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retiredLEO
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During that interview the author sounded to me like an excuse maker for the ONE. Perhaps he is seeking a job in the administration. I for one wouldn't waste my time reading his book.
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kbp

Obama reminds me of the new student in a class in which ALL the other students want to get close to because that new student seems to be 'cool'

...the same new student nobody wants to sit by at lunch after they find out he's not so 'cool' afterall

...but in this case they're blaming the entire class one way or another for how the new student failed to fit in

...and we're seeing he should be demoted a few grades if he ever hopes to fit in with any class (not sure he can ever have any 'class' himself!)
Edited by kbp, Sep 22 2011, 09:18 AM.
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Well, it looks like Summer of Recovery Second Attempt is a no show!

"Brilliant" Obama is a epic flop.

Whomever we elect as our next President must have real time actually running a State with proven results. We can't stand another flop. He/She must be able to inspire, but they have to be competent as an executive
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http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/09/22/republicans-mock-obama-trip-to-ohio-bridge-years-from-being-shovel-ready/
Republicans Criticize Obama Trip to Ohio Bridge Years From Being 'Shovel-Ready'
Published September 22, 2011

Republicans criticized President Obama ahead of his visit Thursday to a bridge in Cincinnati, saying the project he's using as a backdrop to the public push for a new jobs bill is going forward with or without the stimulus package.

GOP lawmakers also noted the project is at least four years from being shovel-ready and questioned why the president was holding his event on the Ohio side since the bridge is owned by Kentucky.

"But I respect his decision in a presidential year to do it on the Cincinnati side of the river considering the Ohio electoral votes," Rep. Geoff Davis, R-Ky., quipped.

Davis and other Republicans acknowledged the importance of the bridge for people traveling between Ohio and Covington, Ky. But they said the stimulus bill won't necessarily help the project along in the near-term.

"The Brent Spence Bridge is technically not a shovel-ready project," Davis told Fox News.

The Republican National Committee pointed to reporting from FOX 19 in Cincinnati noting that even if the federal government contributes $1.9 billion, another $500 million from state and local authorities would still be needed. The project so far has only $90 million to its name.

With full funding, requirements like environmental studies would still push ground-breaking off for another four years.

snip...
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Krauthammer is spot on. Obama is back to his Community Organizer roots

Return of the real Obama

by Charles Krauthammer, Published: September 22

In a 2008 debate, Charlie Gibson asked Barack Obama about his support for raising capital gains taxes, given the historical record of government losing net revenue as a result. Obama persevered: “Well, Charlie, what I’ve said is that I would look at raising the capital gains tax for purposes of fairness.”

A most revealing window into our president’s political core: To impose a tax that actually impoverishes our communal bank account (the U.S. Treasury) is ridiculous. It is nothing but punitive. It benefits no one — not the rich, not the poor, not the government. For Obama, however, it brings fairness, which is priceless.

Now that he’s president, Obama has actually gone and done it. He’s just proposed a $1.5 trillion tsunami of tax hikes featuring a “Buffett rule” that, although as yet deliberately still fuzzy, clearly includes raising capital gains taxes.

He also insists again upon raising marginal rates on “millionaire” couples making $250,000 or more. But roughly half the income of small businesses (i.e., those filing individual returns) would be hit by this tax increase. Therefore, if we are to believe Obama’s own logic that his proposed business tax credits would increase hiring, then surely this tax hike will reduce small-business hiring.

But what are jobs when fairness is at stake? Fairness trumps growth. Fairness trumps revenue. Fairness trumps economic logic.

Obama himself has said that “you don’t raise taxes in a recession.” Why then would he risk economic damage when facing reelection? Because these proposals have no chance of being enacted, many of them having been rejected by the Democratic-controlled Congress of Obama’s first two years in office. ...snipped

http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/return-of-the-real-obama/2011/09/22/gIQAf7dsoK_story.html


IMHO Obama is back to his Community Organizer roots. Once a Marxist always a Marxist
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I just saw this on Youtube. Obama a Saudi plant?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Jhx_2TqffE
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kbp

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Sep 23 2011, 10:54 AM
Krauthammer is spot on. Obama is back to his Community Organizer roots

Return of the real Obama

by Charles Krauthammer, Published: September 22

In a 2008 debate, Charlie Gibson asked Barack Obama about his support for raising capital gains taxes, given the historical record of government losing net revenue as a result. Obama persevered: “Well, Charlie, what I’ve said is that I would look at raising the capital gains tax for purposes of fairness.”

A most revealing window into our president’s political core: To impose a tax that actually impoverishes our communal bank account (the U.S. Treasury) is ridiculous. It is nothing but punitive. It benefits no one — not the rich, not the poor, not the government. For Obama, however, it brings fairness, which is priceless.

Now that he’s president, Obama has actually gone and done it. He’s just proposed a $1.5 trillion tsunami of tax hikes featuring a “Buffett rule” that, although as yet deliberately still fuzzy, clearly includes raising capital gains taxes.

