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| RighteousThug | Apr 27 2011, 02:16 PM Post #46 |
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Sadly, of the 4 Prez/VP candidates in 2008, I thought that Biden was by far the most qualified to be President. And that's not saying much (note that i didn't say 'best-qualified'). |
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| retiredLEO | Apr 27 2011, 02:18 PM Post #47 |
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WND post an article on the book and how it goes into eligibility not just place of birth. I post an earlier link to the story in this thread. |
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| Concerned | Apr 27 2011, 02:32 PM Post #48 |
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After Obama campaigned on "transparency" and "Washington is broke, let's fix it" but refused to release his BC until Trump pushed him - what were Americans to think? |
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| Kethra | Apr 27 2011, 02:54 PM Post #49 |
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To you folks who responded to me, Obama NEVER made this an issue, stupid woo woo tin foil hat wearers did. He released his birth certificate, the same one that I have, that Bush has, that 90% of all people have in this country. But NO, that wasn't good enough for the woo woo morons. Why? Because "we don't like him". Good reason that. The form he released for those of you who are apparently CLUELESS about long form certificates, are folded because uh well they are long (mutters stupid morons under my breath). AFRICAN was used as a descriptor from the early 1700's until the 1980's as a descriptor of someone from, well, Africa. They are NOT negros, they are Africans. Go ask them what they call themselves. His father, since he was not a Negro (american black at the time), he was um well, African. Wow, logic shattering right? Keep over thinking the obvious since it shows nothing but absolute stupidity. Instead of assuming, which is all I am seeing happen here, DO THE RESEARCH. As a professional genealogist (yes I do that too), I look at these kinds of forms ALL. THE. TIME. The really sad part is this, you are all predictable. I told friends today, that I bet when I logged in here I would find this crap going on. This man could give you guys freekin video and it wouldn't be good enough. Pathetic, really truly pathetic. What Hawaii has done in controlling original source documents is NOT illegal. Most of this was instituted several years ago when identity theft became rampant. There is not a state I know of that will allow anyone to just stroll up and ask to see the long form documents if the date is less than 100 years. After 100 years they become public record. SOME states will allow the marriage documents to be public after 50 years, some and SOME states STILL won't allow you to see ANY long form birth, death or marriage documents UNLESS you can show good cause. The reason? For one it contains information that is PRIVATE. like Physician's names, addresses ect that are frankly NONE OF YOUR BUSINESS. It also lets you know ALL the information you need to steal an identity. California is ever stricter with their original source documents, I know, I pay a lot of money to get my hands on some of them for my research. Jesus christ people, stop it. Just stop. The question of Natural Born WAS and IS settled, he was born in the United States but you guys just don't like the answer. All you folks want is to find a way to tear Obama down. This is your sandbox to do it in. Have fun, because obviously you could care less what the truth is. All you care is that it isn't the truth you want. What is truly sad is I don't care for him as a President, but I will vote against anyone who is supported by people who believe in this woo woo crap and continue to destroy and divide this country over bullshit that has zero meaning in reality. MOST of the people I know will flat vote against any candidate who supports this continued nonsense. Stop with the god damn conspiracy theory crap. It doesn't exist. His documents are real, too bad so sad for you folks. So he doesn't want to wave his damn report cards around, who gives a crap. WHO CARES if when he was 20 he screwed up in school, wow thats a revelation that I am SURE knowing that he screwed up as a kid like MOST OF US will solve the god damn war Bush got us into right? THAT WILL FIX IT ALL, right? That is going to fix our economy crap that has been barreling down on us for the past 20 odd years, that is going to fix all the crap that needs to get fixed, right? YOU GUYS KNOWING that when he was in school he screwed up (gasp) is going to fix all that. Can you guys spell Petty? I am sure you can, you can spell just about anything else in your vitriolic, unreasonable, non-factual, biased and blatantly tabloid level of hatred these pages have displayed for this president. I have seen attacks on his kids in these forums for heaven's sake. STOP IT. Oh I know you will justify it to yourselves, go ahead, I won't bother to read your crap, because wasted crap is all it is. Take care LS. I am sad to see you all stoop to this level of hatred. Really sad |
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| Deleted User | Apr 27 2011, 02:57 PM Post #50 |
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If we are to believe the newly issued birth certificate, and if the Columbia transcript is real than POTUS is a certified LIER in chief. His transcript says born in Kenya and didn't he say he doesn't know Bill Ayers. What else has he lied about. This man cannot be trusted. |
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| Joan Foster | Apr 27 2011, 03:13 PM Post #51 |
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If one did not get furious at the demand to "investigate" Bush's Guard records, one has no standing to be furious over this. The precedent was set. Now, to expect that Obama get special treatment, be given special waivers of scrutiny is hypocritical. |
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| agatha | Apr 27 2011, 03:21 PM Post #52 |
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I loathe Obama because of his policies, because of where he has taken this nation, because he has yet to exhibit true leadership but I do not hate him. Hatred requires too much emotional energy, energy I would rather utilize elsewhere. I am always amazed the contradiction is lost on those whose assign motive to anyone trying to uncover the secrets of obama (whatever they may be). I do not understand the vitriol. |
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| Joan Foster | Apr 27 2011, 03:39 PM Post #53 |
