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Obama releases long form Birth Cert.; alrighty then.
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Apr 29 2011, 06:32 AM
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Apr 29 2011, 06:30 AM
Indonesia doesn't allow dual citizenship.
Well, if you ask around, you get different versions of that...
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Well, if Indonesia didn't allow dual citizenship, and that school record is accurate, then...
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agatha

DO we know for a fact that he was adopted by Lolo? Or are we assuming?

I was adopted by my mother's second husband (the only father I ever knew). I have seen my original BC, but it is not the legal one.

The legal one is the one issued by the state when the adoption was finalized. If I desired (I do not), I could request the court "correct" my BC, but the only change would be in the last name. My father's name would still be the name of the man who adopted me. I could not have the name of my father changed to my biological father.

IF the BC released is on the level, if it is the original and IF Obama was adopted by Lolo (which meant OB Sr signed away parental rights), we have just witnessed a sleight of hand.
While it may be the original BC, it is not the LEGAL BC. One cannot simply undo an adoption.

I want to see the legal BC.

If (again just speculation) Obama has been using the original BC instead of his legal BC as legal proof when required, what are the legal ramifications?





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Apr 29 2011, 07:52 AM
DO we know for a fact that he was adopted by Lolo? Or are we assuming?

I was adopted by my mother's second husband (the only father I ever knew). I have seen my original BC, but it is not the legal one.

The legal one is the one issued by the state when the adoption was finalized. If I desired (I do not), I could request the court "correct" my BC, but the only change would be in the last name. My father's name would still be the name of the man who adopted me. I could not have the name of my father changed to my biological father.

IF the BC released is on the level, if it is the original and IF Obama was adopted by Lolo (which meant OB Sr signed away parental rights), we have just witnessed a sleight of hand.
While it may be the original BC, it is not the LEGAL BC. One cannot simply undo an adoption.

I want to see the legal BC.

If (again just speculation) Obama has been using the original BC instead of his legal BC as legal proof when required, what are the legal ramifications?





Exactly, agatha, I was adopted and was issued a new birth certificate. I distinctly recall Zero's admission papers to the elementary school he attended in Indonesia stated he was Indonesian and religion was Islahm. His name on the paper is Barry, not Barack, so I firmly believe he was adopted. This is an old article, but it show his registration form, how quickly people forget and that is what Obama counted on. He has no country to be loyal too.

http://theconservativetreehouse.wordpress.com/2011/04/26/obama-behind-the-eyes-the-down-nosed-stare-and-the-spin-part-i-kindergarten-through-high-school/
Edited by retiredLEO, Apr 29 2011, 08:21 AM.
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BORN IN THE USA?

Obama's half-sister raises birth-certificate doubts


Claims despite 'adoption' by Indonesian stepfather, it is U.S. 'law' that matters

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Posted: April 28, 2011
10:19 pm Eastern


By Bob Unruh
© 2011 WorldNetDaily


A statement from Barack Obama's half-sister has at least cast a shadow of doubt on the legitimacy of the "Certificate of Live Birth" document that was released by the White House this week in an attempt to stifle questions about his eligibility, by referencing his apparent adoption by her father, Indonesian Lolo Soetoro.


Facebook page comments from Maya Soetoro-Ng

On a Facebook page, Maya Soetoro-Ng wrote to a woman who had met her in Hawaii after Madelyn Dunham, the mother of Stanley Ann Dunham Obama Soetoro and grandmother to both Maya and Barack, passed away in 2008.

Soetoro-Ng was objecting to having a conversation with a critic of her half-brother, and said she had been misquoted as saying her whole family was Muslim.

She wrote, "I did not say my brother was a Muslim. I did say that I was more philosophically Buddhist. I told you that you were upsetting me. You said that you were not trying to upset me but wanted to know the truth about (Raila) Odinga (a Muslim for whom Barack Obama campaigned in the 2007 presidential race in Kenya). I told you I didn't know who that was and had never met him. You mentioned the adoption laws of Indonesia that you saw as related to my brother's legitimacy (you were suggesting that because my father, his stepfather, had adopted him, that my brother was no longer American) and I said that I had no idea about Indonesian adoption law."

See the movie Obama does not want you to see: Own the DVD that probes this unprecedented presidential-eligibility mystery!

While not a definitive statement, there also are other indications that Lolo Soetoro, Stanley Ann Dunham Obama Soetoro's second husband, an Indonesia, either adopted Barack Obama or considered him adopted, as documentation obtained by the Associated Press reveals that Obama-Soetoro was registered as a Muslim Indonesian at school when he lived in the Far East with his mother and Lolo Soetoro.



