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Crystal Mangum Arrested Overnight - 4/3/11; Who didn't see this coming?
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Apr 5 2011, 08:27 PM
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SENTENCE TYPE 1: PROBATION

SENTENCE TYPE 2: SUSPENED SENTENCE

CONCURRENT TO SENTENCE NUMBER :03-001

DOCKET # 02049956

OFFENSE (QUALIFIER) : SPEEDING ELUDE ARREST OR/ APPEMPT. (PRINCIPAL)

OFFENSE DATE: 06/21/2002

TYPE: MISD.

SENTENCE PENALTY CLASS CODE: CLASS 1 MISDEMEANOR SS


How did stealing a taxi, and attempting to run down an officer with it,
morph into a misdemeanor speeding with community service and probation?

(I guess if you know everybody in the courthouse then it's pretty easy; Woody Vann is
your attorney, he's a friend of Nifong, Nifong and Cy are friends with myriad judges,
etc. etc.

(But this more than beggers the point that Nifong must have known about Crystal's rape
charges before he just happened to see the NTO on a xerox machine.)
Durham justice at work.....anywhere else the taxi stealing lowlife would be in state lock-up.
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Apr 5 2011, 08:28 PM
Friends, give it a rest. Crystal is a sideshow, in more ways than one. She cannot stand to be out of the limelight. And frankly, the poor woman is a nut. She doesn't know up from down or truth from fiction. The civil suits are the issue don't let her distract you.

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I'm only interested insofar as her relationships with everyone in Durham make
it plain that no one in the justice system could reasonably have believed her
gang-rape story.

And that a tight-knit group which controlled the courthouse must have known it was a frame-up;

and either abetted it or did nothing to stop it.

And even helped cover it up (Whichard) afterward.
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I would enjoy seeing Judge Whichard subpoenaed. I think his conversations with Hodge clearly are germane to the suits.
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Apr 5 2011, 08:28 PM
Friends, give it a rest. Crystal is a sideshow, in more ways than one. She cannot stand to be out of the limelight. And frankly, the poor woman is a nut. She doesn't know up from down or truth from fiction. The civil suits are the issue don't let her distract you.

Walt-in-Durham
You are correct to the extent that under-oath discovery is our goal.

But the Crystal side-show put the story back on the front pages over the last 48 hours, when the Beaty decision of last week was getting no news traction at all.

And this is still a political case more than a legal case. And I know politics and I know news.
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Apr 5 2011, 08:43 PM
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Apr 5 2011, 08:28 PM
Friends, give it a rest. Crystal is a sideshow, in more ways than one. She cannot stand to be out of the limelight. And frankly, the poor woman is a nut. She doesn't know up from down or truth from fiction. The civil suits are the issue don't let her distract you.

Walt-in-Durham
You are correct to the extent that under-oath discovery is our goal.

But the Crystal side-show put the story back on the front pages over the last 48 hours, when the Beaty decision of last week was getting no news traction at all.

And this is still a political case more than a legal case. And I know politics and I know news.
Without Crystal there would be no story, no false accusation, no political narrative about race and class, no declaration of innocence, no lawsuits nor ongoing distortion of the facts. Crystal is the house of cards upon which this entire hoax was built. She is germane and until she and her entourage of enablers are put in their place permanently and totally discredited, she will always be central to this case. Otherwise, I agree with you.
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Apr 5 2011, 08:48 PM
Without Crystal there would be no story, no false accusation, no declaration of innocence, no lawsuits nor ongoing distortion of the facts. Crystal is the house of cards upon which this entire hoax was built.
Crystal was merely the catalyst for this frame. She was the excuse. Without her there have been many, many DPD frames. Crystal and Nifong's arrogance let the first rays of sunlight shine on the corruption that is "justice" in Durham.
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Apr 5 2011, 08:43 PM
Walt-in-Durham
Apr 5 2011, 08:28 PM
Friends, give it a rest. Crystal is a sideshow, in more ways than one. She cannot stand to be out of the limelight. And frankly, the poor woman is a nut. She doesn't know up from down or truth from fiction. The civil suits are the issue don't let her distract you.

