| The Wonderful World of Nicole Kubon; K C Johnson | |
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| Quasimodo | Feb 3 2011, 08:40 PM Post #1 |
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| sceptical | Feb 3 2011, 09:47 PM Post #2 |
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An exchange on the comment thread of this untruthful article by frustrated feminist Nicole Cubon: From Patricia Dowd, mother of former Duke lacrosse player Kyle Dowd:
Reply from Nicole Kubon:
There is also a comment by our own Blog Hooligan R.B. Parrish: http://www.decadentdepravity.com/?p=294 |
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| MikeZPU | Feb 4 2011, 01:14 AM Post #3 |
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Here's an email that I just sent to Ms. Kubon: Ms. Kubon, This is with regards to the Duke Lacrosse Case. I am not sure that the scientific facts of the case are well known. I will try and keep this as short as possible. The information that I provide below are scientific facts that no one disputes. A rape kit was assembled just hours after the party. In addition to vaginal swabs, the SANE nurse took rectal swabs and buccal swabs (inside the cheeks.) The rape kit also included the accuser's underwear and a pubic hair comb that the SANE nurse used to comb the pubic hair region on the accuser (standard procedure.) These items in the rape kit were first examined by forensic scientists at the North Carolina State Bureau of Investigation (SBI.) The forensic scientists could not locate the presence of semen, not even trace amounts, on any item in the rape kit. They also could NOT find any blood, any foreign pubic hairs, or any foreign saliva on any item in the rape kit. Next, the items in the rape kit were transferred to a company called DNASI that had the technology to conduct highly sensitive DNA testing that could detect even the presence of a single male cell. The technology is called Y-STR or Y-plex DNA testing. This is MUCH more than just detecting semen: this technology can detect the presence of even just a single cell of male DNA. All of the Lacrosse players (except for the one African American player) had to submit DNA samples. Okay, so here was the result: not even a single cell from any Lacrosse player was found on any of the aforementioned rape kit items. Let me say that again: not even a single cell from any Lacrosse player was found on any item in the rape kit. HOWEVER, a number of male cells from multiple (different) males were detected that did not match any of the Lacrosse players. What is the significance of that? Even if it were scientifically possible to wipe away all microscopic traces of a gang-rape by multiple males -- which it is not -- how did the Lacrosse players do that AND yet leave the microscopic traces of the other males still on her person? Not even the most advanced forensic scientists in the world could do that, let alone the inordinately drunk athletes that you refer to. The scientific evidentiary proof that no Lacrosse player sexually assaulted Crystal Gayle Mangum is overwhelming and absolutely conclusive. That piece that you posted at your blog site is helpful to the pending Civil Suits. It will eventually be forwarded to the presiding judge, Judge Beaty, as further evidence of the continuing damage that was done to the reputations of the three falsely accused players. Edited by MikeZPU, Feb 4 2011, 01:29 PM.
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| darby | Feb 4 2011, 03:19 AM Post #4 |
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Capitulated.... she has.
