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CGM's boyfriend died.; RIP Reginald Daye
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Apr 14 2011, 02:40 PM
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Hey there Jason, long time...
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Apr 14 2011, 03:05 PM
I apologize if this is duplicate.

http://www.wral.com/news/local/story/9441081/

"(This is) a tragic situation all the way around," said Jackie Wagstaff, a former member of the Durham City Council and the Durham County Board of Education and a long-time supporter of Mangum.

'"My heart goes out to the family of (Daye)," Wagstaff said, adding that she worries that Mangum will be tried based on her past. "Her fate has been sealed in the court of public opinion because of Duke lacrosse."

In March 2006, Mangum claimed three white players on the Duke lacrosse team trapped her inside a bathroom at 610 N. Buchanan Blvd., where she was performing as a stripper at a team party, and raped and sexually assaulted her.

Her story about the incident was so inconsistent that state officials later declared the players innocent, saying there was no credible evidence against them.

"I just want people to wait and don’t jump to any conclusions. There are always two sides to the story,” Vincent Clark, who wrote a book with Mangum about her experience in the lacrosse case, said Thursday after hearing of Daye's death.

In February 2010, police arrested Mangum after an altercation between her and a different boyfriend. In that incident, she was accused of assaulting the man in front of her children and setting some of his clothes on fire.

She was convicted in December of child abuse, injury to personal property and resisting a public officer in the case, but prosecutors dismissed an arson charge after a jury couldn't reach a verdict.

Jury forewoman Shauna Mitchell said Thursday that she and her fellow jurors followed the law in determining there wasn't enough evidence to convict Mangum of arson, which was the most serious charge in the case.

"I think that it’s very unfortunate that it happened," Mitchell said of Daye's death. "It still doesn’t change the verdict we came up with."
OK, OK, all of the most cynical of LieStoppers were right about the way Durham would spin the murder accusation.
"Cynical" is wrong. Wary, suspicious, jaded, realistic, resigned, experienced, shrewd, wise . . . .
Edited by Payback, Apr 14 2011, 05:37 PM.
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Here we go.......Mangum was defending herself according to the 6:00 news.

surprise surprise surpriseeeee
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Woody Vann argued into the Silly Days (when everyone knew what it was) that multiple stories by the accuser simply meant there had to be a Trial. Funny Position for a Defense lawyer, eh?

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First, let me repeat the caution that Mangum is innocent until proven guilty.


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Apr 14 2011, 11:57 AM
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Apr 14 2011, 11:51 AM
Have new charges been filed yet? If not, why not?
I had the same question.

I imagine Cline had a bad night...
I expect there may be alot of discussion on how to handle this. jmo


Don't you think Cline will turn this over to the folks in Raleigh?


I think Cline’s preferred method of dealing with the case would be to keep Mangum in jail for two years then have her plead guilty to manslaughter after everyone has cooled down.



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(Stuff about Hardin)


Given that several of Nifong’s assistant DAs continued to condone his actions even after he was disbarred, Governor Easley really needed to appoint a replacement who would go into that office and make everyone there justify their existence with the assumption that most of them would be fired. Instead, Easley pulled Hardin off the bench and put him back in that office to stabilize the situation.



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I will tell you that the defense will be this: Crystal Mangum was doing well until those Duke lacrosse players raped and beat her. (Ask the Duke administration; they'll tell you that is what happened.)

From there, however, her life spiraled downward and she had a flashback to the rape when she stabbed Daye to death. Not everyone in Durham will buy that story, but enough will to enable her to have a hung jury, with the prosecution dropping all charges because it cannot get a conviction.

Look, a lot of people in Durham and at Duke invested everything in Crystal's hoax. They won't stop now; they'll just get more creative -- if that is possible


Indeed, when you look at the incidents prior to the lacrosse case involving the taxi and the assault on the female patron at the strip club, the lacrosse players injured her so badly that she suffers from pre-traumatic stress syndrome as well.



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Woody Vann argued into the Silly Days (when everyone knew what it was) that multiple stories by the accuser simply meant there had to be a Trial. Funny Position for a Defense lawyer, eh?

Of her trying to Run over a Cop, Vann said, it was a Mistake.

Of her false accusations, Vann said, people have done worse.