Walt-in-Durham
You are correct to the extent that under-oath discovery is our goal.

But the Crystal side-show put the story back on the front pages over the last 48 hours, when the Beaty decision of last week was getting no news traction at all.

And this is still a political case more than a legal case. And I know politics and I know news.
I agree abb.

This tread also educates the folks who just read (non members). It also helps some of the media that need to be spoon fed by, providing links, documents ect.

Oh, did I forget to mention that we have some very smart attorneys on board? :)


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Apr 5 2011, 08:43 PM
Walt-in-Durham
Apr 5 2011, 08:28 PM
Friends, give it a rest. Crystal is a sideshow, in more ways than one. She cannot stand to be out of the limelight. And frankly, the poor woman is a nut. She doesn't know up from down or truth from fiction. The civil suits are the issue don't let her distract you.

Walt-in-Durham
You are correct to the extent that under-oath discovery is our goal.

But the Crystal side-show put the story back on the front pages over the last 48 hours, when the Beaty decision of last week was getting no news traction at all.

And this is still a political case more than a legal case. And I know politics and I know news.
A very responsible post from Walt-in-Durham and a very responsible post from abb.

As I scanned the 20 or 30 posts before Walt's I found myself feeling dirtier and dirtier from association with the Durham lowlife and the low Durham middle class life. Getting to be enough of the sordidness, I was feeling by the time I got to Walt. Yet like abb I think the more discussion now the better. I have been retooling old Brodhead pieces for my blog, and they are being read in odd places, a couple in China every day, for example. The "Troth and Consequences" article had a big day with a couple of dozen hits. I think every poster here is doing his or her part to put the pressure of publicity on very incompetent and bad people in positions of power. Surely having all this information (not just opinion but information) on the Internet has an effect on the lawyers for Duke and Durham. And we are learning things. I wish some of you would read what I posted about Brodhead's 5 April 2006 statement. If I am reading it aright, and I really tried, at one point he inadvertently reveals that he believed the lacrosse players were guilty. If I'm right, that's worth publicizing. [I'm going by sentence structure.]
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By all means, Payback Please publish the Brodhead statement. This is the first I have heard of such an admission. it would be good to see the source for this.
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Apr 5 2011, 09:06 PM
By all means, Payback Please publish the Brodhead statement. This is the first I have heard of such an admission. it would be good to see the source for this.
I posted it after Bill's good long piece. I will find it and put it here.


I'm going to post this here because Bill mentioned the 5 April 2006 letter. I have put this on my blog and facebooked and tweeted it.

BRODHEAD's letter:
DURHAM, N.C. -- April 5, 2006
A Letter to the Duke Community
Allegations against members of the Duke lacrosse team stemming from the party on the evening of March 13 have deeply troubled me and everyone else at this university and our surrounding city. We can’t be surprised at the outpouring of outrage. Rape is the substitution of raw power for love, brutality for tenderness, and dehumanization for intimacy. It is also the crudest assertion of inequality, a way to show that the strong are superior to the weak and can rightfully use them as the objects of their pleasure. When reports of racial abuse are added to the mix, the evil is compounded, reviving memories of the systematic racial oppression we had hoped to have left behind us.

THAT IS BRODHEAD’S OPENING, AND HE GOES ON ABOUT HOW SERIOUS THE ALLEGATIONS ARE AND THE PUNISHMENT THAT WILL FOLLOW IF THE ALLEGATIONS ARE UPHELD. HE GOES BEYOND THE ALLEGATIONS OF RAPE AND SODOMY:
But it is clear that the acts the police are investigating are only part of the problem. This episode has touched off angers, fears, resentments, and suspicions that range far beyond this immediate cause. It has done so because the episode has brought to glaring visibility underlying issues that have been of concern on this campus and in this town for some time—issues that are not unique to Duke or Durham but that have been brought to the fore in our midst. They include concerns of women about sexual coercion and assault. They include concerns about the culture of certain student groups that regularly abuse alcohol and the attitudes these groups promote. They include concerns about the survival of the legacy of racism, the most hateful feature American history has produced.

