth (YNet), these sites are now urging all Arabs to “rush the Israeli borders” after Friday prayers on May 20.

Look: This could be the work of one nerdy Palestinian in a basement in Ramallah. The fans could also be people who exist only in cyberspace.

But, these Third Palestinian Intifada websites could also be the work of the Muslim Brotherhood, Hamas, Hizbullah, Syria, and the Palestinian Authority, all of which have problems of their own and for whom a diversion would be mighty fine. In fact, I think they are. Thus, this promised new aggression must be taken seriously and stopped in its tracks.


In any event, these Third Intifada facebook websites are suggesting that armed and unarmed hordes, masses, mobs of incited and hate-filled Arabs invade–“surge”–into sovereign Israel (as they have done for years to India.) The Indian press and police are too afraid to report it or to stop them. Israelis have no choice but to do so.

If and when they re-create their failed Nakba Day aggression, public opinion, the Arab “street,” the Arab League, the world’s intellectuals, journalists and progressives, the human rights organizations and the jihadist friendly United Nations, will probably view such an invasion as an act of “righteous resistance” and Israeli self-defense as an act of “unprovoked aggression.”

Facebook, to its credit, has removed one Third Palestinian Intifada site in the past. Clearly, others quickly sprang up, and Facebook has its work cut out for it. Just as the Civil Rights movement in America was initially and brilliantly non-violent, perhaps all the earth’s peace-loving people might now congregate peacefully on all of Israel’s borders to be the human wall that finally says no to jihadic barbarism....snipped


http://www.newsrealblog.com/2011/05/19/facebook-groups-call-for-mass-invasion-of-israel-on-friday/

Let's see if anything develops?
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LTC8K6
May 19 2011, 09:43 PM
Zer0 is an enemy of the US, first and foremost. For reasons that I do not completely understand, enemies of the US also tend to hate Jews; among the modern fig leafs for antisemitism are "support for the rights of the Palestinians", "need for a Palestinian homeland", and a whole bunch of such "humanitarian" concerns. It is easier to understand why anti-Semites also tend to hate the US...

But if as a result of this disgrace the Jews in the US abandon the Democratic party - it was worth it! And in the meantime, Israelis have nukes (and many other kinds of nasty devices), and will not retreat to the '67 borders (or anywhere else!) just because someone named Hussein told them to.
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O's kowtowing to the muslims is not going to work. Why can't he understand that they just want more and more and more? I hope he doesn't get us into a world war.

And I hope Bibi sits him down tomorrow and gives O a little Israel/Palestinian history.


Arabs See Obama Speech as Late, Not Enough

http://www.newsmax.com/InsideCover/arabs-obama-speech-borders/2011/05/19/id/397052

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Reflecting that disillusion, Egyptian activist Hossam El-Hamalawy wrote on social media site Twitter: "Obama gave a speech? Really? As if I care".

Arab analysts said Obama's words were impressive but came largely too late and reflected U.S. fears of the consequences of uprisings without guidance from the West.

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Analysts suggested U.S. aid will have strings attached on foreign policy. "What Obama didn't talk about today: aid conditionality," wrote Shadi Hamid of the Brookings Centre in Qatar on Twitter.

"My prediction on Obama's speech: Arab leaders won't like it much. Arab reformers won't like it much," Hamid said. "This is the Obama style: Try to appeal to everyone and end up disappointing everyone."


All that aid money (that we don't have) thrown over to the ME and they don't appreciate a darn thing. When are the Republicans going to educate the American people about where our money is going? Obviously people either don't know or don't care.







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How much more can we take of Obama?
Edited by Baldo, May 20 2011, 12:23 AM.
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May 20 2011, 12:22 AM
How much more can we take of Obama?
In the long run, we will outlive him (and a dozen more like him), repair the damage, and then there is something Churchill said about the sunlit uplands... Locally, he is pretty intolerable - and he is trying to destroy as many of our allies as possible. Let us pray for the 2012. :angel:
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Sorry if this has already been posted.