I was told he said he's representing Crystal because -- It's the Right Thing to do.

Where have we heard that before?

One of Durm Justice' Bail Bondsman said the same thing as he Ponied up the Money to keep Crystal out on the Streets and in the Hood.

Seems like when you really don't want to say why you support Crystal, you just revert to the -
Doing the Right Thing, crap.

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Edited by Mason, Apr 14 2011, 05:25 PM.
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Apr 14 2011, 04:53 PM
Hey there Jason, long time...


:rose:

I have been around. My old computer died and I lost my login info so I could not login as myself for a while.


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Jackie Wagstaff, Vince Clark and all the other enablers do not represent how Durham will react to this murder. If Jackie Wagstaff was that popular she would have been reelected to the school board and or the city council. Instead she was accused of wrongdoing and lost. But she is a loser to many backs and whites in Durham. I am sorry to be defending Durham, but it is not represented by Jackie Wagstaff. She just speaks the loudest like all radicals speak the loudest.

I believe she said the exact same words this time as she did last time mangum was in jail. She cant even be innovative enough to change her story.
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I think Logic and reasonable behavior is what many of us are considering.

Don't be so sure they won't try to bail Crystal and let her out and on the Town while they decide what to do and eventually have to have a trial.

If the past is any predictor, Crystal being out for 2 years before going before a Jury with the Proclivity to excuse her is not out of the Question.

I will say - she's in more trouble than she has been, but her Formula hasn't been stopped yet.

I'm not ready to say it's going to be Law and Order in that Durham courtroom.

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HERE IT IS: THE AP STORYLINE!!
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http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5jTeBz22nX4Rv9t6jX4aXgmIZEwpg?docId=6409b24ca27b4e18960b58bddead7d3e

Stab charge adds to Duke lacrosse accuser's slide

RALEIGH, N.C. (AP) — The label "discredited Duke lacrosse accuser" has been attached to Crystal Mangum for nearly four years since North Carolina's top prosecutor determined she'd falsely accused three players of raping her at a party. When the accusations unraveled, it marked the beginning of a slide into erratic and violent behavior. Now, a boyfriend she's accused of stabbing has died — which could land her in the most serious trouble yet.

Mangum has been jailed on an assault charge since the April 3 argument that ended with the stabbing of Reginald Daye, but police say the man's death on Wednesday could bring more serious charges. It's the latest in a series of problems with the law that included her conviction last year on misdemeanor charges after setting a fire that nearly torched her home with her three children inside.

The Duke lacrosse case still touches raw nerves in Durham. Unable to find steady work because of her notoriety, Mangum has been involved in a string of unhappy relationships that she hoped would provide stability for her children, friends say.

"It's Crystal Mangum. THE Crystal Mangum," Daye's nephew said in a 911 call after the stabbing at the apartment the couple shared. "I told him she was trouble from the damn beginning."

A spotlight has been on Mangum, 32, since she said she was raped at a 2006 party where she was working as a stripper. A year later, the state attorney general concluded there was no credible evidence of an attack and that the three accused men were innocent.


The district attorney who championed Mangum's claims was disbarred and spent a night in jail. The state considered charges against Mangum but declined to pursue them, partly citing her mental state.

"I've talked to her time and time again about trying to move on from the Duke thing and trying to get her life in order, and every time she takes steps toward that, a boyfriend thing comes up," said Vincent Clark, who befriended her at the time of the rape accusations and went on to co-author her self-published memoir, "The Last Dance for Grace."

Last year, she was arrested and charged with setting a blaze at her home during an argument with a different boyfriend. During a videotaped police interrogation hours after her arrest, she said she set fire to the boyfriend's clothes, smashed the windshield of his car, and threatened to stab him during their confrontation. In December, a jury deadlocked on the arson charge, convicting her of related misdemeanors. If she had been convicted of arson, she could have been sentenced to up to seven years in prison.
"She's desperately looking for a man to help her out with her kids," said Clark, who describes Mangum as quiet, funny and a voracious consumer of the news. "She gets laid off from a job, she takes up with a guy, the guy's kind of questionable, but it provides a way to help support her kids."

Friends say she considered leaving Durham for a place where her name isn't as well known, but was daunted by the prospects of uprooting her family.