BRODHEAD IDENTIFIES DUKE’S PROBLEMS AS BEING CLASS-BASED, RICH VS POOR:
Compounding and intensifying these issues of race and gender, they include concerns about the deep structures of inequality in our society—inequalities of wealth, privilege, and opportunity (including educational opportunity), and the attitudes of superiority those inequalities breed.

[BRODHEAD TAKES ON COLLECTIVE GUILT FOR DUKE AND UNIVERSITIES LIKE DUKE:]
And they include concerns that, whether they intend to or not, universities like Duke participate in this inequality and supply a home for a culture of privilege.

NO BREAK HERE: BRODHEAD CONTINUES:
The objection of our East Campus neighbors was a reaction to an attitude of arrogant inconsiderateness that reached its peak in the alleged event but that had long preceded it. I know that to many in our community, this student behavior has seemed to be the face of Duke.

IS IT CLEAR WHAT BRODHEAD HAS SAID HERE? “The East Campus neighbors” are Durham citizens who live near 610 North Buchanan Street, where two stippers were hired in the expectation that they would be competent enough to perform a dance before members of the lacrosse team. Brodhead is talking about an attitude of “arrogant inconsiderateness” which he says the lacrosse players displayed toward their neighbors. He says as a fact that the attitude of arrogant inconsiderateness “reached its peak in the alleged event.”

NO, NO, NO!
BRODHEAD MIGHT TRUTHFULLY HAVE SAID THAT THE NEIGHBORS (JUDGING HASTILY BY WHAT THEY HAD HEARD ABOUT A RAPE COMMITTED AT 610 NORTH BUCHANAN) DECIDED THAT THE ARROGANT BEHAVIOR OF THE LACROSSE PLAYERS HAD PEAKED IN THE ALLEGED RAPE.

I DON’T SEE HOW YOU CAN READ THIS AND NOT THINK BRODHEAD IS TELLING THE DURHAM EAST CAMPUS NEIGHBORS THAT HE BELIEVES THE “ALLEGED EVENT” TOOK PLACE: OTHERWISE HE WOULD NOT HAVE SAID THAT THE ATTITUDE OF ARROGANT INCONSIDERATENESS PEAKED AT THE EVENT. HE WOULD HAVE PUT THE ONUS ON THE NEIGHBORS FOR BELIEVING THAT A BAD ATTITUDE PEAKED THEN.

Brodhead’s rhetoric trips him up: He had prejudged the lacrosse players.
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From: President Richard H. Brodhead
Date: Apr 5, 2006 11:42 PM
Subject: A Response to the Duke Lacrosse Situation
To: XXXX XXXXX@duke.edu

April 5, 2006

A Letter to the Duke Community

I want to speak to the issue that is troubling our community and announce five steps we are taking to address it.

Allegations against members of the Duke lacrosse team stemming from the party on the evening of March 13 have deeply troubled me and everyone else at this university and our surrounding city. We can't be surprised at the outpouring of outrage. Rape is the substitution of raw power for love, brutality for tenderness, and dehumanization for intimacy. It is also the crudest assertion of inequality, a way to show that the strong are superior to the weak and can rightfully use them as the objects of their pleasure. When reports of racial abuse are added to the mix, the evil is compounded, reviving memories of the systematic racial oppression we had hoped to have left behind us.

