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Obama releases long form Birth Cert.; alrighty then.
Topic Started: Apr 27 2011, 08:08 AM (6,865 Views)
Joan Foster

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2011/04/27/white-house-releases-obama-birth-certificate/
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Joan Foster

It's up on Drudge already.
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Baldo
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http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2011/images/04/27/birth-certificate-long-form.pdf

So my question is?

Why didn't he do this two years ago?

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Joan Foster

Trump is on right now...saying he is "honored" to have brought this about. He handles the press very well.
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LTC8K6
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This is just a modern reproduction, not the original BC. This is what you get when someone puts the birth data into the modern system and generates a new form.

This is just another uncertain copy.

The original must really be missing.

It does say his father was not an American citizen, though.
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Joan Foster

Trump is doubling down on the college records...and slamming the press for "protecting" Obama.
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Kethra

FOR THE LOVE OF LITTLE APPLES STOP IT WITH THIS CRAP. It is NOT an uncertain document, he was born in the US, that long form looks EXACTLY like mine. STOP STOP STOP.

You guys are making me crazy with this conspiracy crap. I left LS for a long time because I saw a group of incredibly bright people lose their minds. STOP STOP STOP this nonsense. There are so many other much more important things that we as a group can be addressing than this woo woo stupidity.

Baldo, he shouldn't HAVE to had done this. He produced the same god damn certificate I have. The same one MOST of us get. STOP IT.

Its time to move on past this tin foil crap.

Christ, I am out of here if you guys keep up with this stupidity. I KNOW you are all smarter than this. QUIT.
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Rusty Dog
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Baldo
Apr 27 2011, 08:29 AM
http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2011/images/04/27/birth-certificate-long-form.pdf

So my question is?

Why didn't he do this two years ago?

Something looks odd to me here.

The certificate looks to be resting on a surface and the left side is curling under. But the surface it is on is the same as the background of the certificate. There is no break in the pattern on the top and right side of the certificate against the pattern of the undersurface.
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Rusty Dog
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Kethra,
I'm sorry, but the questions were there, and they were valid, but never answered. That is why this has lasted so long.

This form looks good, so we'll see if it will lay to rest the questions.
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Joan Foster

Kethra
Apr 27 2011, 08:50 AM
FOR THE LOVE OF LITTLE APPLES STOP IT WITH THIS CRAP. It is NOT an uncertain document, he was born in the US, that long form looks EXACTLY like mine. STOP STOP STOP.

You guys are making me crazy with this conspiracy crap. I left LS for a long time because I saw a group of incredibly bright people lose their minds. STOP STOP STOP this nonsense. There are so many other much more important things that we as a group can be addressing than this woo woo stupidity.

Baldo, he shouldn't HAVE to had done this. He produced the same god damn certificate I have. The same one MOST of us get. STOP IT.

Its time to move on past this tin foil crap.

Christ, I am out of here if you guys keep up with this stupidity. I KNOW you are all smarter than this. QUIT.
Kethra,

I felt as you do when Bush's military documents were the Dem's favorite topic. Remember Rather's "fake but accurate"60 Minutes expose? But unlike the Birth certificate...the press was relentless in their assertion that Americans had the right to know.

Why is it "different" when it's Obama?

Didn't we ask the same of the NCNAACP and the Potbangers? Why did their core principles change...when it was 3 white Duke athletes?

The difference in approach by the Press is a large part of this story. Most of us, as in the Lacrosse case are looking for CONSISTENCY. That's another word for fairness.

There is no "fairness" in the way the media protects Obama while assailing other candidates. Remember the unsubstantiated NY Times story on McCain's "affair?

Where was the outrage?

Bush had his "grades" analyzed..his "stupidity was a fertile topic in mainstream press. But Obama is not asked to disclose HIS school records.

This is part of what fuels this.

The anger at the favoritism that skews all media coverage of Obama.
Edited by Joan Foster, Apr 27 2011, 09:04 AM.
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Joan Foster

Let me add this as well. What got under my skin was the assertion that with Obama we have no right to ask..after 8 years of being told this was the Press just doing its job.
Then..do your job now too! Press the matter as Trump did...as you did during the Bush years...and be CONSISTENT. Show that politics is not at the base of your coverage.

And, I am truly offended that questioning anything aboyt Obama...like questioning anything about Sister Survivor is RACIST.

Actually the reverse of racism is to treat everyone THE SAME.

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retiredLEO
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His father's race African, was that the common language to describe and AA, back in 1961?

He does not meet the natural born citizen clause of the Constitution

Father’s race on the Obama birth certificate: only a curiosity or a smoking gun?


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- Lawrence Sellin Tuesday, April 26, 2011
I would like to begin by stating unequivocally that, for me, it does not matter if Barack Hussein Obama was born in Hawaii because he has never been eligible to be President. He does not meet the natural born citizen clause of the Constitution i.e. born in the United States, of parents who were both U.S. citizens at the time of the candidate’s birth.



I admit that I am not, by any stretch of the imagination, an expert on birth documents nor am I terribly familiar with the details of the current birth certificate controversy.

Nevertheless, there is one thing that I don’t quite understand.

On the Certification of Live Birth (COLB), now widely available on the internet, Obama’s father’s race is listed as “African”.

First, “African” usually defines a location not a race.

Second, the common usage for the race of black Africans in 1961 would have been “Negro” or “Negroid”.

Third, “African” is not listed as a race in the federal Office of Management and Budget policy documents (1977, 1997).

For the sake of argument, let’s say that the terminology is peculiar to Hawaii and Obama filed a Late Certificate of Birth or perhaps his documents were updated in recent years.

In that case, the publicly available COLB must reflect what is written on the source birth documents, even updated ones.

In Appendix B “Hawaii Model – Standard for Clustering Race/Ethnicity Categories” contained in an article published in 2003 by employees of the Hawaii Department of Health, the word “African” appears as an “Aggregated Ethnic Group” under the race category “Black (non-Hispanic)”. That differs from the categories in Appendix A, which apparently represented an earlier version and did not contain the word “African”.

Unless I am mistaken, that information might suggest that Barack Obama’s birth data were updated around 2003 or thereafter.

I don’t know. Just asking. Perhaps someone can enlighten me.

http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/35884
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kbp

Obama made it an issue. I will always hold out for proof. Even if that means waiting while Obama allows the question to brew up numerous lawsuits he spent a million or two of other peoples money on to drag the issue further and states used valuable time in their legislature to address preventing this question in the future.

Why the he!! would I feel bad about questioning how honest a politician IS, ESPECIALLY the ONE which let this matter grow so much????

ONLY ONE PERSON HAD CONTROL OF ENDING THIS MATTER




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kbp

The question of what "natural born" is has never been resolved.

Even IF the definition was to some day require that both parents be US citizens, I'm 99% sure it would not matter now and 100% certain I wouldn't care even if it did matter now ...if this "long form" is authentic and accurate.

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kbp

For the record...

...what Hawaii has done in controlling the source of the documents in question is just plain illegal ...which simply adds to WHY we should question WTH is going on.

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