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CRYSTAL MANGUM TRIAL; December 2010
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Jones will allow a videotaped interrogation of Mangum by a Durham police investigator who is likely to testify as the prosecution rests its case on Tuesday

Read more: http://blogs.newsobserver.com/bullseye/crystal-mangum-trial-day-3#ixzz1838J8zUb

Oh man! We have to see this video.......... :fspin:
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~J~ is in Wonderland
Dec 13 2010, 09:37 PM
Jones will allow a videotaped interrogation of Mangum by a Durham police investigator who is likely to testify as the prosecution rests its case on Tuesday

Read more: http://blogs.newsobserver.com/bullseye/crystal-mangum-trial-day-3#ixzz1838J8zUb

Oh man! We have to see this video.......... :fspin:
This is going to be rich. Grab your box of tissues folks. It should be riveting.
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Walt-in-Durham: “The state's next witness was Fire Captain Ray (unsure about the spelling). Fire Captain Rey testified that when he arrived at 12:15 AM (0015 hours) he saw smoke billowing from the gable end of the apartment. When he and a firefighter opened the front door of the apartment, they found smoke to the floor. They had to don protective gear (masks and tanks in addition to turnout coats and pants) for their own safety. They charged the line and then entered the apartment.”
When you consider that most fire victims die from the smoke and not the fire, it’s easy to see why the magistrate added the attempted murder charge.

Baldo: “Does anyone know if Mani Dexter of the Amos G. Tyndall Law Firm is being paid by the Durham Judicial Court system as a public defender, or is this pro bono? Or is someone else picking up the tab?”

When you have the facts on your side, argue the facts.
When you don’t have the facts, argue the law.
When you have neither the facts nor the law, collect your fee upfront.

No doubt the State agreed not to bring up Crystal’s prior history, but only if she did not deny starting the fire. Crystal started the fire – that’s a fact. Dexter’s only option was to argue the law. She had no option but to seek to suppress evidence, claim physical and mental impairment, blame the police, and finally, argue that Crystal only burnt her boyfriend’s clothes and thus should have been charged with a lesser crime. At the same time, Dexter sought to minimize the ultimate sentence (she faces up to 30 years) by creating the illusion that Crystal took responsibility for her own actions. Jury nullification? Not likely for a woman who thought so little of her own children’s safety.

Thanks for the great reporting.
Edited by sdsgo, Dec 13 2010, 11:31 PM.
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~J~ is in Wonderland
Dec 13 2010, 09:37 PM
Jones will allow a videotaped interrogation of Mangum by a Durham police investigator who is likely to testify as the prosecution rests its case on Tuesday

Read more: http://blogs.newsobserver.com/bullseye/crystal-mangum-trial-day-3#ixzz1838J8zUb

Oh man! We have to see this video.......... :fspin:
From the N&O:


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Jones will allow a videotaped interrogation of Mangum by a Durham police investigator who is likely to testify as the prosecution rests its case on Tuesday.

Dexter tried to persuade Jones to suppress the statement because Mangum, who suffers chronic back pain and headaches, was medicated after a spinal tap on the morning before the incident and deprived of sleep over two nights leading up to the questioning.

Dexter also said the detective had implied Mangum might draw lesser charges if she confessed in the case.


Read more: http://blogs.newsobserver.com/bullseye/crystal-mangum-trial-day-3#ixzz183ZxZzZW


So it looks like a stoned Mangum will confess to setting the fire in the tape. Very interesting...
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Dec 13 2010, 11:28 PM
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LTC: that is a GREAT emoticon! Haha!
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http://charlotte.news14.com/content/top_stories/634051/policeman--firefighter-testify-in-mangum-arson-trial

DURHAM – The trial for Crystal Mangum continued Monday in a Durham courtroom.

She faces charges of first degree arson as well as other charges for a February domestic dispute incident. Mangum is the woman who Attorney General Roy Cooper said falsely accused three members in the Duke lacrosse team of raping her.

Three people testified Monday about the night of the arson. A Durham police officer, a Durham firefighter and a fire investigator took the stand. They described the extent of damage and showed jurors pictures of the scene.

(snip)


1 ) I wish the media would stop saying "who Attorney General Cooper said"... I assume they wish to convey the idea that
the AG declared the accused to be innocent. But with this phrasing, it makes it appear to be a qualifier--"Cooper SAID
she falsely accused....(but that's not necessarily so...)"

How about, "whom Cooper found-declared-determined-confirmed-discovered-had falsely accused..."?

2 ) I'd like to see the pictures of the scene, and have them posted on the NET so that everyone can see
what was done, so that there is no question either way about whether the fire was a small, confined
blaze or if it was much more than that.

I think these pictures need to be seen, for the same reason that pictures of the bathroom at 610 N. Buchanan
need to have been seen.

However, in this case every bit of evidence which might tend to show Crystal in a bad light seems to be
guarded as though it were an issue of national security...