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| Rullie | Feb 4 2011, 08:04 AM Post #5 |
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Someone archive a screen shot of Kubon's garbage article, as it may vanish when she figures out who Patricia Dowd is. This snooty make-it up-as-she goes activist needs to squirm under the fear of a lawsuit. |
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| foxglove | Feb 4 2011, 08:23 AM Post #6 |
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She sets herself up as a "modern day feminist" and has a blog entitiled Decadent Depravity? What really is she pushing? |
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| abb | Feb 4 2011, 08:25 AM Post #7 |
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http://www.decadentdepravity.com/?p=294 Super Bowl Madness: Athletes & Assault Posted by Nicole Kubon | January 31st, 2011 Filed in Uncategorized 6 Comments » Could this logo be more phallic?? More than a handful of this year’s Super Bowl competitors have been accused of sexual assault and its finally starting to make headlines. Do a quick web search and you’ll find hundreds of articles on Ben Roethlisberger’s numerous sexual assault accusations, the seven(!) Green Bay Packers players accused of assault last summer or any number of other Super Bowl alumni who have been either accused, convicted or acquitted(?) of sexual assault or domestic violence charges over the years. To offer just a sampling: Lawrence Taylor (sexual assault of a 16-year-old, 2010), David Meggett (two sexual assaults, 2009), Eric Green (sexual assault, transgender woman, 2009), Michael Irvin (sexual assault, 2007), and Mark Sanchez (sexual assault, 2006). Now you must all be pretty disgusted at this point (unless you’re preparing your “they were innocent…somehow” argument, to which I say, “nonsense, I will argue this point with you if you write to me, but until I devote an article to it, don’t get me off on a tangent here). This is a completely normal reaction to most rational people, outrage or distress, but SOMEHOW professional athletes get a pass on these discretions when it comes to public worship. Open to your Sports Section or generic sports book. Turn on your TV, radio, or computer and search the top news; you will always find professional sports coverage. We LIVE sports in America. Men loving sports is looked at as a god-given right. No woman shall impede thy man’s viewing of other men being athletic. Its an expectation. If your boyfriend watches sports, you have to deal with it. If someone’s talking about sports at work, you have to pretend to care. It sometimes feels like an American obligation (which I am failing miserably to follow). While many men in my life are supportive, impressed and interested in my feminist opinions and attitudes, they often times challenge me when sexual assault and [insert famous athlete] comes up in conversation. The tone of the conversation will transition from an open sharing of ideas and opinions to a frantic defense for what you believe in. It is important to realize that these beliefs are mostly not internal. While the American family‘s love for sports may have been internalized, institutionalized and embedded in our ways of life since the day we were born, the defense of a given athlete’s character comes from the defenses we’ve heard from ESPN-public. How could we continue to love people we knew were rapists? We couldn’t, so we desperately cling to the things we’ve been told, the reasons why he’s innocent, and why she’s guilty/lying, to support what we’ve loved since before we were born. David Meggett Mug Shot: Hot Football Player This is where the problem begins, or should I say is perpetuated in what many of us in the sexual violence world call a “rape culture.” Rape culture is defined as a culture in which rape and other sexual violence (usually against women) are common and in which prevalent attitudes, norms, practices, and media condone, normalize, excuse, or encourage sexualized violence. It is a common reaction to feel defensive of the accusation that you might live in or even contribute to a culture of violence, but hear me out… The fact that sports has become such an American tradition, from playing, to watching, to talking about it, has shaped the way that we view its importance and has led us to admire and respect the athletes playing these sports as accomplished, disciplined and popular(the hot jock stereotype hasn’t been around for long or anything…but I digress) young Americans. Young men we can be proud of, who embody the hard-working, successful model of accomplishment we should all strive for, right? And when we hear stories of these “talented” young men involved in illegal (or immoral) activity or behavior, they are usually quickly followed by a media (publicist’s) defense of the beloved athlete, complete with a thorough dicrediting of the victim(s). Since we know these young men, we watch them on TV, working