| CRYSTAL MANGUM TRIAL; December 2010 | |
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| ~J~ is in Wonderland | Dec 13 2010, 09:37 PM Post #331 |
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Jones will allow a videotaped interrogation of Mangum by a Durham police investigator who is likely to testify as the prosecution rests its case on Tuesday Read more: http://blogs.newsobserver.com/bullseye/crystal-mangum-trial-day-3#ixzz1838J8zUb Oh man! We have to see this video..........
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| Deleted User | Dec 13 2010, 10:30 PM Post #332 |
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This is going to be rich. Grab your box of tissues folks. It should be riveting. |
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| sdsgo | Dec 13 2010, 11:24 PM Post #333 |
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Walt-in-Durham: “The state's next witness was Fire Captain Ray (unsure about the spelling). Fire Captain Rey testified that when he arrived at 12:15 AM (0015 hours) he saw smoke billowing from the gable end of the apartment. When he and a firefighter opened the front door of the apartment, they found smoke to the floor. They had to don protective gear (masks and tanks in addition to turnout coats and pants) for their own safety. They charged the line and then entered the apartment.” When you consider that most fire victims die from the smoke and not the fire, it’s easy to see why the magistrate added the attempted murder charge. Baldo: “Does anyone know if Mani Dexter of the Amos G. Tyndall Law Firm is being paid by the Durham Judicial Court system as a public defender, or is this pro bono? Or is someone else picking up the tab?” When you have the facts on your side, argue the facts. When you don’t have the facts, argue the law. When you have neither the facts nor the law, collect your fee upfront. No doubt the State agreed not to bring up Crystal’s prior history, but only if she did not deny starting the fire. Crystal started the fire – that’s a fact. Dexter’s only option was to argue the law. She had no option but to seek to suppress evidence, claim physical and mental impairment, blame the police, and finally, argue that Crystal only burnt her boyfriend’s clothes and thus should have been charged with a lesser crime. At the same time, Dexter sought to minimize the ultimate sentence (she faces up to 30 years) by creating the illusion that Crystal took responsibility for her own actions. Jury nullification? Not likely for a woman who thought so little of her own children’s safety. Thanks for the great reporting. Edited by sdsgo, Dec 13 2010, 11:31 PM.
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| sceptical | Dec 13 2010, 11:24 PM Post #334 |
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From the N&O:
So it looks like a stoned Mangum will confess to setting the fire in the tape. Very interesting... |
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| LTC8K6 | Dec 13 2010, 11:28 PM Post #335 |
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Assistant to The Devil Himself
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| MikeZPU | Dec 13 2010, 11:35 PM Post #336 |
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LTC: that is a GREAT emoticon! Haha! |
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| Quasimodo | Dec 14 2010, 08:46 AM Post #337 |
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1 ) I wish the media would stop saying "who Attorney General Cooper said"... I assume they wish to convey the idea that the AG declared the accused to be innocent. But with this phrasing, it makes it appear to be a qualifier--"Cooper SAID she falsely accused....(but that's not necessarily so...)" How about, "whom Cooper found-declared-determined-confirmed-discovered-had falsely accused..."? 2 ) I'd like to see the pictures of the scene, and have them posted on the NET so that everyone can see what was done, so that there is no question either way about whether the fire was a small, confined blaze or if it was much more than that. I think these pictures need to be seen, for the same reason that pictures of the bathroom at 610 N. Buchanan need to have been seen. However, in this case every bit of evidence which might tend to show Crystal in a bad light seems to be guarded as though it were an issue of national security... (MOO) |
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| Walt-in-Durham | Dec 14 2010, 08:51 AM Post #338 |
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The ADA having won the war, by losing the motion to suppress Captain Abney's testimony about Crystal's denial of starting the fire, is now taking a calculated risk by offering the interrogation video in his case-in-chief. What he is doing is putting Crystal in the position of having to get on the stand and tell a different version than what she gave police during her investigation. If she adopts the interrogation as the truth, she's convicted. If she claims something else then she confirms that she is an untruthful witness. (We just don't know when she was untruthful.) A story at odds with her video taped interview also opens the door to cross examination with her other examples of changing stories. For example the lacrosse fiasco stories. His other option was to hold the tape and use it to impeach Crystal if she testified. It would have been even more powerful as impeachment evidence. Further, it would have forced Crystal to testify a second time. Everyone who has seen her performances before, or just read the written record, knows she cannot deliver the same lines twice. The state's handling of this part of the trial has been masterful. I wish that defense counsel was showing some of the same grit. Unfortunately, she has Crystal to work with. Not much there. Walt-in-Durham |
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| MikeZPU | Dec 14 2010, 11:02 AM Post #339 |
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Thanks Walt! I wish the prosecuting ADA was consulting with you! |
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| Quasimodo | Dec 14 2010, 12:00 PM Post #340 |
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| Quasimodo | Dec 14 2010, 12:06 PM Post #341 |
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Seems to be a contradiction here... |
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| Quasimodo | Dec 14 2010, 12:35 PM Post #342 |
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| Quasimodo | Dec 14 2010, 12:53 PM Post #343 |
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Like photos of the damage to the apartment, I would also like to be able to see this video, en toto, rather than have to just read about snippets from it. It could be placed on YouTube with no problem. It is a court document, as much as any written interrogation which has been introduced into evidence. |
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| MikeZPU | Dec 14 2010, 01:03 PM Post #344 |
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I hope and pray that they took pictures of Mangum's face (or I wonder how clearly can you see her face in the video?) If a grown man like Milton had punched Mangum in the face multiple times with his bare fists, there should have been some visible damage to her face. |
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| ~J~ is in Wonderland | Dec 14 2010, 01:13 PM Post #345 |
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Let's see if I can help clear up or add to the news reports above. Maybe some of our others hooligans will weigh in later today on what happened after I left. |
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