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CRYSTAL MANGUM TRIAL; December 2010
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She was convicted - and during sentencing her Criminal record is germane. So the Judge knew she stole a car and tried to Run over a Cop - but he simply Declared that she is a Good Mother and said she had been punished enough.

This has deteriorated into another category. I'm sorry.

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Mason
Dec 17 2010, 10:13 PM
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She was convicted - and during sentencing her Criminal record is germane. So the Judge knew she stole a car and tried to Run over a Cop - but he simply told the courtroom she is a Good Mother and said she had been punished enough.

This has deteriorated into another category. I'm sorry.

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Yes. And Crystal will be feeling mighty bullet proof, too. Look for her to up the ante for her next arrest...
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Dec 17 2010, 10:15 PM
Mason
Dec 17 2010, 10:13 PM
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She was convicted - and during sentencing her Criminal record is germane. So the Judge knew she stole a car and tried to Run over a Cop - but he simply told the courtroom she is a Good Mother and said she had been punished enough.

This has deteriorated into another category. I'm sorry.

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Yes. And Crystal will be feeling mighty bullet proof, too. Look for her to up the ante for her next arrest...
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Talk about emboldened.

She thought she owned the place before.

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I think the Durham consortium got everything they wanted.

The lawyers agreed the lacrosse case would NOT be brought up. (The prosecution thus threw
away a good chance to impeach Crystal's credibility).

Crystal was NOT put on the stand (where she might say something untoward...)

She walked without having to serve any more time and got the right to keep her children--
and was even called a "good mother" to boot.

What more could the consortium have wanted at the start of all this?

It worked out perfectly.

(JMOO, of course.)
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she is a Good Mother


You think there'd be an editorial about this tomorrow--
someone expressing outrage.

It would happen in other jurisdictions.

But not in Durham.
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We're back in familiar territory, she is that Mix of Mother Theresa and Rosa Parks.

Oh, the things that Mrs. Mangum can do.


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OK, folks, after seeing Durham "justice" in action, and after watching the court basically permit Mangum's supporters to play "Animal House" in the courtroom, does anyone really think that a Durham jury would have acquitted Reade, Collin, and David had this gone to trial?

I think we have our answer. There is a reason that a liar like Mike Nifong was elected DA in Durham and why Tracey Cline also was elected.

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Mason
Dec 17 2010, 10:13 PM
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She was convicted - and during sentencing her Criminal record is germane. So the Judge knew she stole a car and tried to Run over a Cop - but he simply Declared that she is a Good Mother and said she had been punished enough.

This has deteriorated into another category. I'm sorry.

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How can the judge declare she a good mother when she found guilty of neglect or to be exact three counts of child abuse?
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Dec 17 2010, 10:20 PM
I think the Durham consortium got everything they wanted.

The lawyers agreed the lacrosse case would NOT be brought up. (The prosecution thus threw
away a good chance to impeach Crystal's credibility).

Crystal was NOT put on the stand (where she might say something untoward...)

She walked without having to serve any more time and got the right to keep her children--
and was even called a "good mother" to boot.

What more could the consortium have wanted at the start of all this?

It worked out perfectly.

(JMOO, of course.)
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Kind of Vindicates the N&O.

They have a Declaration now of her being a Good Mother, something they claimed was important back then.

Mother, Sister, Accuser.


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The long term issue is that Crystal has put Durham on the map. Anyone thinking of moving their business there or investing in local business would have to think twice when they see how corrupt the judicial/political system has become. Cowbell hasn't been quiet for nothing. I have said before and will say again, Mayor Bell was a major player in the framing of Reade, Colin and Dave.
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Dec 17 2010, 10:43 PM
Mason
Dec 17 2010, 10:13 PM
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She was convicted - and during sentencing her Criminal record is germane. So the Judge knew she stole a car and tried to Run over a Cop - but he simply Declared that she is a Good Mother and said she had been punished enough.

This has deteriorated into another category. I'm sorry.

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How can the judge declare she a good mother when she found guilty of neglect?
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Further, I don't know what is in evidence that would make him come to such a conclusion.

She didn't testify and their only witness was not present on the night of the arrest, and testified only to a phone call she received from one of the kids.