hard, being…good at sports, we hear their defense and we believe them. We already wanted to believe them. And isn’t it so much easier to think that some gold-digging slut can 12-year-olds be sluts?) wanted all his glorious money than to consider that we might idolize total pieces of garbage? The REAL inconvenient truth is that of sexual violence in endless aspects of our culture, but look at me, further digressing… From TV to Video Games: Play as your favorite rapist! The long-term effects take hold when the media has successfully established that one young woman, then all young women who accuse athletes of sexual assault are lying (and/or often extorting). This slowly becomes the automatic reaction to a report of sexual assault by athlete and then, alarmingly, it begins to become the reaction to most reports of sexual assault, by anyone. And the even more devastating result of this defense of athletes who assault is the normalization of the attitude or idea that women lie about sexual assault, ALOT apparently. It is not often pointed out that while the majority of women who accuse athletes of sexual assault are then accused of lying, the Department of Justice statistics on the false reporting of crimes rates the false reporting of sexual assaults to be 3%, the same as most other crimes, while being the most under-reported crime reported. When we start to believe athletes just because we look up to them for being athletes, we give these and all athletes reinforcement that they are not responsible for their actions because they are popular and good at sports and instead of expecting our idols to meet a standard we have set for them, we are telling them to do whatever they want because what they believe about themselves is true and they make the rules. This becomes further reinforcement to young men in our country that what other people want and how other people feel is secondary to what they want and what they feel. It sends a message that men reign supreme and that athletes are the male supreme. Watch the athlete take what he wants. See him take on opposition, blame opposition and come out…..in the Super Bowl. If these guys are hot, successful, and worthy of envy, it would only make sense for young men to aspire to be like them. Somehow Bryant's accusation gave him "street cred" and gave him badass appeal Football is not the only culprit, of course, who could forget Kobe Bryant or any of the other basketball, wrestling, golf or baseball players with similarly publicized cases. The sports world is saturated in a dangerous level of entitlement, testosterone, anger, competitiveness and actual, physical strength. Yikes! While I am by no means saying that playing sports is bad (I’ve played sports, I’ve loved them; the teamwork, practice and dedication athletics take can be very rewarding), the culture that’s been bred within the athletic world sets up a situation within which sexual and physical violence are promoted, rejected and then erased. While I’ve never been in a men’s locker room and have only been privy to the many movie depictions, documentary stories, and sports news locker interviews, I don’t think anyone would argue that there is alot of testosterone and ego going around. How could there not be? When everyone is telling you how wonderful you are because of your strength, athletic ability and general masculinity, you inevitably begin connecting your worth to these characteristics. So you have pride in your strength and your ability to get what you want. Pride in who you are and what you have accomplished is good, until it is questioned, and the only way to prove your strength, popularity and accomplishment is to convince or force the questioning party to acquiesce. And so when a woman says no, that she doesn’t want your masculine body, you show her just how wrong she is. This might just be a case of a severe indiscretion which the young athlete is ashamed of and plans to never do again, until our sports-crazed culture starts in with the excuses, and even worse, the emphatic belief of such excuses, and the athlete realizes that what he did isn’t so bad, in fact, people don’t seem to care. I mean if Nike still loves me as a rapist, everyone else will too. And so it goes, again and again, a perpetual cycle of violence that only we can stop. A Plan of Action: Believe survivors when they come forward about being raped!!! Seriously people, if you can’t even begin to imagine how terrible it would be to get raped, try imagining how you’d feel if you told someone, anyone, everyone what happened to you and they laughed in your face, said you were a liar and when a few steps further to find out how many people you’d consented to having sex with, tell everyone and conclude that you are a slut, incapable of NOT wanting to have sex with someone. Stop giving athletes (or any other famous, public figures) a free pass. If you don’t want to live in a rape culture, don’t contribute to it. Hold people responsible for