Read more: Obama's half-sister raises birth-certificate doubts http://www.wnd.com/?pageId=292649#ixzz1KuzoIHA5
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retiredLEO
Apr 29 2011, 08:19 AM
His name on the paper is Barry, not Barack, so I firmly believe he was adopted.

More specifically, Barry Soetoro.
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Why is the registar named Ukalele, seems like someone playing games.


A tale of two birth certificates


'Rosetta Stone' documents provide comparison

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Posted: April 28, 2011
10:17 pm Eastern


By Jerome R. Corsi
© 2011 WorldNetDaily


That Obama's birth certificate lists a registrar that appears remarkably like a forger's signature joke on the word "ukulele" is not the only peculiarity observed in comparing the president's record with other long-form Hawaiian birth certificates that have been fully authenticated.

The question is whether the Obama birth record the White House released Wednesday is an authentic photocopy of an original 1961 vital record or a modern-day forgery.



Read more: A tale of two birth certificates http://www.wnd.com/?pageId=292717#ixzz1Kv5D8iWw
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Well, the same name appears on other contemporary BC's, so it's legit.
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For Immediate Release: – 04/28/2011
For Further Information Contact:
Philip J. Berg, Esquire
555 Andorra Glen Court, Suite 12
Lafayette Hill, PA 19444-2531

Cell (610) 662-3005

(610) 825-3134
(800) 993-PHIL [7445]
Fax (610) 834-7659

philjberg@obamacrimes.com

OBAMA and his “SUPPOSED” LONG FORM BIRTH CERTIFICATE

WHAT ABOUT OBAMA’S

INDONESIAN CITIZENSHIP?

Obama is ‘not’ Constitutionally Eligible

to be President

(Lafayette Hill, PA – 04/28/11) – Philip J. Berg, Esquire, the first Attorney who filed suit against Barack H. Obama on August 21, 2008 challenging Obama’s lack of “Constitutionally Eligibility” to serve as President of the United States stated that Obama’s release of this document that Obama calls his long form Birth Certificate raises further questions of the legitimacy of the document itself. Moreover, even if it were a legitimate birth certificate, which it is not, it still does not answer the question of Obama’s Constitutional Eligibility.

Berg said, “The Birth Certificate issued by Obama on national Television, have missing factors: Mother’s address; length and weight of baby; and where the signature of Stanley Ann Dunham appears, it says “mother or informant”. Additionally, the authenticity of the document itself is already being questioned for many reasons”

Berg continued, “Even if Obama could produce a long form Birth Certificate, which is highly doubted, it fails to answer the questions into Obama’s adoption in Indonesia.”

Berg said, “I have received many calls claiming Obama could not have lost his U.S. citizenship by his mother’s acts of expatriation. In part this is true, however, he Nationality Act of 1940, revised 1952, Section 318(a) states, “A former citizen of the United States expatriated through the expatriation of such person’s parent or parents and who has not acquired the nationality of another country by any affirmative act other than the expatriation of his parent or parents may be naturalized upon filing a petition for naturalization before reaching age of Twenty-Five [25] years and upon compliance with all requirements of the naturalization laws with the following exceptions: (b) No former citizen of the United States, expatriated through the expatriation of such person’s parent or parents shall be obliged to comply with the requirements of the immigration laws, if he has not acquired the nationality of another country by any affirmative act other than the expatriation of his parent or parents, and if he has come or shall come to the United States before reaching the age of twenty-five years. (c) After his naturalization such person shall have the same citizenship status as if he had not been expatriated.”

http://obamacrimes.com/?p=1505
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agatha

Slight correction (with all due respect ) :)

Well, the same name appears on other contemporary BC's, so it appears to be legit. Until an adoption is confirmed or denied we will never know for sure.

What was it the Greatest President of My Lifetime said? Trust but verify.
Edited by agatha, Apr 29 2011, 01:40 PM.
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agatha
Apr 29 2011, 01:40 PM
Slight correction (with all due respect ) :)

Well, the same name appears on other contemporary BC's, so it appears to be legit. Until an adoption is confirmed or denied we will never know for sure.

What was it the Greatest President of My Lifetime said? Trust but verify.
I meant it really is the person's correct name. It's not a made up name.

It's not ukulele.
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Joan Foster

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/printpage/?url=http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2011/04/29/potus_priorities_109699-full.html

"Their critique had nothing to do with where Obama was born. Little was said about why he had waited -- "for 2 1/2 years," by his own admission -- to resolve what he described as "this kind of silliness." Instead, the overwhelming sentiment was colossal disappointment that the leader of the Free World had stooped to whine about being "distracted by sideshows and carnival barkers" while our nation confronts monumental problems.

