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| Baldo | Oct 5 2011, 04:39 PM Post #376 |
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I would prefer an honest "We want to hold Power" rather than the horse sh*t" we are better off. Any fool can look around and see just how bad things are and if she can't honestly admit that then she deserves the boot. California is in a debt squeeze because it has overspent & over-promised. I don't see us coming out of it with our current political party in power nor can the Federal Govt under Obama. Their Great Plan was the Green Economy and borrow lots of money. It has Failed! Even if we had a complete changeover in Political Power we have a long decade ahead repairing what has been developing for decades. Donkeys or Rinos, they all blew our money! Edited by Baldo, Oct 5 2011, 04:41 PM.
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| kbp | Oct 5 2011, 04:58 PM Post #377 |
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That said, tax reform and spending cuts could help to highlight the difference in fiscal management of the states. Imagine less government and fewer entitlements coming from the federal funds, leaving states more prone to make or break themselves, ADD: maybe I should have said 'fiscal MISmanagement' Edited by kbp, Oct 5 2011, 05:08 PM.
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| Baldo | Oct 10 2011, 09:37 AM Post #378 |
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This paints quite a picture of a failed Presidency Aimless Obama walks alone The reports are not good, disturbing even. I have heard basically the same story four times in the last 10 days, and the people doing the talking are in New York and Washington and are spread across the political spectrum. The gist is this: President Obama has become a lone wolf, a stranger to his own government. He talks mostly, and sometimes only, to friend and adviser Valerie Jarrett and to David Axelrod, his political strategist. Everybody else, including members of his Cabinet, have little face time with him except for brief meetings that serve as photo ops. Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton and Treasury Secretary Tim Geithner both have complained, according to people who have talked to them, that they are shut out of important decisions. The president’s workdays are said to end early, often at 4 p.m. He usually has dinner in the family residence with his wife and daughters, then retreats to a private office. One person said he takes a stack of briefing books. Others aren’t sure what he does. If the reports are accurate, and I believe they are, they paint a picture of an isolated man trapped in a collapsing presidency. While there is no indication Obama is walking the halls of the White House late at night, talking to the portraits of former presidents, as Richard Nixon did during Watergate, the reports help explain his odd public remarks. Obama conceded in one television interview recently that Americans are not “better off than they were four years ago” and said in another that the nation had “gotten a little soft.” Both smacked of a man who feels discouraged and alienated and sparked comparisons to Jimmy Carter, never a good sign. Blaming the country is political heresy, of course, yet Obama is running out of scapegoats. His allies rarely make affirmative arguments on his behalf anymore, limiting themselves to making excuses for his failure. He and they attack Republicans, George W. Bush, European leaders and Chinese currency manipulation -- and that was just last week. The blame game isn’t much of a defense for Solyndra and “Fast and Furious,” the emerging twin scandals that paint a picture of incompetence at best. Obama himself is spending his public time pushing a $450 billion “jobs” bill -- really another stimulus in disguise -- that even Senate Democrats won’t support. He grimly flogged it repeatedly at his Thursday press conference, even though snowballs in hell have a better chance of survival....snipped ...Harvey Golub, former chairman of American Express, called the “jobs” bill an incoherent mess. Writing in The Wall Street Journal, he said that among other flaws, the bill includes an unheard of retroactive tax hike on the holders of municipal bonds. “Many of us have suspected that economic illiterates were setting the economic policy of this administration,” Golub wrote, adding that the bill “reveals a depth of cluelessness that boggles the mind.”...snipped http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/aimless_obama_walks_alone_OUgoMTkORRJioLl7B6ZYmN First time I ever heard of a retroactive tax on Munis. You have to be kidding me? That would raise the price of borrowing for local & state govts. Any Democratic Senator running for reelection(33) would have to be suicidal to vote for it. Edited by Baldo, Oct 10 2011, 09:37 AM.