their actions, no matter how much you love or respect them. We should set the standard for our idols, our idols shouldn’t tell us who or how to be. If someone you admire does something not-so-admirable, call attention to it and scrutinize it more than you usually would. What’s worse…realizing your idol isn’t who you expected him to be or realizing that you’ve idolized and defended a rapist because you refused to believe he was fallible? Keep things in perspective. Athleticism and team work are great things to understand, experience and even live by but when teaching children an appreciation for athleticism gets confused with an obsession for specific players or teams who then become focuses of ritualized worship (have you ever attended an actual Super Bowl party?), it is easy for people (especially young people) to lose sight that talented people are capable of doing, and have done, terrible things. If you like the Duke Lacrosse Team because they are really good at running around, throwing balls to each other in little nets, and getting high after games, it might be hard to hear that they all got inordinately drunk and sexually assaulted a stripper they hired for their drunkfest. It would probably be alot easier to agree that strippers are strippers and, well, oh yeah, she lied but take a minute and THINK ABOUT WHAT MATTERS MORE: RAPE OR SPORTS. Don’t watch the Super Bowl! Gasp. I know. Notice however that I did not say to stop watching sports. I know that might, quite possibly, be impossible. And not all athletes are rapists. But there are more than a couple rapists playing in this Sunday’s Super Bowl and we can, in fact, pass on ONE Super Bowl to make a point that rapist’s are not heroes in our country. It will not kill us to put our foot down and refuse to cheer for men who have raped women and a network and advertisers who don’t even consider it an issue worth addressing. Have a pro-women, anti-Super Bowl party this year! A friend of mine decided to host one in protest of the perpetrators playing, and the idea has never left my head! Instead of the Super Bowl you could watch a few movies on women athletes like A League of Their Own, Bend It Like Beckham, Girl Fight, Love & Basketball, or do something completely unrelated, because its really just any other Sunday, isn’t it? 6 Responses to “ Super Bowl Madness: Athletes & Assault ” 1. Patricia Dowd says: February 2, 2011 at 6:00 pm In my haste to reply, if did not proofread the above reply and notice that a word is missing and the wrong use of a word. Below is the corrected reply. 1. Patricia Dowd says: Your comment is awaiting moderation. February 2, 2011 at 5:29 pm A little inconvenient truth, this statement is defamation!”If you like the Duke Lacrosse Team because they are really good at running around, throwing balls to each other in little nets, and getting high after games, it might be hard to hear that they all got inordinately drunk and sexually assaulted a stripper they hired for their drunkfest.” Most importantly if you bothered to look at the facts and study the evidence, you would know that NO SEXUAL ASSAULT took place. Furthermore, maybe some members of the team get high and maybe some members got inordinately drunk, but not all. You stereotype and profile a group without any facts to support your assertions. I respectfully request you retract the statement that a sexual assault took place. Just because a woman says she was assaulted doesn’t make it the truth. The truth is what you should be concerned about, so those who are really sexually assaulted get justice without the doubts that reverberate because of false claims. You have no idea the pain you and others like you continue to inflict on family members of the lacrosse team because you are either too lazy to look up the facts and study the evidence or the evidence just doesn’t fit your agenda, so you ignore it. I hope that you never have to endure the pain and anguish that the families of the lacrosse team suffered, watching a loved one; your son, father, brother or husband; be falsely accused and raked over the coals in the media. It is sad that almost five years later, individuals like yourself, in your selfish efforts to promote your agenda, refuse to look at that facts! Again, I respectfully request you retract the statement on the Duke Lacrosse team. Reply * Nicole Kubon says: February 2, 2011 at 6:31 pm I have read your comment and understand your passionate defense of the Duke Lacrosse Team. I must however, respectfully decline your request for a retraction that members of the Duke Lacrosse Team sexually assaulted a woman. I followed the Duke case closely and have indeed looked at the “facts” and studied the evidence and personally feel that an assault did take place. As this is a blog expressing my personal opinion, I do not feel that I defamed anyone. My mention of the Duke Lacrosse team was for example’s sake and was not even a focus of my article. I believe passionately that