"It's easy for outsiders to say she should leave Durham, but how do you do that with three children? Moving costs money," said Jackie Wagstaff, a former Durham City Council and school board member who was an outspoken supportive presence at Mangum's trial last year.

"She's not the monster she's been painted to be," said Wagstaff, who spent last Christmas with Mangum and her children.

But having a group of supporters has insulated Mangum from the full consequences of her actions, argued KC Johnson, a Brooklyn College history professor who co-wrote the book "Until Proven Innocent" about the Duke lacrosse case and blogged about Mangum's trial last year.

"It's incredibly sad, because she was given an opportunity to move beyond this," he said. "What makes this particularly tragic is that if the previous trial had ended differently, none of this would have occurred."

Durham police are still investigating Daye's death, and anticipate filing new charges, spokeswoman Kammie Michael said Thursday. Mangum's lawyer, Harold "Woody" Vann, said she'll plead not guilty to the current assault charge, but declined to comment further on the case.

"I have met with her since being appointed, but I haven't had a chance to talk to her about (Daye's death)," he said. "I will do that if and when they upgrade the charges."

Phone messages left with Daye's relatives were not immediately returned Thursday.

Wagstaff and Clark say they continue to support Mangum, and want to know more about the circumstances of Daye's death. The hospital where the 46-year-old died declined to say what caused his death.

"Don't be so quick to judge," Wagstaff said. "Let the criminal justice system work, if it can."

Associated Press writers Renee Elder and Emery Dalesio contributed to this report.


IF THIS IS AP AND IT GOES OUT ALL OVER THE NATION, THEN THIS IS GOING TO BECOME THE CONTROLLING STORY.

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Edited by Quasimodo, Apr 14 2011, 05:35 PM.
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Apr 14 2011, 05:23 PM
Jackie Wagstaff, Vince Clark and all the other enablers do not represent how Durham will react to this murder. If Jackie Wagstaff was that popular she would have been reelected to the school board and or the city council. Instead she was accused of wrongdoing and lost. But she is a loser to many backs and whites in Durham. I am sorry to be defending Durham, but it is not represented by Jackie Wagstaff. She just speaks the loudest like all radicals speak the loudest.

I believe she said the exact same words this time as she did last time mangum was in jail. She cant even be innovative enough to change her story.
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Not to argue with you Chatham, but we also must consider Prof Coleman (Duke) rolling around in it (happily) because essentially everyone in Power in Durham was reelected after the Duke Lacrosse Fiasco.

The same bunch was reupped - even after it was apparent they participated in the Public Lynching - and had no interest in finding the Truth.

That's the other side of the Coin.


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Apr 14 2011, 05:33 PM
HERE IT IS: THE AP STORYLINE!!
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http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5jTeBz22nX4Rv9t6jX4aXgmIZEwpg?docId=6409b24ca27b4e18960b58bddead7d3e

Stab charge adds to Duke lacrosse accuser's slide

RALEIGH, N.C. (AP) — The label "discredited Duke lacrosse accuser" has been attached to Crystal Mangum for nearly four years since North Carolina's top prosecutor determined she'd falsely accused three players of raping her at a party. When the accusations unraveled, it marked the beginning of a slide into erratic and violent behavior. Now, a boyfriend she's accused of stabbing has died — which could land her in the most serious trouble yet.

Mangum has been jailed on an assault charge since the April 3 argument that ended with the stabbing of Reginald Daye, but police say the man's death on Wednesday could bring more serious charges. It's the latest in a series of problems with the law that included her conviction last year on misdemeanor charges after setting a fire that nearly torched her home with her three children inside.

The Duke lacrosse case still touches raw nerves in Durham. Unable to find steady work because of her notoriety, Mangum has been involved in a string of unhappy relationships that she hoped would provide stability for her children, friends say.

"It's Crystal Mangum. THE Crystal Mangum," Daye's nephew said in a 911 call after the stabbing at the apartment the couple shared. "I told him she was trouble from the damn beginning."

A spotlight has been on Mangum, 32, since she said she was raped at a 2006 party where she was working as a stripper. A year later, the state attorney general concluded there was no credible evidence of an attack and that the three accused men were innocent.


