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CRYSTAL MANGUM TRIAL; December 2010
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There's a perfect opportunity for Matherly, Peterson - all the 88's, etc - the whole lot of the potbangers to get things into court and find out what really happened.

The pending lawsuits.

What are they waiting for? They claim to want their day in court.

JUST DO IT!
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Dec 8 2010, 07:14 PM
There's a perfect opportunity for Matherly, Peterson - all the 88's, etc - the whole lot of the potbangers to get things into court and find out what really happened.

The pending lawsuits.

What are they waiting for? They claim to want their day in court.

JUST DO IT!
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"Opening statements begin Thursday."
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How much money is Durham willing to spend on One Citizen?

This is beyond ridiculous - and I'm not speaking of just this Jury Selection - I'm speaking of how much she has sucked out of the public coffers all along.

Hell, they need an agency called the Dept. of Crystal Mangum.

This woman showed up at Social Services seeking CASH.

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Per WTVD

Crystal Mangum trial to start Thursday

DURHAM (WTVD) -- Opening statements are set to begin Thursday morning in Crystal Mangum's arson trial.

Mangum was at the center of the Duke Lacrosse case and is now charged with felony arson stemming from a domestic dispute with her boyfriend earlier this year.

It took five days, but a jury was seated in her case Wednesday.

Dozens of potential jurors were screened one-by-one --highly unusual for an arson case-- and let go, because many of the potential jurors already knew her as the woman who falsely accused several Duke Lacrosse players of rape in 2006.

Judge Abe Jones now has 12 jurors and two alternates to start the case.

The jury will have to decide if Magnum is guilty of felony first degree arson.

Police say back in February she punched and scratched her then-boyfriend Milton Walker, threw his clothes in a tub and set them on fire, all while her three kids and police were in the house.

She is also charged with three counts of contributing to the delinquency of a minor, injury to personal property and resisting a public officer.

Opening statements will begin at the Durham County Courthouse at 8 a.m

http://abclocal.go.com/wtvd/story?section=news/local&id=7833099

I still don't know how this thing started last Monday and went until the following Wednesday COB and they are reporting 5 days. The court has been handling this case for 8 days, I guess other motions were being ruled on.

Average trial of this type in that courtroom is about 2.5 hours - we are Eight days and just getting to opening statements.

40 Jurors (or prospective jurors) were interviewed !


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Edited by Mason, Dec 9 2010, 03:35 AM.
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This says-opening statements start at 8:00.
The Courthouse doesn't open until 8:30. Usually things in the court room don't start until 9:30.
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Dec 9 2010, 07:27 AM
This says-opening statements start at 8:00.
The Courthouse doesn't open until 8:30. Usually things in the court room don't start until 9:30.
They probably want opening statements to start at 8:00 so no one will be there to hear the blather. It's not likely that Crusty has come home from her night job by that time anyway.
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Unfortunately, I bet she walks on the arson charge.

I think (and hope) that she will be found guilty of some of the minor charges
BUT I am also afraid that she'll once again get a slap in the wrists:
time-served and a couple weekend furloughs.

It's still beyond belief that all she got was a couple weekend furloughs
after stealing a cab, taking it for a joyride, and then almost running down
a cop before crashing the stolen vehicle. I wish the people in the jury knew
that she almost killed a cop and yet, incredibly, only got a slap in the wrists
as punishment.

Most anyone else would have had the book thrown at them, but not Durham's
"precious" Crystal.
Edited by MikeZPU, Dec 9 2010, 10:54 AM.
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She's going to walk, and then we are going to hear how poor Crystal had to go through the legal process while Reade, Dave, and Collin bypassed it...

And then I will :puk:
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MikeZPU: “Unfortunately, I bet she walks on the arson charge.”

Mani Dexter is simply blowing smoke. If you want to burn someone’s clothes, do it outside or in the fireplace. Mani would have valid argument if Crystal immediately told the police about the fire. Instead, she deliberately put the dwelling, her own children, and other people at serious risk by trying to outwait the police. Fortunately, no one got hurt, but the fire caused damage to the dwelling. (The bathtub is part of the dwelling.)