(MOO)
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~J~ is in Wonderland
Dec 13 2010, 09:37 PM
Jones will allow a videotaped interrogation of Mangum by a Durham police investigator who is likely to testify as the prosecution rests its case on Tuesday

Read more: http://blogs.newsobserver.com/bullseye/crystal-mangum-trial-day-3#ixzz1838J8zUb

Oh man! We have to see this video.......... :fspin:
The ADA having won the war, by losing the motion to suppress Captain Abney's testimony about Crystal's denial of starting the fire, is now taking a calculated risk by offering the interrogation video in his case-in-chief. What he is doing is putting Crystal in the position of having to get on the stand and tell a different version than what she gave police during her investigation. If she adopts the interrogation as the truth, she's convicted. If she claims something else then she confirms that she is an untruthful witness. (We just don't know when she was untruthful.) A story at odds with her video taped interview also opens the door to cross examination with her other examples of changing stories. For example the lacrosse fiasco stories.

His other option was to hold the tape and use it to impeach Crystal if she testified. It would have been even more powerful as impeachment evidence. Further, it would have forced Crystal to testify a second time. Everyone who has seen her performances before, or just read the written record, knows she cannot deliver the same lines twice.

The state's handling of this part of the trial has been masterful. I wish that defense counsel was showing some of the same grit. Unfortunately, she has Crystal to work with. Not much there.

Walt-in-Durham
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Dec 14 2010, 08:51 AM
The ADA having won the war, by losing the motion to suppress Captain Abney's testimony about Crystal's denial of starting the fire, is now taking a calculated risk by offering the interrogation video in his case-in-chief. What he is doing is putting Crystal in the position of having to get on the stand and tell a different version than what she gave police during her investigation. If she adopts the interrogation as the truth, she's convicted. If she claims something else then she confirms that she is an untruthful witness. (We just don't know when she was untruthful.) A story at odds with her video taped interview also opens the door to cross examination with her other examples of changing stories. For example the lacrosse fiasco stories.

His other option was to hold the tape and use it to impeach Crystal if she testified. It would have been even more powerful as impeachment evidence. Further, it would have forced Crystal to testify a second time. Everyone who has seen her performances before, or just read the written record, knows she cannot deliver the same lines twice.

The state's handling of this part of the trial has been masterful. I wish that defense counsel was showing some of the same grit. Unfortunately, she has Crystal to work with. Not much there.

Walt-in-Durham
Thanks Walt! I wish the prosecuting ADA was consulting with you!
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http://abclocal.go.com/wtvd/story?section=news/local&id=7842850&rss=rss-wtvd-article-7842850

Video interview shown to Mangum jury


DURHAM (WTVD) -- The jury deciding the fate of former Duke Lacrosse accuser Crystal Mangum watched a video Tuesday of her interview with police made right after her arrest.

(snip)

In the video shown to jurors Tuesday, Mangum tells a police officer that her boyfriend repeatedly hit her in the face in front of her children who began to scream and cry.

During the emotional interview in which Mangum cries, she denies setting her boyfriend's clothes on fire and using a vacuum cleaner to damage his car windows.

(snip)

She told police her boyfriend suffers from schizophrenia and damaged his own car and possibly set his own clothes on fire inside a bathtub at the couple's apartment.

Also, she claims when police arrived, they threw her on the ground and accused her of resisting arrest before asking her any questions.

Police officers have already testified in the trial that Mangum was uncooperative and threatened her boyfriend in their presence.

(snip)
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During the emotional interview in which Mangum cries, she denies setting her boyfriend's clothes on fire and using a vacuum cleaner to damage his car windows.


Seems to be a contradiction here...
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http://www.newsobserver.com/2010/12/14/862038/jury-shown-mangum-interrogation.html

Jury shown Mangum interrogation video

BY JESSE JAMES DECONTO - STAFF WRITER

Durham -- In a videotaped interview shown to the jury this morning, Crystal Mangum confessed to smashing her boyfriend Milton Walker's windshield with a vacuum cleaner and setting his clothes in fire after she says he punched her in the face repeatedly.

Detective L.C. Bond interrogated Mangum around midday on Feb. 15 just hours after police responded to a 911 call from her daughter reporting a fight between Mangum and Walker.

Mangum initially denied the arson and vandalism saying Walker damaged his own things. "He's crazy," she said, but Bond told Mangum that her attempted murder charge seemed excessive and pressed her to confess to damaging Walker's property.




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Like photos of the damage to the apartment, I would
also like to be able to see this video, en toto, rather than
have to just read about snippets from it.

It could be placed on YouTube with no problem.

It is a court document, as much as any written interrogation which
has been introduced into evidence.

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I hope and pray that they took pictures of Mangum's face
(or I wonder how clearly can you see her face in the video?)

If a grown man like Milton had punched Mangum in the face multiple times
with his bare fists, there should have been some visible damage to her face.

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Let's see if I can help clear up or add to the news reports above.

Maybe some of our others hooligans will weigh in later today on what happened after I left.
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