sexual assault is a serious matter, as I have dedicated my life to working with survivors of sexual assault and believe that the real tragedy here is that the defenses heard most passionately are those defending athletes, not the women assaulted by them. As much as you hope that I never have to endure the pain and anguish that the families of the lacrosse team suffered, I hope that you never have to endure the pain, anguish and devastation that sexual assault survivors, their families and friends must endure when their stories are disbelieved and they are personally attacked for coming forward against their perpetrators. Please contact me via e-mail at nicole@decadentdepravity.com if you desire any further discussion (which I’d be more than happy to make public, just not in a comment thread). Reply 2. R. B. Parrish says: February 3, 2011 at 9:09 am Well, the Attorney General of NC “followed” the lacrosse case quite closely also; if there had been any possibility of finding guilt of anything, he would have found it (and spared the state the possibility of liability). Instead, he declared (after an intensive investigation) that the accused were “innocent”, and said in a press conference that “nothing happened in that house”. I think that’s determinative. (DNA testing further cleared the entire team of any contact with their accuser–and did so two weeks before anyone was arrested.) (If DNA is not reliable, then we should return to prison the hundreds of men who have been released on weaker DNA evidence than was present in the Duke case). Finally, the accuser had a history of making false claims of gang rape; of attempts to murder her; of her grandmother being murdered; of lying to obtain drugs from hospitals, and making up other stories whenever it was convenient. When she was about to be committed to a detox center, she lied again and said she was raped, thus beginning the Duke case. She gave an even dozen versions of events–raped by 2,3, 4 , or 20 men, inside a tiny bathroom which couldn’t hold more than two. Sam Liebowitz, in defending the Scottsboro boys, said that any New York precinct sergeant who heard the story told by their accusers would have known within five minutes they were lying, and thrown them out. In the Duke case, the result should have been the same. Police knew who she was, where she lived, and that she had left two children at home alone, even before she had said a word. She was a known commodity. That they inflated her ludicrous claim and then went searching for a way to pin the crime on someone is indicative, not of honest police work, but of an attempt to frame; and the reasons for that, and the many civil rights violations which they committed in the process, need to be the subject of a federal investigation. sincerely, R. B. Parrish (author, “The Duke Lacrosse Case: A Documentary History and Analysis of the Modern Scottsboro”) Reply * Nicole Kubon says: February 3, 2011 at 7:11 pm In response to your comment I will say two things: 1) And this is hopefully the last time I will have to make this point…my article is not about the Duke Lacrosse case or my opinion about their guilt or innocence. What I was exploring in my article is sexual violence in professional athletics, the Duke Lacrosse case is just one of many examples I used of athletes “accused, convicted or acquitted” of sexual violence. 2) The final paragraph of your comment,”Police knew who she was, where she lived, and that she had left two children at home alone, even before she had said a word. She was a known commodity,” is a perfectly illustrated example of what I find devastating. That someone with a bad reputation is not capable of being sexually assaulted and that any entertainment of the idea that she might be telling the truth is nonsense. All kinds of men perpetrate sexual assault against all kinds of women on a daily basis. If a PROSTITUTE doesn’t want to have sex with someone and they force her to engage in sexual acts, even if they leave her with money afterward, she was still sexually assaulted. A person’s “reputation” should not qualify or disqualify them from being raped. Regardless of what actually occurred in the Duke Lacrosse case, the attitude offered about the “accuser” in this case is a perfect example of this contribution to a rape culture that I explored in the article. Reply 3. Cathy. S. Scott says: February 3, 2011 at 8:36 pm Nicole, To follow your own logic, a person’s “reputation” should not qualify or disqualify them from being rapists, either, yet you want to force this stereotyping of the Duke Lacrosse Team. If you are fully exploring the rape culture, I believe you must be fair. Otherwise your arguments dissolve into thin air. Reply * Nicole Kubon says: February 3, 2011 at 9:13 pm A person’s reputation does not qualify or disqualify them from being a rapist either. Rapists come in all kinds, from the wealthy, respected father and business man, to the star athlete, to the scum of the earth. My opinion having previously been made clear, it is exactly that, my opinion. And regardless of what actually happened the night the Duke Lacrosse scandal was born, for every man who is falsely accused of sexual assault, there are thousands of women who are disbelieved when they come forward about a sexual assault they experienced. So excuse my lack of concern for defending Duke Lacrosse. I will no longer let this line of conversation dominate my article. As is stated in the description of my website, “our site was created as an outlet, a resource center, a ventilator for frustration for the modern day feminist.” These comments are not of this nature and thus are inappropriate. Reply |
