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Topic Started: Apr 18 2011, 10:55 AM (2,130 Views)
Joan Foster

Jim Nesbitt - Staff Writer
Tags: durham | duke_lacrosse

They came from a world of hushed golf greens and suburban homes with price tags that cross the million-dollar line.

Before dawn Tuesday, they were escorted into the industrial gray and stainless steel of the Durham County jail. They each wore handcuffs, co-defendants in a gang rape investigation.

Reade Seligmann and Collin Finnerty, Duke University lacrosse teammates, both went to exclusive, all-boys Catholic prep schools -- Finnerty to Chaminade High School on Long Island, N.Y.; Seligmann to Delbarton School in Morristown, N.J.

Finnerty, 19, from Garden City, N.Y., is a lanky attackman for the Duke squad, a reserve who lacks the gaudy high school stats of others on the Blue Devils roster. Seligmann, 20, from Essex Fells, N.J. is a big, swift midfielder, a former fullback named a lacrosse All-American as a high school senior. Now they stand together in something far more serious, accused of raping an escort service dancer at a March 13 team party, charged in a case that has generated riptides of racial tension and class resentment.

Read more: http://www.newsobserver.com/2006/04/19/79870/suspects-in-rape-share-background.html#storylink=misearch#ixzz1JtY9Ptp3
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There is a sizable group of un-knowledgeable malcontents who think Duke treats Durham (and by extension Durhamites) like a plantation. But most honest citizens, no matter their color of skin, understand that while imperfect, DU is a major reason that many retirees chose to relocate to the Triangle area.

If there were no University, Durham would be so much more like Detroit, hell, despite Duke's best efforts (prompted/extorted by the Durham Democratic party culture), in some 'hoods it absolutely is like Detroit, because of the drugs and guns and the inbred culture of non-accountability and hopelessness.

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The media still continues to prop up Crystal by printing quotes from Victoria Peterson and her supporters.

Why do they continue to do this? Slandering the LAX players was bad enough but they allow Peterson to continue to perpetuate the hoax.


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“Crystal is a very smart and very bright person,” says Peterson. “Many of feel she did not get a fair trial and that a lot of this stems from that. When a poor person is sexually assaulted by people with wealth and power, the cases go a little differently.”
http://www.thedailybeast.com/blogs-and-stories/2011-04-05/duke-lacrosse-rape-accusers-new-trouble-crystal-mangum-arrested/www.thedailybeast.comfull/full/2/full/2/
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Most of the retirees and young professionals who have moved to the area are northeastern or northern Democrats, of varying skin hues.
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"Not about sex but about wealth and power" echoes keep coming...
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"Some said they worried that defense attorneys might try to move the case out of Durham, although no such motions have been made."

This tells you all you need to know about Durham's motives. Consider how early the above quote was made. Durham had it's heart set on a conviction.
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Joan Foster

Executive Vice President Tallman Trask was told of the rape report in the early round of communication, but Brodhead and other academic administrators did not learn of it until much later, Monday's report said.

Duke's public relations officials did not know until March 17, and Brodhead found out March 20, when Vice President Larry Moneta told him "the accusations were not credible and were unlikely to amount to anything."

The N&O reported March 24 that a judge had ordered members of the team to submit DNA evidence for testing -- the first public report linking lacrosse players to an alleged rape.

"I do believe the communication glitches were exacerbated by the underestimation of the seriousness of the charges," Bowen said in the conference call.

Chambers said he was disturbed that officials seemed to doubt the woman's story. "You don't discount a complaint because of who made it," he said during the call.

'Major mistake'

The report criticized Duke for minimizing the accuser's allegation. "Taking at face value the reported comments of Durham police officers (and perhaps others), and allowing their interpretations of credibility and seriousness to shape Duke's thinking, was a major mistake," the report said.

The report said administrators would have reacted differently had they known a female Duke police officer in the emergency room March 14 tried to calm the accuser, who was "crying uncontrollably and visibly shaken."

Duke also failed to properly oversee a lacrosse team with a history of unruly and drunken behavior, the report said; such oversight might have kept the party from occurring.

Administrators allowed the team to keep practicing; Athletics Director Joe Alleva called the players "wonderful young men."

"Increasingly, the lacrosse team was seen by at least some part of the Duke/Durham community as a manifestation of a white, elitist, arrogant sub-culture that was both indulged and self-indulgent," the report said.

Brodhead said the review would help Duke learn. He said officials were slow to respond partly because they got information in bits and pieces over a long period.

"All of us wish we had gotten onto this story earlier," he said.

Praise for Brodhead

Bowen and Chambers praised Brodhead's commitment to deal with the crisis: "Once he was in possession of the necessary information, President Brodhead has provided strong, consistent, and effective leadership ..."

