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CGM's boyfriend died.; RIP Reginald Daye
Topic Started: Apr 13 2011, 07:30 PM (23,356 Views)
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I don't envy Woody Vann, having Crystal as a client? If convicted, at a minimum she is facing many years behind bars. Even with a plea deal, she will have to stand before a Judge and admit her wrong-doing. I don't know if that is possible,.

In the past troubles, she has just passed out. I expect drama
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Jack Wade

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Apr 15 2011, 03:51 PM
I expect drama
That's like predicting snow in Alaska.
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Jack Wade
Apr 15 2011, 04:06 PM
Baldo
Apr 15 2011, 03:51 PM
I expect drama
That's like predicting snow in Alaska.
I really like to go out on a limb! :toast:
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Apr 15 2011, 04:35 PM
Jack Wade
Apr 15 2011, 04:06 PM
Baldo
Apr 15 2011, 03:51 PM
I expect drama
That's like predicting snow in Alaska.
I really like to go out on a limb! :toast:
LMAO!!!!!!


For some reason I believe Crystal would fit right in at a prison. She'd try to get something for nothing from others there and do a little less than the majority for anything she does get. I suspect she'd be big on doing all sorts of 'special favors', the currency there is one she is already familiar with.
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Woody Vann loves this, free advertising (though maybe not $2 million worth, eh Mikey?), he gets in good with the prosecutors, plays let's make a deal.

Notice how, as another said, we have come full circle, Crystal will be ready to start another loop de loop once the dust clears.
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~J~ is in Wonderland
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The charges will NOT be upgraded until the autopsy comes back.

jmoo- they want to know if cardiac arrest kill him or was his death a result of the stabbing.

Help me out here LS lawyers.

If he did die of cardiac arrest.........whats next?

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~J~ is in Wonderland
Apr 15 2011, 06:32 PM
Latest.......

The charges will NOT be upgraded until the autopsy comes back.

jmoo- they want to know if cardiac arrest kill him or was his death a result of the stabbing.

Help me out here LS lawyers.

If he did die of cardiac arrest.........whats next?

It will depend on the autopsy. If they find evidence from medical records, including the autopsy that he had some heart problems previous to meeting crystal then it may not be considered murder, but may refer back to assault with intent to kill. But if he had a great loss of blood, which seems plausible, then the stress of the knife wounds could cause the heart to stop. I believe I heard he may have had a couple of cardiac arrests. I dont believe they would call them heart attacks if it was the result of the assault. They would call them cardiac arrests, indicating to me no previous heart conditions. The seriousness of the wounds may not have been recognized immediately by any witnesses because Daye did walk to his nephews place. It would be similar to when Reagan got shot and they thought he was not seriously wounded until he showed signs at the hospital. They did put daye on life support pretty darn fast.

Just my opinion
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Quasimodo

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Apr 15 2011, 06:32 PM
Latest.......

The charges will NOT be upgraded until the autopsy comes back.

jmoo- they want to know if cardiac arrest kill him or was his death a result of the stabbing.

Help me out here LS lawyers.

If he did die of cardiac arrest.........whats next?

Is this how they usually handle domestic violence cases??

Clearly the man would have died anyway and Crystal's actions with the knife made no difference... (sarc/off)


I also wonder if they are looking for any drugs in his system which might have caused the heart to stop
(so that again, the knife wounds were irrelevant and he just died coincidental to his having been wounded)

But again--are all domestic violence cases handled like this?

And--are the police and the DA's office always to eager to exert themselves to find a line of defense
for an accused? (MOO)
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Mason
Apr 15 2011, 11:40 AM
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So, if Durham is tired of Crystal, do you think they would replace one councilmen that sided with her in an election?

Would they replace one elected official in Durham?

Would they support the Old City Mgr if they reversed his promotion and put him back in his job?

Would it interrupt Mayor Bell's status as Mayor for Life?