If the allegations are verified, what happened would be a deep violation of fundamental ethical principles and among the most serious crimes known to the legal system. Such conduct is completely unacceptable both within the university and in our society at large. If the truth of the allegations is upheld, it will call for severe punishment from the courts and from Duke's disciplinary system. This university has cooperated and will continue to cooperate to the fullest to speed the ongoing investigation by the police, and I pledge that Duke will respond with appropriate seriousness when the truth is established.

But it is clear that the acts the police are investigating are only part of the problem. This episode has touched off angers, fears, resentments, and suspicions that range far beyond this immediate cause. It has done so because the episode has brought to glaring visibility underlying issues that have been of concern on this campus and in this town for some time -- issues that are not unique to Duke or Durham but that have been brought to the fore in our midst. They include concerns of women about sexual coercion and assault. They include concerns about the culture of certain student groups that regularly abuse alcohol and the attitudes these groups promote. They include concerns about the survival of the legacy of racism, the most hateful feature American history has produced.

Compounding and intensifying these issues of race and gender, they include concerns about the deep structures of inequality in our society -- inequalities of wealth, privilege, and opportunity (including educational opportunity), and the attitudes of superiority those inequalities breed. And they include concerns that, whether they intend to or not, universities like Duke participate in this inequality and supply a home for a culture of privilege. The objection of our East Campus neighbors was a reaction to an attitude of arrogant inconsiderateness that reached its peak in the alleged event but that had long preceded it. I know that to many in our community, this student behavior has seemed to be the face of Duke.

Given the history of this campus and city, this has been particularly painful. Only forty years ago, the first African American student was admitted to Duke and at that time men and women lived on separate campuses. Today, more than one-third of Duke undergraduates are members of minority groups. Many, many dedicated members of the Duke and Durham communities have worked hard to bring us all forward. Duke has worked to be a good neighbor, supporting health care, K-12 education, affordable housing, neighborhood stabilization, and economic development through the Duke-Durham Neighborhood Partnership. Duke is not, as some have reported, just an institution for the children of wealthy families. This university admits undergraduates without regard to their family's ability to pay, and we invest more than $50 million a year to enable the 40% of students who receive grant aid to afford a Duke education. Duke's Women's Initiative, launched by my predecessor Nannerl Keohane, took the national lead in exploring issues of gender inequality across the university. Perhaps most important, I know -- and I suspect our students' harshest critics know too -- that the huge majority of Duke students are well-behaved and good-hearted, and many work hard for the larger social good.

But if the dark aspect is not the whole truth, this is not a moment to take comfort or mount defenses. To get the good of the current situation, we all need to face up to the profoundly serious issues that recent events have brought to light and address them in a positive, substantive, and ongoing way. If none of these issues is peculiar to Duke, that's no reason why we should refuse to address them in our midst. As we decide what steps to take, let me underline the values that must govern our actions.

The university is guided by the principles of openness, inclusiveness, mutual toleration, and mutual respect. Everything that furthers these causes advances our ability to work together toward the truth no individual or group can reach alone. Everything that hinders these causes retards the search for wisdom and knowledge. The university is also founded on the principle that we have an obligation to seek the truth, and that truth is established through evidence and disciplined inquiry. Reaching certainty without evidence or process is a double wrong in a university because it opens the door to injustice and violates our commitment to the truth.

In keeping with these values, I want to announce five steps Duke will take to address the issues before us. Some will be accomplished in a short period of time; others will require our sustained attention.

1. Investigation of men's lacrosse. In regard to men's lacrosse, I have announced today that the men's lacrosse season and all associated activities have been cancelled. Lacrosse coach Mike Pressler submitted his resignation today to Athletics Director Joe Alleva and it was accepted, effective immediately.

The criminal allegations against members of the team must continue to be investigated by the Durham police and we will continue to cooperate with that investigation to the fullest. Many have urged me to have Duke conduct its own inquiry into these charges. Frustrating though it is, Duke must defer its own investigation until the police inquiry is completed, first because the police have access to key witnesses, warrants, and information that we lack, and second because our concurrent questioning could create a risk of complications -- for instance, charges of witness tampering -- that could negatively affect the legal proceedings. I assure you, however, that the Duke disciplinary system will be brought to bear as soon as this can appropriately be done. Until that time, I urge us to be patient and remind ourselves that allegations have been made, the team has denied them, and we must wait until the authorities act before reaching any judgment in the criminal case.