The report did say that Brodhead was hampered by the administration's lack of diversity. The senior team consists of a core group of white men.

Brodhead pointed out that the team was in place when he arrived two years ago and said that he is committed to diversity.

He said administrators would be reviewed on their performance on the normal schedule and he had no immediate plans to make personnel changes.

The future of Duke lacrosse remains unsettled, he said. Should Duke resume the program, it would be under different circumstances, Brodhead said. "We are not going to tolerate and we are are not going to continue the culture," he said.

Read more: http://www.newsobserver.com/2006/05/09/67112/study-cops-took-rape-case-lightly.html#storylink=misearch#ixzz1JtZS7r3Y
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Joan Foster

By the way, my car is gone for a week, my business partner is on vacation...and I have a lot of time on my hands.

Let's...review, my Hooligan friends.

It's easy to forget just how hideous all this was....and why we all found our way here.
Edited by Joan Foster, Apr 18 2011, 12:10 PM.
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The media still continues to prop up Crystal by printing quotes from Victoria Peterson and her supporters.

Why do they continue to do this? Slandering the LAX players was bad enough but they allow Peterson to continue to perpetuate the hoax.



The media have had an agenda from day 1 ("Dancer gives details of ordeal").

And starting with Nifong's about face on the reliability of DNA testing ("DNA is bulletproof". "How does DNA exonerate you?")
it has averted its gaze when anything that could question the case came up.

And somehow only supporters of Crystal get interviewed (or if by chance someone else gets a quote
in, it's truncated and weakened).


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Joan Foster

Nifong said the DNA results do not end anything.

“I’m not saying it’s over. If that’s what they expect, they will be sadly disappointed,” Nifong said at a candidate forum Monday night. “They can say anything they want, but I’m still in the middle of my investigation. … I believe a sexual assault took place.”

Neither Nifong nor the defense lawyers would release the results.

Nifong said he remains confident in the woman’s story: that she was hired to dance at the March 13 party and was sexually assaulted in a bathroom. Police later found four of her fake fingernails in the house. A nurse and doctor found “signs, symptoms and injuries consistent with being raped and sexually assaulted vaginally and anally,” according to a police affidavit used to obtain a search warrant.

The defense lawyers, speaking at their Monday news conference, said the DNA evidence supports the team’s story: that two women hired to dance at the party took $800 and left after a few minutes.


Read more: http://www.newsobserver.com/2006/04/10/55604/attorney-no-dna-found-on-victim.html#storylink=misearch#ixzz1JtbCbfZ4
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Quasimodo

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Praise for Brodhead

Bowen and Chambers praised Brodhead's commitment to deal with the crisis: "Once he was in possession of the necessary information, President Brodhead has provided strong, consistent, and effective leadership ..."


Odd, that the sources always seem to stress how great Brodhead's 'leadership' was.

Methinks they do protest too much.
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Joan Foster

The woman's father said Thursday his daughter was not raped in the 1996 incident.

"They didn't do anything to her," he said.

The father said his daughter was held against her will by a group of men who had picked her up from school in Durham and drove her to Creedmoor. She was not sexually assaulted or injured in the encounter, he said, and she was returned home safely the same day.

The 1996 accusation came to light Thursday after Essence.com, the Web site of Essence, a lifestyle magazine, reported in a news update that the accuser's mother had said her daughter was raped by several men in Creedmoor when she was a teenager. When contacted by The News & Observer on Thursday, the mother said the magazine misrepresented her comments. She refused to elaborate on what her daughter had reported to the Creedmoor police.

"I'm not going to tell you anything," the mother said.

Read more: http://www.newsobserver.com/2006/04/28/68369/da-previous-rape-claim-will-not.html#storylink=misearch#ixzz1Jtc2q4f0

How about comparing this to Mangum's statement to Ben Himan ...her own description.

“/28/06 - 0918

1.Called victim [Crystal Mangum] in reference to an earlier sexual assault that she reported at Creedmor police department. She stated that she was dating F_____ at the time.

2. She stated that she had ran away from home on previous times and that she had been found hiding at F____'s house after the police came with a search warrant.

3. She stated that she was used by F____ to sell drugs and take the money to him.

4. She stated that when F____ was not there some men would come over, L____, A_____ and S_____. She stated that she would have sex with them when Floyd was not around.

5. She stated later that the men paid F____ to come over and have sex with her.

6. She stated that one day F_____ confronted the victim about the men that were coming over and having sex with her. She stated that she denied it to him and then he brought the three men to the house.

7. She stated in front of her she asked them and they all said that they had been having sex with her. She stated that F____ grabbed her and they went into the bedroom where she stated three men Mr. F____, A____ and L____ “ran the train on her”

She stated she was very scared .
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Joan Foster

DURHAM -- District Attorney Mike Nifong said Tuesday that the Duke lacrosse case is the first time he has been criticized for his policy of not interviewing witnesses.