"I'm ashamed to say, I voted for him," one of the policemen said to me as we walked out of the command post. He continued: "My National Guard unit was called up for duty in Iraq while Bush was president. After Obama was elected, I volunteered to go to Afghanistan with a police (mobile training team). Though I didn't agree with George Bush about Iraq, I never doubted he really meant it when he said he cared about all of us over there and prayed for us every day. But all Obama thinks about is himself."

That's a striking, provocative observation about Barack Obama from a self-professed former supporter. Whether the president's sudden appearance in the White House pressroom was really "impromptu," "unplanned" and "spontaneous," as administration officials claim, or part of a strategic public relations plan gone awry is irrelevant. Either way, Wednesday's surreal birth certificate announcement is evidence of extraordinary self-infatuation.

In his remarks, Obama asserted: "I've got better stuff to do. We've got big problems to solve." Yet there is little indication that this president is deeply preoccupied with issues that ought to warrant his full attention.

Less than 12 hours before he "popped in" to remind the press corps about his birthplace, nine Americans were killed in Afghanistan. Scores of rebels and refugees were butchered in Misrata, Libya, by forces loyal to Moammar Gadhafi. In Syria, Bashar Assad's army unleashed a series of vicious assaults on unarmed protesters, making a mockery of Obama's "responsibility to protect civilians" foreign policy. In that same time frame, devastating tornadoes touched down in major American cities -- destroying homes, office buildings and schools while killing hundreds of our countrymen -- and gasoline prices hit a new high. Yet none of this warranted even a brief utterance from the president."
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LTC8K6
Apr 29 2011, 01:43 PM
agatha
Apr 29 2011, 01:40 PM
Slight correction (with all due respect ) :)

Well, the same name appears on other contemporary BC's, so it appears to be legit. Until an adoption is confirmed or denied we will never know for sure.

What was it the Greatest President of My Lifetime said? Trust but verify.
I meant it really is the person's correct name. It's not a made up name.

It's not ukulele.
Whoopsy---glad I said "with all due respect" :)
Sometimes my brain cells fail me.
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Joan Foster
Apr 29 2011, 01:57 PM
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/printpage/?url=http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2011/04/29/potus_priorities_109699-full.html

"Their critique had nothing to do with where Obama was born. Little was said about why he had waited -- "for 2 1/2 years," by his own admission -- to resolve what he described as "this kind of silliness." Instead, the overwhelming sentiment was colossal disappointment that the leader of the Free World had stooped to whine about being "distracted by sideshows and carnival barkers" while our nation confronts monumental problems.

"I'm ashamed to say, I voted for him," one of the policemen said to me as we walked out of the command post. He continued: "My National Guard unit was called up for duty in Iraq while Bush was president. After Obama was elected, I volunteered to go to Afghanistan with a police (mobile training team). Though I didn't agree with George Bush about Iraq, I never doubted he really meant it when he said he cared about all of us over there and prayed for us every day. But all Obama thinks about is himself."

That's a striking, provocative observation about Barack Obama from a self-professed former supporter. Whether the president's sudden appearance in the White House pressroom was really "impromptu," "unplanned" and "spontaneous," as administration officials claim, or part of a strategic public relations plan gone awry is irrelevant. Either way, Wednesday's surreal birth certificate announcement is evidence of extraordinary self-infatuation.

In his remarks, Obama asserted: "I've got better stuff to do. We've got big problems to solve." Yet there is little indication that this president is deeply preoccupied with issues that ought to warrant his full attention.

Less than 12 hours before he "popped in" to remind the press corps about his birthplace, nine Americans were killed in Afghanistan. Scores of rebels and refugees were butchered in Misrata, Libya, by forces loyal to Moammar Gadhafi. In Syria, Bashar Assad's army unleashed a series of vicious assaults on unarmed protesters, making a mockery of Obama's "responsibility to protect civilians" foreign policy. In that same time frame, devastating tornadoes touched down in major American cities -- destroying homes, office buildings and schools while killing hundreds of our countrymen -- and gasoline prices hit a new high. Yet none of this warranted even a brief utterance from the president."
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Less than 12 hours before he "popped in" to remind the press corps about his birthplace, nine Americans were killed in Afghanistan.


Americans are still being killed in Afghanistan? Who knew? I thought the war was over since MSM never reports on the deaths anymore. :SarC: Damned hypocrites.
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Right agatha, the wars ended in January of 2009. They become kinetic military actions.
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