He also insists again upon raising marginal rates on “millionaire” couples making $250,000 or more. But roughly half the income of small businesses (i.e., those filing individual returns) would be hit by this tax increase. Therefore, if we are to believe Obama’s own logic that his proposed business tax credits would increase hiring, then surely this tax hike will reduce small-business hiring.

But what are jobs when fairness is at stake? Fairness trumps growth. Fairness trumps revenue. Fairness trumps economic logic.

Obama himself has said that “you don’t raise taxes in a recession.” Why then would he risk economic damage when facing reelection? Because these proposals have no chance of being enacted, many of them having been rejected by the Democratic-controlled Congress of Obama’s first two years in office. ...snipped

http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/return-of-the-real-obama/2011/09/22/gIQAf7dsoK_story.html


IMHO Obama is back to his Community Organizer roots. Once a Marxist always a Marxist
The capital gains tax is a major mess as it's presently set up.
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Joan Foster

"We’re the country that built the Intercontinental Railroad," Barack Obama.

That's what the president of the United States flat-out said Thursday during what was supposed to be a photo op to sell his jobs plan next to an allegedly deteriorating highway bridge.

A railroad between continents? A railroad from, say, New York City all the way across the Atlantic to France? Now, THAT would be a bridge!

It's yet another humorous gaffe by the Harvard graduate, overlooked by most media for whatever reason. Like Obama saying Abraham-Come-Lately Lincoln was the founder of the Republican Party. Or Navy corpseman. Or the Austrian language. Fifty-seven states. The president of Canada. Etc.

If you talk as much as this guy likes to talk instead of governing, if you believe you are a Real Good Talker as much as this guy does, you're gonna blow a few lines. But this many?

No doubt, we'll see a collection of Obama's Best Bombs on 'Saturday Night Live' this weekend, one right after the other. No doubt.



The Democrat had traveled to Ohio on Thursday to tout his American Jobs Act, the....
...$447-billion boondoggle he proposed to a joint session of Congress this month because his previous $787-billion boondoggle didn't create anywhere near as many jobs as Joe Biden had promised.

This president is in a jam. The economy sucks. Unemployment sucks. His job approval sucks and his economic approval sucks worse. Independents have abandoned the flailing White House occupant, so are some Jews, liberals and even blacks. His Hollywood bundlers had trouble selling out the POTUS fundraisers in L.A. next week.

Obama's own Democratic Party controls the Senate and won't put their leader's jobs bill on the schedule because more wild spending like this doomed bill could also doom some Dem senators next year.

So here's how the ex-state senator from the Chicago machine reacts: At an operating cost of $181,000 per hour, he flies Air Force One nearly four hours roundtrip for 17 minutes of remarks touting infrastructure repairs by a bridge that doesn't need them.

The real reason he's at the Brent Spence Bridge is because it links the home states of both congressional Republican leaders, John Boehner and Mitch McConnell. So Obama can cutely blame Republicans for holding up his jobs bill, even though it's Nevada Democrat Harry Reid.

Obama turns the empty rhetoric into a pep rally for himself, leading the obedient audience to chant, "Pass this bill! Pass this bill!"

This guy, who will ride around in Secret Service SUVs for the rest of his life, has this thing for railroads that other people should ride in. So, according to the White House transcript (scroll down for full version and related stories), here's what passes for Obama leadership:

Now, we used to have the best infrastructure in the world here in America. We’re the country that built the Intercontinental Railroad, the Interstate Highway System. We built the Hoover Dam. We built the Grand Central Station.

So how can we now sit back and let China build the best railroads? And let Europe build the best highways? And have Singapore build a nicer airport?

Quick question: Has anyone ever heard any American express jealousy over Singapore's sweet airport?"


http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/washington/2011/09/obama-gaffe-jobs-act-speech-brent-spence-bridge-ohio.html
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kbp

from Joan's post
 
...Obama's own Democratic Party controls the Senate and won't put their leader's jobs bill on the schedule because more wild spending like this doomed bill could also doom some Dem senators next year



The Dem Senators are between a rock and a hard spot with much Obama has going on in his efforts to be re-elected. This effort to present the jobs bill ONLY so that it will fail and open the door for Obama to whine about Congress is full of spending problems that attaches to any Dem's that even appear to be behind it ...and the public was aware of it before Obama finally presented a somewhat complete outline of the bill ...and then Obama is stuck playing to both sides of the fence in how he's telling us to pay for ...as if the bill and payment for it are two entirely different topics.

Son of Stimulus = spending, read where it may go after it's passed!
Paying for it = tax an 'enemy' (wealthy) & cuts from the golden programs
Combination = fool both sides with a plan to fail

A topic that I am very surprised of not reading more on in the MSM is what they keep calling the "payroll tax cuts". Somebody needs to point out WHERE those payroll tax cuts are coming from and HOW the cuts compound into a larger problem over time for the sacred SS system.
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cfochina
Sep 23 2011, 04:23 PM
I just saw this on Youtube. Obama a Saudi plant?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Jhx_2TqffE
I don't think being a Muslim isn't all that bad, but actively seeking to bring down the economy of the United States and dividing us apart does concern me. I don't think Owebama is stupid, I think he knows exactly what he is doing.