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| Baldo | Oct 10 2011, 01:11 PM Post #379 |
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SPIN METER: Obama disconnects rhetoric, reality The Associated Press WASHINGTON — In President Barack Obama's sales pitch for his jobs bill, there are two versions of reality: The one in his speeches and the one actually unfolding in Washington. When Obama accuses Republicans of standing in the way of his nearly $450 billion plan, he ignores the fact that his own party has struggled to unite behind the proposal. When the president says Republicans haven't explained what they oppose in the plan, he skips over the fact that Republicans who control the House actually have done that in detail. And when he calls on Congress to "pass this bill now," he slides past the point that Democrats control the Senate and were never prepared to move immediately, given other priorities. Senators are expected to vote Tuesday on opening debate on the bill, a month after the president unveiled it with a call for its immediate passage. To be sure, Obama is not the only one engaging in rhetorical excesses. But he is the president, and as such, his constant remarks on the bill draw the most attention and scrutiny. The disconnect between what Obama says about his jobs bill and what stands as the political reality flow from his broader aim: to rally the public behind his cause and get Congress to act, or, if not, to pin blame on Republicans. He is waging a campaign, one in which nuance and context and competing responses don't always fit in if they don't help make the case. For example, when Obama says his jobs plan is made up of ideas that have historically had bipartisan support, he stops the point there. Not mentioned is that Republicans have never embraced the tax increases that he is proposing to cover the cost of his plan. Likewise, from city to city, Obama is demanding that Congress act (he means Republicans) while it has been clear for weeks that the GOP will not support all of his bill, to say the least. Individual elements of it may well pass, such as Obama's proposal to extend and expand a payroll tax cut. But Republicans strongly oppose the president's proposed new spending and his plan to raise taxes on millionaires to pay for the package. The fight over the legislative proposal has become something much bigger: a critical test of the president's powers of persuading the public heading into the 2012 presidential campaign, and of Republicans' ability to deny him a win and reap victory for themselves. "He knows it's not going to pass. He's betting that voters won't pick up on it, or even if they do they will blame Congress and he can run against the 'do-nothing Congress,'" said Sherry Bebitch Jeffe, a senior fellow at the University of Southern California's School of Policy, Planning and Development. John Sides, political science professor at George Washington University, said Obama's approach on the jobs bill is "more about campaigning than governing."...snipped http://www.ajc.com/news/nation-world/spin-meter-obama-disconnects-1197664.html You know you are in trouble when the The Atlanta Journal-Constitution runs an anti-Obama piece. |
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| genny6348 | Oct 10 2011, 01:25 PM Post #380 |
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Turtles have more class and character than Whatshisname. BTW: That is a beautiful Red-eared Slider Edited by genny6348, Oct 10 2011, 01:26 PM.
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| Baldo | Oct 10 2011, 02:40 PM Post #381 |
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More bad Press from the Washington Post Obama the loner .....This president endures with little joy the small talk and back-slapping of retail politics, rarely spends more than a few minutes on a rope line, refuses to coddle even his biggest donors. His relationship with Democrats on Capitol Hill is frosty, to be generous. Personal lobbying on behalf of legislation? He prefers to leave that to Vice President Biden, an old-school political charmer. Time and again in our reporting over the last few months, this strain of thinking has come up — and the deeper President Obama’s political troubles grow, the more often we hear it. In the wake of President Obama’s press conference last Thursday, there was considerable skepticism — bordering on contempt — for his assertion that now was the time for the Senate to pass his jobs bill. And, this morning the New York Times’ John Harwood wrote that Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (Nev.) views White House chief of staff Bill Daley as “ham handed” and that leading Democrats believe that “Team Obama’s zeal for secrets creates more problems than it solves.” Message. Sent. One veteran Democratic campaign operative put it more bluntly when asked to assess Obama’s approach: “He just hates politics and politicians.” At the heart of that ill will is a belief that Obama has been a fair-weather friend to congressional Democrats (and most of the party’s elected officials), using them when necessary (like now) and ignoring them the rest of the time....snipped http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-fix/post/obama-the-loner/2011/10/10/gIQAF2u8ZL_blog.html Possibly a media campaign being spread to distance the Senate Democrats from Obama. At the bottom of politics is always what's in it for me. Edited by Baldo, Oct 10 2011, 02:41 PM.
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| kbp | Oct 10 2011, 03:18 PM Post #382 |
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That may help to explain why so many are starting to hit directly on Obama. |
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| genny6348 | Oct 10 2011, 06:43 PM Post #383 |
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Just checking to see if it's time yet to begin feeling sorry for Whatshisname . . . checking . . . checking . . . NOPE! Has hell frozen over yet?