Obama has Fundraiser planned to hit-up Jewish Donors

http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2011/05/19/obama-to-court-jewish-donors-at-june-fund-raiser/

Krauthammer on FOX stated that Obama has not asked for one single concession from the Palestinians during his time in office.


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Edited by Mason, May 20 2011, 05:45 AM.
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MSNBC host says Obama leaned too far toward Israel in speech...

One wonders what wouldn't have been too far?

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Perhaps we shouldn't be too surprised, but at MSNBC, Obama was actually criticized last night . . . for not being hard enough on Israel. Cenk Uygur said "the president's speech was too much leaning towards Israel."


http://newsbusters.org/blogs/mark-finkelstein/2011/05/20/msnbc-host-uygur-obama-speech-leaning-too-much-towards-israel
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May 19 2011, 11:31 PM
O's kowtowing to the muslims is not going to work. Why can't he understand that they just want more and more and more? I hope he doesn't get us into a world war.

And I hope Bibi sits him down tomorrow and gives O a little Israel/Palestinian history.


Arabs See Obama Speech as Late, Not Enough

http://www.newsmax.com/InsideCover/arabs-obama-speech-borders/2011/05/19/id/397052

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Reflecting that disillusion, Egyptian activist Hossam El-Hamalawy wrote on social media site Twitter: "Obama gave a speech? Really? As if I care".

Arab analysts said Obama's words were impressive but came largely too late and reflected U.S. fears of the consequences of uprisings without guidance from the West.

-snip-

Analysts suggested U.S. aid will have strings attached on foreign policy. "What Obama didn't talk about today: aid conditionality," wrote Shadi Hamid of the Brookings Centre in Qatar on Twitter.

"My prediction on Obama's speech: Arab leaders won't like it much. Arab reformers won't like it much," Hamid said. "This is the Obama style: Try to appeal to everyone and end up disappointing everyone."


All that aid money (that we don't have) thrown over to the ME and they don't appreciate a darn thing. When are the Republicans going to educate the American people about where our money is going? Obviously people either don't know or don't care.







Interesting how NO single reporter wanted their name on that article!


"...Obama talked of women's rights, in apparent reference to Saudi Arabia, but said democracy did not have to resemble the system in the United States, an apparent concession to Saudi arguments that it is an Islamic state ruling by sharia law."


The battles don't look like one for democracy to me, it seems to be more for which spiritual leader is the one to follow, which tends to disrupt the tribal leadership IF they're not the leader of choice for whatever group is frisky enough to protest on a given day.

All the polling we've seen has the "democracy" of Egypt (and Libya) headed towards following sharia law, we're just not certain who will be the 'leader of the day' for those follwers (and Google is not the source to search out that answer).

Obama is 0 for 2 in the Israeli / Palestian negotiations, about 0 for 6 overall in the Mideast, and it looks like he wants to spend a few billion more (and tons of grain!) for a 3rd crack at it ...his international stimulus!

He should have just left ALL of his messages general and open-ended. That '67 borders issue might have been okay, but it appears he also needed to add a detail or two more to also show that there would be a trade off involved for any concessions Israel must give in to that could bring about Obama's idea of Mideast peace.

On a related topic, the press seems to be finding quite a few sources here in the US that make it look like much of the Jewish population in this country still supports Obama, while ALL from Israel seem to be just the opposite. Is that a result of the 'victimology' we see in this nation?
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http://www.wral.com/business/story/9623357/
NC unemployment rate stays at 9.7% but job picture mixed
Posted: 10:24 a.m. today
Updated: 54 minutes ago

The state’s unemployment rate remained at 9.7 percent for the second consecutive month in April, the N.C. Employment Security Commission reported Friday. But while the jobless rate has declined 1.4 percentage points from a year ago, the number of people working is up only slightly.

The private sector did add 2,900 non-farm jobs over the course of the month, based on a survey of employers.

The trade, transportation and utilities sector alone added 2,700 jobs, but those were offset by a 2,300 drop in government jobs.

Unemployment a year ago stood at 11.1 percent.

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