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| mike in houston | Feb 4 2011, 08:58 AM Post #8 |
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Here is what I wrote Defamation, Ms Kubon, is a legal matter. I would suggest that you retract you statement as to keep yourself from a possible legal action. You have made a statement of fact not opinion. That statement is a false one. You have been given a chance to retract it and you have not. You have opened yourself up to at least 46 actions against you. Please check with your attorney |
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| Joan Foster | Feb 4 2011, 10:19 AM Post #9 |
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When I read this sort of righteous dogma rhetoric from "Nicole" ...I'm reminded how similar these types are to the rural far right evangelicals they so ridicule and despise. In both cases, faith trumps fact, and a kind of self righteous superiority is assumed. No amount of information can sway those who have swooned with the headiness of their own virtue and access to Great Truth. Accuracy, evidence, anything detrimental to Dogma is forever denied. To do otherwise, would further underscore their foolishness and the their fluffy self-importance. This religiosity on the Left ...most of whom so revile religion...is most intriguing. Their Hysterics have just altered the group speak and revamped the sacraments. They are no different in approach..or lack of open thinking. Nicole fits the pattern of one who is certain she heard The Holy Snake speak the Ten Commandments from the pulpit...and later shown that the snake is a rubber hose and Preacher is a Con Man with a tape record circa 1965....will never yield. Years later, she will regale all with the "truthiness"of what she saw from her Sunday stall. Nicole saw the Holy Snake talk. She thinks it makes her morally elevated...instead she looks like she has rigor mortis of the mind. Best she stay on the Mountain with the others of her ilk. The real deal of the Duke Lacrosse Hoax was their widespread mortification of the Metanarrative. The general public saw their rigidity, their refusal to move off their "religious posture"...their bias...their selective empathy. Speaking of selective empathy, her hero, Professor Holloway...was proven to have much in common with the racist ole Southern sheriffs whose similar mindset preceded hers. Like Holloway, they made snap decisions on credibility based on Skin Hue. Like Holloway, they were prone to rush to judgement and advocate a Mob response. Holloway's shameful rush to publish the Listening Statement...will stand forever as a mockery of any post racial motives she might claim. It was a verbal lynching...a decision to listen to only those whose skin resembled hers. It displayed her own bigotry and the similar biases of all who signed...in a way that the general public could FINALLY understand. False accusation and Mob action of the sort that was directed at the Team...is it's own kind of Gang Rape: the victim is never the same...never can trust , relax, move about with out fear. There was most definitely a "Gang" quality to the rape of these boys reputations....the "thank You" to those carrying "Castrate them" signs by Duke professors; the classroom condemnations; the rabble-rousing media; the Black Panthers; the Fire-breathing "feminists"...what a circle they made.. encouraging the violence of those lies to continue! The fact that Nicole has such selective empathy and ignorance of the lifechanging burdens of False Accusation shows her Bias and "religious" blinders. She can't care. She believes The Snake talked. She can't make her Holy Church look any dumber than it already does. Facts are not important to today's Holy Rollers like Nicole. It makes her feel righteous, when really, off the Holy Mountain, she looks ridiculous. I've stopped arguing with people who know they saw Elvis at the local Walmart,,,,who think Snakes can speak with Human Tongues...who think "something happened." What happened was the Leftist Zealots made an indelible impression on an engaged public...that will never be forgotten...and did irreparable damage to real victims and to their own credibility. Off the Holy Mountain, of course. Edited by Joan Foster, Feb 4 2011, 11:00 AM.