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| chatham | Oct 10 2011, 06:57 PM Post #384 |
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WHAT ARE THE DEMS SO AFRAID OF. BESIDES THEY ARE PUBLIC DOCUMENTS, NOT PRIVATE DEMOCRAT LIES. http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=353069 CERTIFIGATE Dems want door slammed on more of Obama's records Proposing new plan to keep documents secret after term Posted: October 09, 2011 5:05 pm Eastern By Bob Unruh © 2011 WND Sen. Barack Obama Barack Obama may have 15 months left in his first term, but his supporters in Congress are already preparing for the day he’ll be an ex-president by introducing legislation that will allow him to keep his personal and presidential documents secret. According to Judicial Watch, the Washington-based government corruption fighting organization, the proposal by Rep. Edolphus Towns of New York's 10th District is "an obvious effort to protect President Barack Obama." Jerome Corsi’s new book, "Where’s the Birth Certificate?", is now available for immediate shipping, autographed by the author, only from the WND Superstore "Ironically, Obama revoked a similar George W. Bush order in one of his first official acts as president. In 2001, Bush penned an executive order severely limiting public access to his presidential records. Shortly after swearing in, Obama killed it as part of his much-ballyhooed commitment to government transparency. At the time, the new president claimed that he was giving the American people greater access to 'historic documents,'" Judicial Watch said. "If the Democrats' proposed measure (Presidential Records Act Amendments) becomes law, former presidents will be allowed to assert a new 'constitutionally based privilege' against disclosing records of their liking. Here is how it would work; the archivist of the United States would be required to notify the former president, as well as the incumbent, of intentions to make records public. Anything that either the former or current president claims should be kept private won't be released," the organization explained. (Story continues below) The bill, "H.R.3071 – Presidential Records Act Amendments of 2011 (Introduced in House - IH)," was introduced on Sept. 29 and just this week was referred to a House subcommittee. It has 16 cosponsors. It states it is "To amend chapter 22 of title 44, United States Code, popularly known as the Presidential Records Act, to establish procedures for the consideration of claims of constitutionally based privilege against disclosure of presidential records." It provides for the release of records "except any record (or reasonably segregable part of a record) with respect to which the archivist receives from a former president or the incumbent president notification of a claim of constitutionally based privilege against disclosure." Only "the incumbent president" or a "final court order that is not subject to appeal" would be able to overturn the decision. Obama is no stranger to secrecy. In fact, the entire issue over his eligibility to occupy the Oval Office that has raged over the last several years, including dozens of lawsuits, petitions and campaigns, all could have been moot had he been open with his historical documents during his campaign. But his documents that even today remain concealed include his passport records, kindergarten records, Punahou school records, Occidental College records, Columbia University records, Columbia thesis, Harvard law School records, Harvard Law Review articles, University of Chicago articles, Illinois State Bar Association records, Illinois State Senate records and schedules, medical records, Obama/Dunham marriage license, Obama/Dunham divorce documents. Soetoro/Dunham marriage license and adoption records. And, of course, his original birth documentation, which purportedly was released in April. His campaign released a computer image of a "Certification of Live Birth" during his 2008 and claimed it was the only document available. At the time, polls revealed that roughly half of Americans even had heard of the dispute over his eligibility. But earlier this year, with polls showing major numbers of Americans across all parts of the political spectrum simply refusing to believe Obama, and the approaching release of Jerome Corsi's new book, "Where’s the Birth Certificate?", Obama dispatched an attorney to Hawaii. The result was the release of another image, this time of a "Certificate of Live Birth," a document that for nearly three years Obama had maintained was impossible to obtain from the state of Hawaii. However, since then, dozens of experts have concluded the image is a forgery, and the printed copy may even have resulted from a computer imaging process. At its release, WND contacted the Hawaii Health Department and the office of Gov. Neil Abercrombie, an ardent Obama supporter, to request confirmation that the image released was an accurate representation of the state's file information. Officials refused to respond. The original to date remains concealed. A poll taken two months after the release of Obama's "document" showed half of Americans would like to see Congress investigate Obama's eligibility for the presidency and nearly that many believe the definition of the constitutional term "natural born citizen" means both parents must be U.S. citizens, according to a new scientific poll. The document released by Obama displayed Barack Obama Sr. as the father, which under some interpretations of the Constitution would disqualify Obama out of hand, since his father was not a citizen of the United States when he was born. The Constitution requires presidents to be a "natural born Citizen," which is undefined in the Constitution but is considered by many to be the offspring of two citizen parents on the soil of the country. "There's no marginalizing those who want this matter investigated by Congress," said Fritz Wenzel of Wenzel Strategies, who conducted the WND/Wenzel Poll telephone survey June 16-19. It has a margin of error of plus or minus 3.85 points. "Even among Democrats, more than one in four – 28 percent – said they now want an inquiry, as do 43 percent of independents and 77 percent of Republicans. Interestingly, men are much more skeptical than are women about the question of eligibility – only 42 percent of men said they think Obama proved his eligibility by releasing the electronic birth certificate, compared to 59 percent of women." The poll indicated 43.5 