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| Joan Foster | Apr 27 2011, 07:09 PM Post #76 |
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Alas..."once bitten twice shy." The day I saw Dave Evans speak of "fantastic lies", I could never have credited a conspiracy theory involving a then-respected Durham D.A.....the faculty and leadership of Duke University...a respected DNA lab...veteran police officers...the NCNAAP ( which ranked in my HERO category up to that point.) I mean...how far-fetched is that? I would never have thought that the media would reinvent the scourge of my military-wife days, John ("officers are slaughtering civilians on a daily basis") Freaking Liar Kerry..as some Band of Brothers Hero. "This is John Kerry...reporting for Duty") :The infamy of that fantasy still makes my stomach turn and my head spin. But they pushed it. Furthermore, if McCain had to prove his citizenship and Bush had to pony up his Guard records...what is so freaking special about Obama that he cannot be asked to present his records? He is not a KING ; he is a servant of the people...a government employee and he should show the citizens and voters of this country ANYTHING and EVERYTHING that others like him have produced before. The arrogance of his supporters that "he should not have been asked!" Ridiculous! AND He should have complied IMMEDIATELY. The arrogance of the man to put himself in some elite category. HE WHO MUST NOT BE QUESTIONED! If Bush showed his grades and was mocked and called "chimpy"...I want to see Obama's grades. And why should I or any voter be denied them? To spare Obama embarrassment? Was Bush spared? Cry me a river. Obama is nothing but a politician. The Left created this standard for politicans. They went full bore for 8 years. Now let us all be...consistent. And be open-minded that, in the quest for power and in the hate-lust that we observed in that 8 years, anything is truly possible. |
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| Deleted User | Apr 27 2011, 07:12 PM Post #77 |
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Sometimes we find ourselves playing in the wrong sandbox. This sandbox has some very erudite people who are not wearing tin foil hats. If you don't like the sandbox, find another one more to your liking and agenda. The above post by Kethra was totally uncalled for, sarcastic and hateful to people who don't deserve it. Calling people on this board morons rises to a level I have not seen here before.I also do not believe in the five years that I have been coming here that I have ever seen the word "god-damn" used once, let alone multiple times. Very sad indeed. |
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| Joan Foster | Apr 27 2011, 07:13 PM Post #78 |
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"This is John Kerry...reporting for Duty" You cannot imagine the affront this was to THOUSANDS of Viet Nam vets. ( and that is NO exaggeration) I have never see legions of West Pointers mobilize to bring down this LIAR who defamed them and their dead classmates. Run as what you are! To imply he was a friend to those young men that served and died or came home to be reviled because of his lies to Congress is absolute INFAMY! Now we have a politician to whom Duty is running to the Oprah show...and Honor is being so exalted in your political status that you cannot be asked for documents that YOUR PARTY demanded of others. If you want the power and glory..you serve at the will of the people. If some need the assurance of the long certificate, WHO ARE YOU to say you do not have to produce it? Edited by Joan Foster, Apr 27 2011, 07:25 PM.