"For 27 years, no one has thought it was odd that I had other people do the interviewing," Nifong said in an interview. "For people who have never prosecuted cases to suggest they just can't believe I would do that seems kind of self-serving."

Nifong said in court last week that he had never heard the accuser give her account of the March lacrosse team party where she said she was raped by three Duke lacrosse players. As weaknesses in the prosecutor's case have emerged, the woman's in-court testimony, presumably in which she will name the three defendants, has become a key part of Nifong's case.

But Nifong said hearing the woman tell her story is not the only way to determine whether she is credible. That determination comes from other, general conversations, he said.

"That's how you determine whether or not somebody's trustworthy, I think," Nifong said. "You weren't there when the crime took place, so you cannot know if the person is telling you the truth about the crime or not just based on the account."

Read more: http://www.newsobserver.com/2006/11/01/39494/nifong-defends-interview-policy.html#storylink=misearch#ixzz1JtcyJ7l8
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Joan Foster

DURHAM -- The woman who accused three Duke University lacrosse players of rape is scheduled to start another semester at N.C. Central University when undergraduate courses begin Monday.

If the young woman reports to her classes, at least then, her father says, he will have some sense that she's all right.

The 28-year-old student and mother of two has virtually vanished this summer, her father said in an interview this week.

She has cut off contact with her family, and neither police nor the district attorney would say this week whether the woman is still cooperating with them.

The woman was recently observed leaving the Durham Police Department's headquarters with her two children.

But police did not comment on whether the visit was tied to the investigation into a Duke lacrosse party at 610 N. Buchanan Blvd. on March 13, where the woman was hired as a dancer and said later she was beaten, raped and sodomized.

The News & Observer is not naming the accuser or her family members because it is the paper's policy not to identify people listed as victims of sexual assault on police reports.

The notoriety and publicity has mounted since the assault was reported. The mainstream media have never printed or uttered her name, but her identity is far from a secret.

"Everyone knows who she is, by now," the woman's father said.

Since making the allegations, the woman has been depressed, lost weight and has stopped communicating with her family, her father said.

The 62-year-old retired truck driver says he hasn't seen his daughter since June, when he happened to spot her sitting in a friend's car at a traffic light on Fayetteville Street.

"She said she was doing fine," he said. "I asked where [her] kids were, and she said they were out of town. ... Then the light changed."

The accuser's father and mother said they are desperate to see their grandchildren, ages 7 and 6.


The couple also marked their daughter's 28th birthday last month, but they lament the fact that they didn't know where to send well wishes and gifts.

"I used to see her every day until all this stuff [happened]," the woman's father said.

The worried father said he wasn't aware his daughter was scheduled to go back to school at N.C. Central University next week until it was confirmed by a reporter.

Sharon Saunders, special assistant to the chancellor for public relations, said this week that the woman is enrolled for the fall semester, but she could not say what degree she is pursuing or how many classes she must complete before that degree is earned.

The News & Observer has previously confirmed that the woman was studying psychology last semester and had a 3.75 grade-point average.

Despite arguments presented by defense attorneys and critics of the case that the rape didn't occur, the woman's father said he still believes his daughter was physically harmed at the Duke lacrosse party.

"She wouldn't go to the hospital if she was going to make something up," he said.
Staff writer Samiha Khanna can be reached at 956-2468 or skhanna@newsobserver.com.

Read more: http://www.newsobserver.com/2006/08/19/50004/nccu-classes-set-for-accuser.html#storylink=misearch#ixzz1JtdQrORR
Edited by Joan Foster, Apr 18 2011, 12:21 PM.
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Apr 18 2011, 12:03 PM
"Some said they worried that defense attorneys might try to move the case out of Durham, although no such motions have been made."

This tells you all you need to know about Durham's motives. Consider how early the above quote was made. Durham had it's heart set on a conviction.
If the lax case didn't qualify for a change of venue--and such a change would certainly have been denied by Nifong crony Judge
Ron ("Honest Ron") Stephens--then no case in the history of US jurisprudence could have qualified.

(death threats inside the courtroom by a uniformed member of a race-based hate group; uniformed klansmen* passing
out photos of the falsely-accused and promising to bring 'their own kind of justice'; the DA meeting privately with
the head of the klan; the klan providing the keynote speakers for a massive local rally (1200 of Durham's civic
and community leaders) in which Jews were denounced for all the troubles of the world; etc.

(*'klan' here referring not to the ku klux klan but to another similar group)

But none of that would have sufficed in Durham; and since, according to Judge Beaty, that klan's
activity wasn't even Klan-like,
it wouldn't have sufficed elsewhere in the Fourth District, either.
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