percent of Americans believe that a Hawaii birth would make no difference in Obama's eligibility, as the Constitution requires both parents of a U.S. president to have been U.S. citizens – and Obama's father was not a citizen. The figure included 56.9 percent of the GOP, 40.2 percent of independents and 32.9 percent of Democrats. Judicial Watch noted that the newest plan to keep Obama records secret noted that Towns "has yet to explain why it's necessary. What's certain is that Obama has failed miserably to keep his promise of running the most transparent administration in history." Interestingly, a search of Towns' congressional website today revealed no reference to his proposal. The only record that was uncovered searching for references to presidential records was a January 2009 announcement that he was trying to overturn Bush's executive order "and restore procedures to ensure the timely release of presidential records." "President-elect Obama and House Democrats agree on the need to increase transparency in the federal government, and these reforms will provide a new level of openness for the incoming Administration," Towns said at the time. "President Bush's executive order created an imbalanced and restrictive process. The Presidential Records Act preserves the important intent of the original post-Watergate law, which was to assure timely accessibility and preservation of official White House records for historical and, if necessary, legal purposes," he said then. "And, with the Presidential Library Donation Act, we will do away with anonymous donations by foreign countries and nationals, and make certain that the process is transparent to the public." Read more: Dems want door slammed on more of Obama's records http://www.wnd.com/?pageId=353069#ixzz1aQUfK2La |
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| Deleted User | Oct 10 2011, 07:30 PM Post #385 |
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Hey... no 'papers", no big library in his honor. Not a bad thing, eh? After all, has he written any thing, really? |
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| Joan Foster | Oct 11 2011, 01:54 PM Post #386 |
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http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/279595/wheres-evidence-obamas-policy-genius-jonah-goldberg "Where’s the proof that Obama is a master of public policy? To be sure there’s ample proof that he’s a master at talking about public policy, describing the problems, summarizing the current thinking, regurgitating all of the reigning clichés and platitudes. But where’s the evidence that he’s actually good at public policy? It’s a sincere question: What have been the truly innovative, groundbreaking or even unconventional big public policy ideas to come out of this administration? Are there any? Because from where I sit, it simply looks like Obama takes existing, conventional, liberal ideas – some of them very, very old – off the liberal pantry shelf and hawks them like it’s new inventory. Where’s the evidence that Obama’s “mastery” over public policy has translated itself into creative approaches? Not in the stimulus from what I can tell. Maybe there’s something impressive to tout in ObamaCare, but Obama didn’t actually have much to do with the crafting of ObamaCare – a fact Wilson acknowledges. Was his genius to be found in shoveling cash into Solyndra and other embarrassing white elephants? Was he the guiding intellect behind a green jobs program that has produced dozens of jobs in places where it was supposed to create thousands? And if he’s such a genius about public policy, why did it take him so long to discover that there’s no such thing as “shovel ready jobs”? You don’t have to be a Jedi Master of public policy to have known that. Heck, if he’s spent so much time focusing on getting the policies right, why are things so bad? Why are they so much worse than he predicted? Why did it take him so long figuring out reality was sharply veering from his assumptions?" |
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| Baldo | Oct 11 2011, 02:03 PM Post #387 |
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President Goldbrick is more like it! Obama finishes work at 4pm... but he could be saying bye for good as only 41% want him to have a second term It seems like it would be one of the hardest jobs in the country right now, especially as a poll published today reveals that only 41 per cent of people want him to have a second term. But President Obama often finishes his working day at 4pm, it has been reported. Sources claim that Mr Obama regularly strolls out of the Oval Office way before the afternoon has ended. He returns to the residence where he has dinner with his wife and daughters, reported the New York Post....snipped http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2047627/Obama-finishes-work-4pm--41-want-second-term.html I don't know if this is true, but I suspect it is. Reports are he doesn't get to work early either. I suspect he greatest skill is goldbricking by spending other people's money. It's Great to Be the King & Queen! Just inventory the White House china on Jan 19th 2013. |
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| Mason | Oct 11 2011, 02:23 PM Post #388 |
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. This is outrageous. We don't need no stinkin' new legislation. The last thing we need is less openness and less accountability in Washington. This proposal is un-American. It also promotes the idea that Barack Owebama deserves some kind special protections and treatment. Presidents SERVE - and there are reasons we don't have Kings and Queens that rule us in the country. . |
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| Mason | Oct 11 2011, 02:28 PM Post #389 |
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. Baldo, He honed that work ethic as a community organizer. Have Jesse and Al ever worked a day in their lives? He probably figures if there's no money to spend, there's nothing for him to do. . |
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| foxglove | Oct 11 2011, 02:48 PM Post #390 |
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I think Obama knows what he's doing isn't working. I'm reminded of the description of Willy Loman in "Death of a Salesman": a man "way out in the blue, riding on a smile and a shoeshine." People aren't buying what he has to sell. |
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