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Obama is "The One We Have Been Waiting For"...that's the political equivalent of "Sister Survivor." It's the mythology of his "great brilliance"..like her intrinsic virtue that must be protected at all cost. Like Sister Survivor and say, the other Duke rape victim (the real one), the effrontery to ask of Obama what has been asked of other candidates and other Presidents, evokes fury, and ridicule and cries of racism. It's about fear. And loosing face. Their supporters were duped and they know it and they are angry. But they will be damned if they will admit it. Maybe there needs to be a Justice4Obama site because he was asked to do what McCain was asked to do. (but took years in his arrogance to feel he must stoop to comply) Oh, off to Oprah I go! I'm the One Oprah is Waiting For. Obama is doing for this Nation what Mangum did for real Rape victims. The backlash of their supporters is from having to face what FRAUDS both of them are and what FOOLS those who sold the mythology now appear. It's the queasy realization that every moment that Obama or Crystal are in the public eye...the Myth and the Metanarrative...becomes more exposed. |
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| retiredLEO | Apr 27 2011, 03:40 PM Post #54 |
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Please stop with the name calling Kethra, it is unbcomng of you and our of your character. I believe what I believe, because of all the times I needed to produce my birth certificate, and being adopted, I was locked away from my original BC for years. When adopted the state issued my parents a new BC with a new name for me and my adoptee parents as my parents, complete with signatures. I only knew I was adopted, because they told me I was. Yes, so I would think that if the POTUS wanted a BC with the proper names and titles the HDOH could do it. When Obama was adopted by Soetore, he would have had the BC changed just like I did, he could easily explain that away, that a person Soetoro Sr. was kind enough to take him in as his own son. When Obama was running for office, he knew he had been adopted, he could have explained that, but he chose not too. My question has always been Why? I have had my current name all my life with the exception of my first 5 months of life. What would happen, if I used my original name and BC to apply for something credit, job whatever, am a committing fraud, am I trying to hide something? I may need the lawyers help here, but I believe that if I wanted to legally change my name back to my original name, I would need to go to court, I don't believe I could just do that on my own, I'm just changing my name. The court would want to know if I was changing my name for criminal purposes, like fraud, to get away from debts or on a wanted list somewhere, before allowing me to change my name. My search for my birth mother, led me down many paths, finding she had 6 children and 4 husbands, I found it unreal that I was the only one born out of wedlock. God only knows what the press would do to me if I ever ran for POTUS as a conservative? They probably would want to know who my father was and I never found an answer. I have my theories about who my original was and you being a professional genealogist, I would be happy to discuss with you, through a PM and further through an email or phone call, but for now I will continue to be a woo woo moron, until I find out more about the circumstances of Obama's life, adoption and return to the United States and his name changes. |
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| Joan Foster | Apr 27 2011, 03:42 PM Post #55 |
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Has there ever been an attack on Obama's children on these pages? I'd like to see it. That is a very serious charge. |
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| Joan Foster | Apr 27 2011, 03:50 PM Post #56 |
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From the Progressive site Wonkette. Has there been something like this posted HERE against the Obama children? And this site claims it was a finalist for a PULITZER! (that figures) This about a 3 year old Special Needs child. BY JACK STUEF — That strange man yelling unintelligibly at Sarah Palin? He’s merely a lowly shepherd proclaiming the birth of our savior. Today is the day we come together to celebrate the snowbilly grifter’s magical journey from Texas to Alaska to deliver to the America the great gentleman scholar Trig Palin. Is Palin his true mother? Or was Bristol? (And why is it that nobody questions who the father is? Because, either way, Todd definitely did it.) It doesn’t matter. What matters is that we are privileged to live in a time when we can witness the greatest prop in world political history. snip What’s he dreaming about? Nothing. He’s retarded. “Why just celebrate tax day today, April 18th? It’s also Trig Paxson Van Palin’s 3rd birthday. His mom went to a lot of trouble to leak amniotic fluid over 8 states to make sure that he arrived in this world somewhat alive,” writes Wonkette operative “Barbara_i,” reminding us of the occasion. “Sarah went to a whole lot of trouble to name him ‘Van Palin,’ a ‘Van Halen’ reference he will never get.” Indeed. Enjoy yourself today, Trig. Have fun! Get drunk (on purpose this time)! We can hardly wait for 15 years from now, when you will finally be able to vote and will be sent off by your mother’s junta to fight the Union in the Great Alaska War. It’ll be quite a loss. You’re the smartest one in that family." |
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| LTC8K6 | Apr 27 2011, 03:52 PM Post #57 |
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Well, I don't have anything nice to say... But I am shocked at this attack... Even more shocked at the double standard... Edited by LTC8K6, Apr 27 2011, 03:57 PM.
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| Mason | Apr 27 2011, 03:56 PM Post #58 |
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. I had no idear you done felt like that. PS: Can you Say That? . Edited by Mason, Apr 27 2011, 03:58 PM.
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| LTC8K6 | Apr 27 2011, 03:58 PM Post #59 |
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I thought this sort of overhyped drama was left behind in high school... |
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| RighteousThug | Apr 27 2011, 03:58 PM Post #60 |
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That 'transcript' is a joke, cfochina. A funny one, but a joke nonetheless. |
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