The man heard that she destroyed property, falsely accused the Cops of battering her without asking her any questions, set a fire inside of the house, flattened tires, and never inquired to the location, handling, or safety of her kids. The Cops testified she was Wild, tried to overpower a female officer, resisted arrest, provided a false ID and SSN, and Lied repeatedly until admitting on Videotape that she was making it all up. He found out she falsely claimed she was pregnant - she claimed serious back problems and the testimony presented was that she moved like no one they had ever seen with back problems.

He learned the house had no furniture but beds and a fold-up lawn chair and the floor was riddled with debris making it hard to walk through even.

During Sentencing he would've learned of her prior criminal record and the fact she jacked a car and tried to run over a Cop.

Add in the Fresh convictions - and this Judge Deems and Declares her a Good Mother!

I think it was a fake and a Sham.

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Either a "fake and a sham", Mason or he has "intimate" knowledge of Crystal's talents that we are not privy to. I suspect that little black book is getting mighty full since 2006 when Ronald Stephens declared her cell phone off limits.
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I missed all the shenanigans this afternoon evening and just went through 20+ 27 web pages. A few [revised] thoughts:

GOOD NEWS

1) Crystal was found guilty of 5 misdemeanors to add to her rap sheet.
2) Because they involve contributing to the delinquency of juveniles (her children), we can hope that social services will stay involved.
3) 9 out of 12 jurors were ready to convict her of felony arson

4) Crystal's behavior as a mentally ill, prescription drug abusing grifter was again on display, countering the metanarrative of her as a victim
5) The tweeting by a reporter for the Herald-Sun (!) was useful and well-done, allowing us immediate access to courtroom developments.
6) Jackie Wagstaff's contempt conviction finally shut up the loud-mouthed (insert your favorite word here).
7) Because it was a mistrial there is a chance (unlikely) she could be recharged with a felony

BAD NEWS

1) Crystal was not convicted of the most serious charge of felony arson-- a mistrial being the unsatisfying result.
2) She will not get further time in prison to ponder the error of her ways.
3) She beats a felony on her rap sheet (for now).
4) She is back on the street where she will, inevitably, create mischief when she "freaks out" again.
5) Victoria P and Steve Matherly did not get the contempt citations they also richly deserved.
6) The kids are returned to her custody, setting them up for more traumatic experiences.
7) The judge is revealed as either stupid or gullible, calling Crystal a "good mother."
8) Observers of today's events, myself included, wrongly assumed that 9-3 was in favor of conviction. This would be the case in any other jurisdiction, especially since the defense attorney was asking for a mistrial instead of a not-guilty verdict.
9) "Durham justice" is again revealed as an oxymoron.


Quote of the day (from WRAL story):
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"I'm the only parent my children have ever known," she told the judge before sentencing, asking that she be able to see the children while prosecutors decide whether to retry the arson case.
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The man heard that she destroyed property, falsely accused the Cops of battering her without asking her any questions, set a fire inside of the house, flattened tires, and never inquired to the location, handling, or safety of her kids. The Cops testified she was Wild, tried to overpower a female officer, resisted arrest, provided a false ID and SSN, and Lied repeatedly until admitting on Videotape that she was making it all up. He found out she falsely claimed she was pregnant - she claimed serious back problems and the testimony presented was that she moved like no one they had ever seen with back problems.


And to top it all off she was living with a boyfriend she deemed as "Crazy" and schizofrenic.

Who knows what could have happened had the police not intervened. Did anyone ever ask Crystal how she had planned to put out the fire?

In 2002 a woman in DeKalb County, Georgia burned her boyfriend's clothes and the whole place caught fire and burned up her 3 year old.

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Three further ruminations:

1 ) considering the misreporting in this case (with a strong slant in Mangum's favor),
what would the reporting of a CDR trial have looked like?; and

2 ) I had wondered how Judge Jones would turn out. Who would the consortium want
to preside here--Judge Hudson? Stephens? Titus? (too obvious?) Maybe, just maybe,
because he was from out of town... (OK, so fool me once, shame on you; fool me eight
or nine times, and I still have hope in the NEXT judge to deal with the lax case or with
Mangum...?) and

3 ) What Durham judge could have handled a trial of CDR fairly? Especially considering
that said just would have been hand-picked by Nifong ("case management")?
Edited by Quasimodo, Dec 17 2010, 11:57 PM.
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