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| retiredLEO | Apr 27 2011, 07:18 PM Post #79 |
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God Bless Joan, I was in the Marines when Kerry was pulling all his stunts back then, I didn't trust him then and never figured out how he got elected to the Senate. |
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| Walt-in-Durham | Apr 27 2011, 07:24 PM Post #80 |
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Bunk. Read Arkeny v. Daniels, 916 N.E.2d 678, Ind. App. trans denied. (2009) The Indiana Court of Appeals dispensed with every one of those fool arguments. It's time to stop with this. Obama is a natural born citizen. The courts have heard the arguments and rejected them. The birth certificate has been produced and Donald Trump's stature has been enhanced. To continue to argue this point simply belittles those who advance the notion that somehow Obama is not qualified to be President. He is. He's not much good at it, but if that's your point. Make it. But to continue with this birther crap is long beyond ridiculous. Everybody arguing that Obama is not a natural born citizen is sounding like Mike Nifong. Walt-in-Durham |
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| retiredLEO | Apr 27 2011, 07:31 PM Post #81 |
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Obama is looking for ways to take the wealth away from Americans that have earned that wealth, paid taxes on it and now Zero want's to take that away, as an act of fairness (redistribution). What does that teach people about earning money and setting up their own retirement. To me it means, don't do it the government will take care of you. If Obama ever figures out how to take the accumulated wealth away from the rich he will, but he will probably not touch Hollywood and his supporters. Damn that Constitution about equal treatment under the law, we need to change that. |
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| MikeZPU | Apr 27 2011, 07:41 PM Post #82 |
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As many are pointing out here, there are conspiracy theories on both sides of the political spectrum. At least the so-called "birther" issue does not ascribe evil intent on the part of Obama. No matter what the truth is, Obama had nothing to do with where he was born. Just before the Gulf War, a number of my liberal friends told me that George Bush (the father) had given Saddam Hussein the green light to invade Kuwait. Amazingly, a Democratic-controlled Congress actually investigated the ludicrous allegation and, of course, not much came out of the resulting hearings. Yet, believe it or not, even in 2011, the belief in this "conspiracy theory" still persists: http://www.presstv.com/usdetail/158465.html |
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| retiredLEO | Apr 27 2011, 07:43 PM Post #83 |
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You have to be kidding us Walt. He posted a BC and he is qualified, he went through what I did, which I posted earlier, about my BC and my birth mother. He was adopted, changed his citenship to Indonesia. You need a court order to change it back, he didn't do that. I have 2 birth certificates one says I am Joseph, the other says I am William, so who am I, Joseph or William? So am I 2 people or one person? I know who I am and what I did, perhaps I should use my other name to rip off he country or whatever other agency I feel like cheating. Perhaps I shoud have one of the two go down to the unemployment office and collect unemployment, while the other gets pension checks, sounds like a plan. Edited by retiredLEO, Apr 27 2011, 07:45 PM.
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| ~J~ is in Wonderland | Apr 27 2011, 07:49 PM Post #84 |
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I have not posted anything on this tread .......until now. A very broad brush was used up thread, I assume to include everyone, while taking Gods name in vain. I don't like that language but- I can read what I want to read and that's a choice that everyone else has here. geezzzzzz hurt feelings over a dang birth certificate???? mercy!!
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| Mason | Apr 27 2011, 07:52 PM Post #85 |
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. improbabilities - odds. Like the Odds of one finding themselves two Racist Reverends. People only want to ascribe Good to the man, that is the Truth. If Boehner repeatedly ended up in Racist Groups of his choosing, who here would overlook that and pretend it didn't happen? . |
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| retiredLEO | Apr 27 2011, 07:55 PM Post #86 |
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Who besides Kethra used God's name in vein, and that was god d##n? I didn't see any other post using God's name in vain. Kethra just seemed kind of teed off, forgive her/him. |
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| Baldo | Apr 27 2011, 08:00 PM Post #87 |
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My question still stands. Why didn't Obama release this earlier? If one actually reads my posts from the start I was never a believer in the Kenya birth theory. It never made sense for an 18 year old girl to leave her parents, her home, to go deliver a baby in 1961 Kenya with a man she wasn't married to. What I was concerned about was why wouldn't Obama & his advisers present this document 3 years ago when the first cert was presented was greeted with skepticism? I knew the smoke & mirrors his side was putting up that they couldn't present it was a lie. Today he finally presented it as each of us knew he could, if it existed. I accept this document. Was it really that hard to give it up? Even if one thinks people are neanderthals for not believing the first cert, why put the country through this when it was so easy a problem to solve? My question still exists why didn't he release this years ago when it was questioned? Especially in the last year when it was becoming a bigger issue and he could have easily diffuse it. It just doesn't make sense. |
