| CRYSTAL MANGUM TRIAL; December 2010 | |
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| mike in houston | Dec 16 2010, 01:01 PM Post #511 |
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MillikenTHS .The jury questions involve the three contributing to the abuse or neglect of a child charges and the resisting an officer charge. http://twitter.com/MillikenTHS# |
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| kbp | Dec 16 2010, 01:07 PM Post #512 |
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That makes it sound as if a person who purposefully fires a gun at a wall, which unknowingly kills a person on the other side of the wall, would be guilty of 1st degree murder. We could go into kids with fireworks in a house also here. I find it hard to believe Crystal anticipated burning the clothes in the tub, those belonging to the man she was having the domextic dispute with, would start the structure on fire. If I wanted to burn the house (or duplex) down, I sure wouldn't start the blaze in the bath tub. What ever the verdict is on the arson, I do hope she is jailed for any crimes they did prove. And I do not believe the judge said he would not seek to take the children if she was found not guilty of arson. I see cases everyday where they take children for NEGLECT where most would not see neglect, so it's pure BS to say the conviction is necessary to take them. Even if the house did not burn, the smoke and possibilty it might is NEGLECT. (I agree with Quasi that the intent of the DA's office may have been to not get a conviction. The lesser charge being unattended is rather telling in itself) BIG BIG BIG THANKS to Chatham and all reporting here! |
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| jewelcove | Dec 16 2010, 01:13 PM Post #513 |
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This small d*ck comment keeps flashing my mind back to Kim's parting comment to the at 610 B in March 2006. Didn't she tell 60 Minutes that she had insulted the party goers with a derogatory comment about the size of their "junk" and how they used it? Edited by jewelcove, Dec 16 2010, 01:14 PM.
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| MikeKell | Dec 16 2010, 01:16 PM Post #514 |
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Still a Newbie
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33 readers! Ah feels like old times :D |
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| MikeZPU | Dec 16 2010, 01:21 PM Post #515 |
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To me, just speculating, they've already found her not guilty of the 1st degree arson charge. And now it sounds like some members of the jury question whether Mangum should have even be arrested in the first place. I hope I'm wrong, but that's how I am interpreting the question. Well, Durham has to live with the monster they created. This monster will become even bigger, more empowered, more recklessly arrogant (if possible) if she walks on all the charges. AND the kids will suffer the most. |
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| jmoo | Dec 16 2010, 01:22 PM Post #516 |
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Black female foreperson |
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| ~J~ is in Wonderland | Dec 16 2010, 01:26 PM Post #517 |
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I sure hope your are wrong...for the kids sake. |
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| jmoo | Dec 16 2010, 01:26 PM Post #518 |
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I'm having a very hard time hearing... Jury had 3 questions: What constitutes lawful arrest? Judge re-read original instructions. What is the legal definition of abuse & neglect? Judge re-read whole instruction & statute definition of abuse/neglect. 1. Defendant at least 16 years old 2) defendant caused children to be in place/pos whereby they can be abused/neg 3) ?? 4) willful. Definitions - "Abused children" - juv less than 18 whose parent/guar/cust creates or allows to be created a substantial risk of serious risk of injury. "Neglected children" juv who does not receive proper care or discipline from parent/custodian/etc Third question had to do with abuse/neglect also. The judge also explained that the jury only needed to consider the abuse charge if they found guilt with respect to the arson charge. Back to the jury room.... |
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| ~J~ is in Wonderland | Dec 16 2010, 01:28 PM Post #519 |
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The jury has returned to its room, although a lunch break is imminent. I saw lots of serious expressions and no smiles on their faces. Millken THS |
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| jmoo | Dec 16 2010, 01:28 PM Post #520 |
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It sounded like they (judge & prosecution) believed the jury was struggling with whether CGM communicated a threat or not. Said it didn't matter since she wasn't changed with that. |
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| jmoo | Dec 16 2010, 01:33 PM Post #521 |
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Victoria just arrived.... Jackie's already here. Jury coming back in courtroom. |
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| ~J~ is in Wonderland | Dec 16 2010, 01:33 PM Post #522 |
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The Judge has said this many times. Maybe --they have found her guilty of the arson charge already???? Maybe that's why they are asking about the abuse charges???? Right......? |
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| jmoo | Dec 16 2010, 01:34 PM Post #523 |
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Lunch break until 2:45 |
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| ~J~ is in Wonderland | Dec 16 2010, 01:34 PM Post #524 |
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~J~ is in Wonderland
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Crap....
Edited by ~J~ is in Wonderland, Dec 16 2010, 01:34 PM.
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| jmoo | Dec 16 2010, 01:38 PM Post #525 |
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Sorry but I'm going to head out -- needed to leave by 3p anyway... |
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