Quite separate from the criminal allegations, there have been reports of persistent problems involving the men's lacrosse team, including racist language and a pattern of alcohol abuse and disorderly behavior. These are quite separate from the criminal allegations, and these we will address at once. The Athletic Council, the body with oversight of athletics in Duke's governance system, is the right group to perform this investigation. The Executive Committee of the Academic Council and I have asked a faculty subcommittee of the Athletic Council to investigate all the evidence regarding objectionable behavior prior to March 13. The intention here is not to single out the behavior of individuals but to understand the extent to which the cumulative behavior of many over a number of years signifies a deeper problem for which significant corrective actions are called for. I have asked this group to report its findings and to make any recommendations it may have by May 1. I am pleased that Professor James Coleman of the Duke Law School, an Athletic Council member, has agreed to chair this committee.

2. Investigation of Duke Administration Response. I have heard a good deal of criticism of the Duke administration for being slow to respond to the allegations against the team associated with March 13. At meetings with faculty, students, community members, and others, I have explained why it took time to know how to respond: we learned the full magnitude of the allegations only gradually, as police and other information was reported in the media, and indeed it appears it took the police themselves some time to understand the nature of the case. Nevertheless, I want to address the concern that my administration did not respond as quickly as we should have and to learn any lessons this episode can teach. To that end, I have asked two individuals with outstanding experience in higher education and civil rights to look into the role of the Duke administration and Duke Athletics in handling this episode. I am grateful to William Bowen, President of the Andrew Mellon Foundation and former President of Princeton University, and Julius Chambers, former Director-Counsel of the NAACP Legal Defense and Educational Fund and past Chancellor of North Carolina Central University, for agreeing to take on this task. They have agreed to report their findings and make any recommendations to me by May 15.

3. Examination of student judicial process and practices. Questions have been raised within the Duke and Durham communities about the way Duke deals with problems of student behavior and the applicability of our Community Standard to social life. The Executive Committee of the Academic Council has charged the Council's Student Affairs Committee, chaired by Professor Prasad Kasibhatla, to study Duke's existing judicial processes and practices for students and make any recommendations for change to the administration and faculty by June 1.

4. Campus Culture Initiative. Duke traditionally has given its students a great deal of freedom, but at times the exercise of that freedom is not matched with a commensurate sense of responsibility. We must be concerned about issues of campus culture this episode has raised quite apart from the lacrosse team. This is a time for Duke to take a hard look at our institutional practices to assess the extent to which they do, or do not, promote the values we expect students to live by.

I have asked Vice Provost for Undergraduate Education and Dean of Trinity College Robert Thompson to direct a Campus Culture Initiative involving faculty, students, and staff. The task of the Initiative is to evaluate and suggest improvements in the ways Duke educates students in the values of personal responsibility, consideration for others, and mutual respect in the face of difference and disagreement. The goal of this initiative is not to tell students "what to think" in some simplistic or doctrinaire way. Nevertheless, this is our chance to take the ethical dimension of education much more seriously than heretofore. An important task of the Initiative will be to enlist the faculty more fully in this broader work of education. Since we need to engage the whole of the student population in this process, we will also need to involve all of Duke's overlapping student groups and communities and learn how they can be parts of the solution.

Although the academic year will soon draw to a close, I believe the Initiative's work should begin this spring. We should not lose the chance for education in large and small groups supplied by this moment of heightened sensitivity. Some work can be done over the coming summer, and we are looking to pioneer a period of focused engagement on campus issues for upper class students in the fall. In honesty, some of the Initiative's work will require long-lasting attention and is unsusceptible to any quick fix. This would include promoting a more responsible approach to the culture of campus drinking, a major factor in Duke's recent crisis and the source of much bad college conduct throughout the United States. I have asked Vice Provost Thompson to report on the Initiative's progress at the end of this term and again in the fall.