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| Joan Foster | Apr 27 2011, 08:02 PM Post #88 |
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To you folks who responded to me, Obama NEVER made this an issue, stupid woo woo tin foil hat wearers did. He released his birth certificate, the same one that I have, that Bush has, that 90% of all people have in this country. But NO, that wasn't good enough for the woo woo morons. Why? Because "we don't like him". Good reason that. The form he released for those of you who are apparently CLUELESS about long form certificates, are folded because uh well they are long (mutters stupid morons under my breath). AFRICAN was used as a descriptor from the early 1700's until the 1980's as a descriptor of someone from, well, Africa. They are NOT negros, they are Africans. Go ask them what they call themselves. His father, since he was not a Negro (american black at the time), he was um well, African. Wow, logic shattering right? Keep over thinking the obvious since it shows nothing but absolute stupidity. Instead of assuming, which is all I am seeing happen here, DO THE RESEARCH. As a professional genealogist (yes I do that too), I look at these kinds of forms ALL. THE. TIME. The really sad part is this, you are all predictable. I told friends today, that I bet when I logged in here I would find this crap going on. This man could give you guys freekin video and it wouldn't be good enough. Pathetic, really truly pathetic. What Hawaii has done in controlling original source documents is NOT illegal. Most of this was instituted several years ago when identity theft became rampant. There is not a state I know of that will allow anyone to just stroll up and ask to see the long form documents if the date is less than 100 years. After 100 years they become public record. SOME states will allow the marriage documents to be public after 50 years, some and SOME states STILL won't allow you to see ANY long form birth, death or marriage documents UNLESS you can show good cause. The reason? For one it contains information that is PRIVATE. like Physician's names, addresses ect that are frankly NONE OF YOUR BUSINESS. It also lets you know ALL the information you need to steal an identity. California is ever stricter with their original source documents, I know, I pay a lot of money to get my hands on some of them for my research. Jesus christ people, stop it. Just stop. The question of Natural Born WAS and IS settled, he was born in the United States but you guys just don't like the answer. All you folks want is to find a way to tear Obama down. This is your sandbox to do it in. Have fun, because obviously you could care less what the truth is. All you care is that it isn't the truth you want. What is truly sad is I don't care for him as a President, but I will vote against anyone who is supported by people who believe in this woo woo crap and continue to destroy and divide this country over bullshit that has zero meaning in reality. MOST of the people I know will flat vote against any candidate who supports this continued nonsense. Stop with the god damn conspiracy theory crap. It doesn't exist. His documents are real, too bad so sad for you folks.WHO CARES if when he was 20 he screwed up in So he doesn't want to wave his damn report cards around, who gives a crap. school, wow thats a revelation that I am SURE knowing that he screwed up as a kid like MOST OF US will solve the god damn war Bush got us into right? THAT WILL FIX IT ALL, right? That is going to fix our economy crap that has been barreling down on us for the past 20 odd years, that is going to fix all the crap that needs to get fixed, right? YOU GUYS KNOWING that when he was in school he screwed up (gasp) is going to fix all that. Can you guys spell Petty? I am sure you can, you can spell just about anything else in your vitriolic, unreasonable, non-factual, biased and blatantly tabloid level of hatred these pages have displayed for this president. I have seen attacks on his kids in these forums for heaven's sake. STOP IT. Oh I know you will justify it to yourselves, go ahead, I won't bother to read your crap, because wasted crap is all it is. Take care LS. I am sad to see you all stoop to this level of hatred. Really sad PM Offline Member Profile |
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| Mason | Apr 27 2011, 08:07 PM Post #89 |
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. I am reminded of the Prestigious Harvard Professor, Henry Louis Gates. He broke into his own home and when Police arrived he refused to show his I.D. and asked the Police who they thought they were asking him for I.D. He asked them if they knew who they were fooling with, to warn them. Obama jumped in and classified it as Racism, out-of-control Police, etc. After the Public reaction, Obama changed his tune and held a Beer Summit. Obama didn't think HE should have to show his Birth Certificate. If we didn't have the fake Press we have, they wouldn't have supported Obama's right to conceal over the Public's right to know. . Edited by Mason, Apr 27 2011, 08:08 PM.
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| ~J~ is in Wonderland | Apr 27 2011, 08:14 PM Post #90 |
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No one else said it, maybe I wasn't clear. sorry |
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