How about Tracey Cline? Would she win election today and would the local Papers clamor for her reelection?

I'm not so sure much has changed.








So, if Durham is tired of Crystal, do you think they would replace one councilmen that sided with her in an election? (Yes, Diane C. is not running again.)

Would they replace one elected official in Durham? ( Yes, one and maybe two)

Would they support the Old City Mgr if they reversed his promotion and put him back in his job? (NO)

Would it interrupt Mayor Bell's status as Mayor for Life? ( NO)

How about Tracey Cline? Would she win election today and would the local Papers clamor for her reelection? ( YES)

jmoo

I'm not so sure much has changed.


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One thing they cannot change. It's in the news again. It's a political issue. They want it to go away, but events keep interceding in their plans.

That's what we do here at liestoppers. We keep it front and center.
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~J~ is in Wonderland
Apr 15 2011, 06:32 PM
Latest.......

The charges will NOT be upgraded until the autopsy comes back.

jmoo- they want to know if cardiac arrest kill him or was his death a result of the stabbing.

Help me out here LS lawyers.

If he did die of cardiac arrest.........whats next?

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Well, color me shocked, Crystal's Defense lawyer is already applying the Pressure, and the Durham D.A.'s office is already giving her every benefit of the doubt. That's not the treatment of the average criminal defendant. If you attack a man and he dies, everyone from the cafeteria people at the prison on down knows what that means.

Just like the Durm Treatment rolled out for Crystal before, they don't want to unduly burden her. In fact, as I have said, they are trying their best to assist her.

It many times takes 6 weeks for those reports to come back. And who's to say that a man weakened and dispirited from the attack wouldn't have survived whatever event they are trying to dredge up, if he hadn't been brutally attacked?

He wouldn't have been lying prone in that Hospital for 10 days if he wasn't attacked.

Waiting to charge in and of itself, isn't the end of the world, but they're tipping their hand that Crystal is still viewed as one of theirs. The DA and the Defense Atty are going to do a little show-dance while eating lunch together every day and comparing notes together every night.

It look like more of the special treatment for Crystal. How long before we hear they won't bring up the Duke Lacrosse case or some other silly concession?

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Edited by Mason, Apr 15 2011, 07:37 PM.
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~J~ is in Wonderland
Apr 15 2011, 06:32 PM
Latest.......

The charges will NOT be upgraded until the autopsy comes back.

jmoo- they want to know if cardiac arrest kill him or was his death a result of the stabbing.

Help me out here LS lawyers.

If he did die of cardiac arrest.........whats next?

Many death certificates list cardiac arrest as the primary cause of death and then list the co-morbid factors. For example, if a patient dies of pneumonia or of kidney failure the proximate cause of death in both situations may be cardiac arrest.

The autopsy report is more helpful because it gives insight into the pathological processes that lead to death. Does the patient have pre-existing coronary artery disease? Are there signs of brain damage due to lack of oxygen? What organs were affected by the stab wounds to the torso?

Unfortunately it takes several weeks for autopsy results to become available.

However, I guess DA Cline is in no hurry. Crystal is locked up, and Cline would probably want to wait for the public furor to die down.
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Everyone here should request an autopsy report on this case. It would let them know we are watching them.

It works.
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Walt-in-Durham

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Apr 15 2011, 06:53 PM
But again--are all domestic violence cases handled like this?
Are you joking? A normal DV case, the state is throwing the book at the defendant.

Walt-in-Durham
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Apr 15 2011, 07:23 PM
Quasimodo
Apr 15 2011, 06:53 PM
But again--are all domestic violence cases handled like this?
Are you joking? A normal DV case, the state is throwing the book at the defendant.

Walt-in-Durham
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Before the death of Mr. Daye, I found one other instance in recent cases in that courthouse where her charge was lodged against a defendant as the lone charge. One.

One out of approx 35.


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Edited by Mason, Apr 15 2011, 07:26 PM.
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