The district attorney who championed Mangum's claims was disbarred and spent a night in jail. The state considered charges against Mangum but declined to pursue them, partly citing her mental state.

"I've talked to her time and time again about trying to move on from the Duke thing and trying to get her life in order, and every time she takes steps toward that, a boyfriend thing comes up," said Vincent Clark, who befriended her at the time of the rape accusations and went on to co-author her self-published memoir, "The Last Dance for Grace."

Last year, she was arrested and charged with setting a blaze at her home during an argument with a different boyfriend. During a videotaped police interrogation hours after her arrest, she said she set fire to the boyfriend's clothes, smashed the windshield of his car, and threatened to stab him during their confrontation. In December, a jury deadlocked on the arson charge, convicting her of related misdemeanors. If she had been convicted of arson, she could have been sentenced to up to seven years in prison.
"She's desperately looking for a man to help her out with her kids," said Clark, who describes Mangum as quiet, funny and a voracious consumer of the news. "She gets laid off from a job, she takes up with a guy, the guy's kind of questionable, but it provides a way to help support her kids."

Friends say she considered leaving Durham for a place where her name isn't as well known, but was daunted by the prospects of uprooting her family.

"It's easy for outsiders to say she should leave Durham, but how do you do that with three children? Moving costs money," said Jackie Wagstaff, a former Durham City Council and school board member who was an outspoken supportive presence at Mangum's trial last year.

"She's not the monster she's been painted to be," said Wagstaff, who spent last Christmas with Mangum and her children.

But having a group of supporters has insulated Mangum from the full consequences of her actions, argued KC Johnson, a Brooklyn College history professor who co-wrote the book "Until Proven Innocent" about the Duke lacrosse case and blogged about Mangum's trial last year.

"It's incredibly sad, because she was given an opportunity to move beyond this," he said. "What makes this particularly tragic is that if the previous trial had ended differently, none of this would have occurred."

Durham police are still investigating Daye's death, and anticipate filing new charges, spokeswoman Kammie Michael said Thursday. Mangum's lawyer, Harold "Woody" Vann, said she'll plead not guilty to the current assault charge, but declined to comment further on the case.

"I have met with her since being appointed, but I haven't had a chance to talk to her about (Daye's death)," he said. "I will do that if and when they upgrade the charges."

Phone messages left with Daye's relatives were not immediately returned Thursday.

Wagstaff and Clark say they continue to support Mangum, and want to know more about the circumstances of Daye's death. The hospital where the 46-year-old died declined to say what caused his death.

"Don't be so quick to judge," Wagstaff said. "Let the criminal justice system work, if it can."

Associated Press writers Renee Elder and Emery Dalesio contributed to this report.


IF THIS IS AP AND IT GOES OUT ALL OVER THE NATION, THEN THIS IS GOING TO BECOME THE CONTROLLING STORY.

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I double posted with you. This is outrageous. It leaves out the first accusations and the attempot to run over the police officer.
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Apr 14 2011, 05:33 PM
HERE IT IS: THE AP STORYLINE!!
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http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5jTeBz22nX4Rv9t6jX4aXgmIZEwpg?docId=6409b24ca27b4e18960b58bddead7d3e

Stab charge adds to Duke lacrosse accuser's slide

RALEIGH, N.C. (AP) — The label "discredited Duke lacrosse accuser" has been attached to Crystal Mangum for nearly four years since North Carolina's top prosecutor determined she'd falsely accused three players of raping her at a party. When the accusations unraveled, it marked the beginning of a slide into erratic and violent behavior. Now, a boyfriend she's accused of stabbing has died — which could land her in the most serious trouble yet.

Mangum has been jailed on an assault charge since the April 3 argument that ended with the stabbing of Reginald Daye, but police say the man's death on Wednesday could bring more serious charges. It's the latest in a series of problems with the law that included her conviction last year on misdemeanor charges after setting a fire that nearly torched her home with her three children inside.

The Duke lacrosse case still touches raw nerves in Durham. Unable to find steady work because of her notoriety, Mangum has been involved in a string of unhappy relationships that she hoped would provide stability for her children, friends say.