Another link to an interview with Ari.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?src_vid=0Jhx_2TqffE&annotation_id=annotation_681636&v=zSAW4YTZAwY&feature=iv
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Leo. You are brilliant and I learn from you all the time... But...May I suggest you read up a bit about Islam? I can't figure how it can mix in a free society. When one side wants world domination, and the other side wants freedom for individuals and countries, how do you reconcile that? One side has to win. That is the basic premise of Islam. I don't know if you have a wife or daughters, but you might ask how they would like to be subjec to Sharia law.

My husband insisted, during the election, that BHO was Muslim. I thought my husband's head had been invaded by a bunch of right wing extremists ( in an other wise intelligent man). Time has proven my husband right about much that I simply did not want to face or admit. He was looking at evidence. I was just hoping it would go away.
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Sep 24 2011, 01:06 PM
Leo. You are brilliant and I learn from you all the time... But...May I suggest you read up a bit about Islam? I can't figure how it can mix in a free society. When one side wants world domination, and the other side wants freedom for individuals and countries, how do you reconcile that? One side has to win. That is the basic premise of Islam. I don't know if you have a wife or daughters, but you might ask how they would like to be subjec to Sharia law.

My husband insisted, during the election, that BHO was Muslim. I thought my husband's head had been invaded by a bunch of right wing extremists ( in an other wise intelligent man). Time has proven my husband right about much that I simply did not want to face or admit. He was looking at evidence. I was just hoping it would go away.
The same claim, in a way, can be made about the Catholic Church - after all, its goal is that all should be members and that those who are not need to be shown the way of light and truth. The Church, if it had its way, would reset the clock to that time when it was the Church universal. In that sense, (radical Islamic fundamentalism aside) Islam is not a whit different in its goals than the Catholic Church. In the messages that Gabriel gave to Mohammad, when he was out in the desert after his marriage to Khadija gave him the money and time to go out and contemplate, Gabriel siad that God had already delivered warnings to his people from Moses and from Jesus - Mohammad would be the last prophet that he would send to tell his people to wise up and live a good life according to God's message. Islam was a religion of the sword in the same way that Christianity was......a muscular religion, so to speak.

The older I get, the more of a deist I become....that there is a God who created all, I believe, cannot be doubted. WHere I run into problesm is with those who claim that they have a corner on what God thinks and wants to the exclusion of all others.
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Sep 24 2011, 01:06 PM
Leo. You are brilliant and I learn from you all the time... But...May I suggest you read up a bit about Islam? I can't figure how it can mix in a free society. When one side wants world domination, and the other side wants freedom for individuals and countries, how do you reconcile that? One side has to win. That is the basic premise of Islam. I don't know if you have a wife or daughters, but you might ask how they would like to be subjec to Sharia law.

My husband insisted, during the election, that BHO was Muslim. I thought my husband's head had been invaded by a bunch of right wing extremists ( in an other wise intelligent man). Time has proven my husband right about much that I simply did not want to face or admit. He was looking at evidence. I was just hoping it would go away.
DSL, I tend to agree with your husband, I have always felt Obama was a Muslim masquarding around as a christian. I also know through the books I read and from what some of the radical Iman's say, they want everyone to convert to Islam, pracitice Shraria Law or die.
The difference is that when Obama took office he took an oath to the US Constitution, which he is attempting to subvert at every level, that is what causes the most concern in me. Right now, Obama will not reveal his real plans for America, but I am sure if he is re-elected, we will see what he has in store for our country, and it won't be pretty. Right now Obama is building alliances in the Middle East, with people that hate us and Isreal and turning away from our historical allies.
So if you don't think I understand Shria Law, well I know it well. I do have a wife and daughter and they seem to care less about Shria Law, as do a lot of women in this country. That is even more so for our elected officials, who are more then willing to give in to the Muslims in this country, in the name of diversity. CKS say it well about the Catholic Church, that is what missionaries were all about spreading Catholotism around the world. The only difference you can leave the Catholic Church and not fear for your life. The worst thing the Catholic church can do is excommunicate you.
So yes DSL, I do understand the Muslim goals and they are not for me and I agree with your husband, one of the few people that are willing to say that.
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LEO-

There was a time and in many parts of the world where one left the RC CHurch at one's peril......when the Church was universal, disagreement with the Church, running afoul of its laws, resulted in one's death. Granted, that is not the case at the present but it was not that long ago when it was.
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Sep 24 2011, 02:15 PM
LEO-

There was a time and in many parts of the world where one left the RC CHurch at one's peril......when the Church was universal, disagreement with the Church, running afoul of its laws, resulted in one's death. Granted, that is not the case at the present but it was not that long ago when it was.
CKS, I don't believe that it ever happened in this country, with the Catholic Church, correct me if I am wrong. Most of the Muslims live in the 7th century and want to keep it that way, I don't think the Catholic Church thinks that way anymore. I believe that most of the first people to come to the "new world" came here for religious freedoms and to escape oppressive governments, like the King. I agree with that and intend to keep it that way in any way possible.
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