5. Presidential Council In addition to these steps aimed at the lacrosse team culture and our larger student culture, I will convene a presidential council to give advice and offer guidance to me and the Board of Trustees. This group will be made up of wise figures from within the university community, from the larger Duke family, from the national higher education community, and from the city of Durham. I will ask it to receive and critique our internal policies and self-assessments regarding the promotion of these central values; to inform our on-campus efforts with the best practices in other university settings; and to consider ways that Duke and its community can work yet more closely to promote these values in a larger social setting. Emeriti Trustees Wilhelmina Reuben-Cooke, Provost and Vice President of Academic Affairs of the University of the District of Columbia, and Roy Bostock, Chairman of The Partnership for a Drug-Free America, have agreed to chair and I plan to convene the first meeting of the Council this spring.

In addition to these five steps, I look forward to continuing a dialogue with leaders in Durham and at North Carolina Central University. I'm indebted to Mayor Bill Bell for hosting a meeting on the Duke campus last week that brought together many African American leaders to discuss the incident of March 13. We concluded that meeting with the resolve to meet again; I look forward to further discussions with this group and others at the next meeting, which my colleague NCCU Chancellor James Ammons has offered to host. Durham is a proud city with a rich history and a diverse population that responds to the challenges of the day better than many other cities in this country. I'm resolved to seize the moment to do what I can to strengthen what is in many aspects, but surely not all, a positive relationship between our university and city.

Nobody wishes trouble on one's house and I regret the trouble that this incident has brought to Duke and Durham. But when trouble arrives, it's the test of a community and its leaders to deal with it honestly, act accordingly and learn from it. This is a deeply emotional time as well as a rare opportunity for education -- for our students, faculty, administrators, and members of our community. Let's move forward with a serious commitment to make progress on the many complex issues that confront us now.

Richard H. Brodhead
President
Duke University
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Would it be fair to say that CGM just happened to show up at the time that Nifong needed a boost for his flagging political aspirations? She just happened to be in the wrong place at the wrong time, to be used in every sense of the word to bolster the PC crowd who needed the black vote in Durham. Everything else was orchestrated and handled for her. They just needed a body to work through. Funny that these upper middle class judges and attorneys, who are usually considered "higher class" would become so beholden to such sleezy people.

Reminds me of an old saying back in Tenn. "If you lie down with the hogs you're gonna end up in the slime". Black slime, white slime, political slime, PC slime, media slime. All slime. The back story is greed for power and position... on both sides.

Except now the story is a three ring event: One ring is the CGM life-drama; One ring is the Nifong, Duke, Durham drama; One ring is the RCD and other Lax players and their families. The last ring is what it is really all about. Justice and truth, and setting the record straight on their behalf.
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Thanks, abb, for putting this out again. If I am wrong, set me straight, but I just read it again and I think I'm right: he is saying the attitude peaked, not that the neighbors might reasonably have thought that it peaked. I think.

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How about this pile of horseshit from 4/5/06, taking into account how they've tried to prevent discovery?

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The university is guided by the principles of openness, inclusiveness, mutual toleration, and mutual respect. Everything that furthers these causes advances our ability to work together toward the truth no individual or group can reach alone. Everything that hinders these causes retards the search for wisdom and knowledge. The university is also founded on the principle that we have an obligation to seek the truth, and that truth is established through evidence and disciplined inquiry. Reaching certainty without evidence or process is a double wrong in a university because it opens the door to injustice and violates our commitment to the truth.

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Apr 5 2011, 08:41 PM
I would enjoy seeing Judge Whichard subpoenaed. I think his conversations with Hodge clearly are germane to the suits.
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