"It's Crystal Mangum. THE Crystal Mangum," Daye's nephew said in a 911 call after the stabbing at the apartment the couple shared. "I told him she was trouble from the damn beginning."

A spotlight has been on Mangum, 32, since she said she was raped at a 2006 party where she was working as a stripper. A year later, the state attorney general concluded there was no credible evidence of an attack and that the three accused men were innocent.


The district attorney who championed Mangum's claims was disbarred and spent a night in jail. The state considered charges against Mangum but declined to pursue them, partly citing her mental state.

"I've talked to her time and time again about trying to move on from the Duke thing and trying to get her life in order, and every time she takes steps toward that, a boyfriend thing comes up," said Vincent Clark, who befriended her at the time of the rape accusations and went on to co-author her self-published memoir, "The Last Dance for Grace."

Last year, she was arrested and charged with setting a blaze at her home during an argument with a different boyfriend. During a videotaped police interrogation hours after her arrest, she said she set fire to the boyfriend's clothes, smashed the windshield of his car, and threatened to stab him during their confrontation. In December, a jury deadlocked on the arson charge, convicting her of related misdemeanors. If she had been convicted of arson, she could have been sentenced to up to seven years in prison.
"She's desperately looking for a man to help her out with her kids," said Clark, who describes Mangum as quiet, funny and a voracious consumer of the news. "She gets laid off from a job, she takes up with a guy, the guy's kind of questionable, but it provides a way to help support her kids."

Friends say she considered leaving Durham for a place where her name isn't as well known, but was daunted by the prospects of uprooting her family.

"It's easy for outsiders to say she should leave Durham, but how do you do that with three children? Moving costs money," said Jackie Wagstaff, a former Durham City Council and school board member who was an outspoken supportive presence at Mangum's trial last year.

"She's not the monster she's been painted to be," said Wagstaff, who spent last Christmas with Mangum and her children.

But having a group of supporters has insulated Mangum from the full consequences of her actions, argued KC Johnson, a Brooklyn College history professor who co-wrote the book "Until Proven Innocent" about the Duke lacrosse case and blogged about Mangum's trial last year.

"It's incredibly sad, because she was given an opportunity to move beyond this," he said. "What makes this particularly tragic is that if the previous trial had ended differently, none of this would have occurred."

Durham police are still investigating Daye's death, and anticipate filing new charges, spokeswoman Kammie Michael said Thursday. Mangum's lawyer, Harold "Woody" Vann, said she'll plead not guilty to the current assault charge, but declined to comment further on the case.

"I have met with her since being appointed, but I haven't had a chance to talk to her about (Daye's death)," he said. "I will do that if and when they upgrade the charges."

Phone messages left with Daye's relatives were not immediately returned Thursday.

Wagstaff and Clark say they continue to support Mangum, and want to know more about the circumstances of Daye's death. The hospital where the 46-year-old died declined to say what caused his death.

"Don't be so quick to judge," Wagstaff said. "Let the criminal justice system work, if it can."

Associated Press writers Renee Elder and Emery Dalesio contributed to this report.


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I think the Best antiseptic for these Lies is her "Driver" Jarriel Johnson's handwritten statement to Police detailing Crystal's life in the days BEFORE the Duke Party accusations.

She was an absent Mother then. She was committed to a Mental institution about a year before her Famous False accusations. She was expelled from the Navy for trouble.

UNC Doctors had already put an order in her file saying DO NOT PRESCRIBE PAINKILLERS - saying she was a Drug Seeker.

She had admitted to Dealing Drugs prior to the False accusations.

She already had her License revoked Multiple times prior to the False accusations.

She didn't have a Job or reportable income (not on her Tax Returns) - before the Duke False accusations.

She was routinely in scrapes, fights, and affrays in the early mornings before the 2006 False allegations.

She was performing in Hotels with Vibrators for Money and walking the Streets propositioning Older Men before the Duke False Report.

She had already made what Police deemed as a False allegation in reporting that her Husband was trying to Kill her, and she failed to show for Court for those allegations, all before the Duke
Lies.

What exactly started after the Duke allegations? Nothing, it was just more of the Same. It was Crystal Being Crystal.

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What Quasi Posted is the NEW NARRATIVE.



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Edited by Mason, Apr 14 2011, 05:44 PM.
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