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| MikeZPU | Feb 4 2011, 10:38 AM Post #10 |
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But she made the mistake of posting her email address  I know people like her: one thing (of many) about them is that they can never admit that they were wrong in these kinds of matter. |
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| darby | Feb 4 2011, 11:40 AM Post #11 |
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Her bio speaks volumes... What more could one expect from a proud, liberal, Detroit social worker who's ashamed of her mother's choices in spouses (working class, backwoods, redneck daddy and socially unaware stepdaddy) but couldn't be prouder of a mommy who taught her to "be all you can be" and produced a young woman with "a passion for the truth". |
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| Sydney Carton | Feb 4 2011, 12:19 PM Post #12 |
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This one is awaiting moderation.Want to bet she blots it out? Sydney Carton says: Your comment is awaiting moderation. February 4, 2011 at 12:14 pm As you fail to cite any source for your amazing statement that you have, presumably, otherwise unknown information that thousands of innocent women victims are disbelieved for every man who is falsely accused of rape ,all of your rational readers (whether male or female) will realize that that you are,possibly, as totally divorced from moral or logical reality as rape hoaxer Crystal Mangum. This is about a knowing and indefensable lie.There was no Lacrosse rape and you know it.Ventilating your frustration is no excuse for willfully deceiving others and inciting them to sterile hatred. Have you no shame? |
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| Texas Mom | Feb 4 2011, 12:39 PM Post #13 |
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There are far too many of these disaffected, mewling "social activists" around these days, wallowing in self-delusion, self-righteousness, and self-importance. They are in a misery of their own making and relish dragging others into their morass. As an elderly friend once said to a teenager venting his angst, "Jimmy, you wouldn't be happy sitting in God's lap, and the problem with your going to find yourself is that wherever you go, you've got to take yourself with you." I hope this tortured soul, Ms. Kubon, finds a good psychiatrist with a ready prescription pad. |
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| MikeZPU | Feb 4 2011, 01:27 PM Post #14 |
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This is OT, but: The tragedy of this case is the intense devastation that Mangum's lies -- which continue to this day -- have had on the families of the Lacrosse players. They are the true victims. I just realized Mangum's false accusations of rape have also probably cost her her livelihood of hooking and stripping. I was thinking of her arson trial and the testimony of the police who responded to the 911 call, their description of the desolate conditions that Mangum's children live a life of squalor in. Who is going to hire Mangum as either a prostitute or a stripper when she falsely accused three innocent men of rape (and also previously claimed to be gang-raped) ?? I mean what person can make a false accusation of rape and make it stick, even in the face of a voluminous dearth of scientific evidence contradicting her claims? I mean, if it weren't for the outstanding work of exceptional lawyers who cost millions of dollars, the falsely accused boys would be sitting in prison right now facing 30 years each. And who of Mangum's regular customers could afford such lawyers to defend themselves? And someone who hired her as a prostitute (or even a lap dance) would not be able to rely on the forensic evidence if she accused them of rape ... Edited by MikeZPU, Feb 4 2011, 04:19 PM.
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| Joan Foster | Feb 4 2011, 02:00 PM Post #15 |
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False accusation of the sort we witnessed , accompanied by threats of violence, mob hatred, public defamation and constant vilification is just as damaging as any gang rape IMO. Who do these kids and families ever trust? What fairness or justice can they believe in? Durham/Duke was possessed of a lynch mob mentality...and it was stoked by those with political self interest. Everybody had something to make for themselves by defiling these kids. And guess what? At Duke, at least, it was a career enhancer...a vehicle that took one on the faculty fast-track...to be a Liar, and a promoter of Lies, and a destroyer of reputations...and a certified member of the Verbal Lynch Mob. That's Duke University. This blogger thinks she's "sensitive" and evolved...to side with the Rapists of Reputations...the Promoters pf Lies. It's so...sophisticated. Bet she is "green"...hates Israel...loves Obama...wants no ones else religious morals standing in the way of her abortions...wants babies heads crushed if necessary to keep "religion" from her life...but wants HER morality imposed and PAID for...by everyone else. Her green energy...her abortions overseas...her Obamacare...HER religion must be imposed on Americam taxpayers..because...it's what a "moral"nation does. The New Leftist religion. Edited by Joan Foster, Feb 4 2011, 02:01 PM.
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