Crystal willfully and maliciously started a fire inside an inhabited dwelling of another and made no effort to contain the damage. State law holds people responsible for the natural consequences of their act.

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http://www.newsobserver.com/2010/12/09/853245/proceedings-begin-in-mangum-arson.html

Proceedings begin in Mangum arson trial

BY JESSE JAMES DECONTO - STAFF WRITER

DURHAM -- Prosecutor Mark McCullough opened Crystal Mangum’s arson trial today with the names of her three children, Richard, Ariana and Kayla, and the address of 2220 Lincoln St. where they were living with her in February.

“That residence had a fire started in it while they were in it -- by her,” McCullough said, pointing his finger at Mangum. “This case is not complicated.”

Defense attorney Mani Dexter, though, responded in her opening statement with a quote from Dr. Phil: “Even the flattest pancake has two sides.”

McCullough began his evidence by calling the responding officers to testify today.

Dexter did not deny the basic facts of the case:

That Mangum piled her boyfriend Milton Walker’s clothes in the bathtub and set them on fire, then threatened to stab Walker, all in the presence of two police officers who had gone to the couple’s home after Ariana called 911 to say they were fighting and her mother was “going to die.” Police say Mangum also gave them her sister’s name as her own and struggled as they tried to arrest her.

She is charged with arson, injury to personal property, resisting arrest and contributing to the delinquency, abuse or neglect of her children.

But Dexter pins the blame on the officers for instigating the crimes by bringing a shirtless and shoeless Walker back into the apartment when he came shivering to the door and saying he’d been waiting in the bushes until police arrived.

“Corporal [John] Tyler has been an officer for 12 years. He understands how volatile domestic situations can be,” said Dexter. “He decides to bring Milton Walker into the house. When he does so, the kids run in fright and panic into the back of the house.

Crystal reacts. She makes a threat.”


Throughout her questioning of jurors over the past week, Dexter hinted she intends to challenge the legal basis for an arson charge. She insisted that jurors understand the law requires someone charged with arson to have set fire to someone else’s home; McCullough will have to prove the home belonged to the children and Walker as much as it did to Mangum.

Dexter will also try to convince the jury what she couldn’t convince Superior Court Judge Abe Jones last week: That police never should have entered Mangum’s home without her permission.

If they hadn’t, Dexter argued, they never would have had evidence to charge Mangum, and she may never have threatened Walker. Jones denied Dexter’s motion to suppress the evidence, saying the officers had a duty to make sure the children were safe.

(snip)


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Dexter did not deny the basic facts of the case:


What does that do to Walker's credibility?
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Dec 9 2010, 01:01 PM
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http://www.newsobserver.com/2010/12/09/853245/proceedings-begin-in-mangum-arson.html

Proceedings begin in Mangum arson trial

BY JESSE JAMES DECONTO - STAFF WRITER

DURHAM -- Prosecutor Mark McCullough opened Crystal Mangum’s arson trial today with the names of her three children, Richard, Ariana and Kayla, and the address of 2220 Lincoln St. where they were living with her in February.

“That residence had a fire started in it while they were in it -- by her,” McCullough said, pointing his finger at Mangum. “This case is not complicated.”

Defense attorney Mani Dexter, though, responded in her opening statement with a quote from Dr. Phil: “Even the flattest pancake has two sides.”

McCullough began his evidence by calling the responding officers to testify today.

Dexter did not deny the basic facts of the case:

That Mangum piled her boyfriend Milton Walker’s clothes in the bathtub and set them on fire, then threatened to stab Walker, all in the presence of two police officers who had gone to the couple’s home after Ariana called 911 to say they were fighting and her mother was “going to die.” Police say Mangum also gave them her sister’s name as her own and struggled as they tried to arrest her.

She is charged with arson, injury to personal property, resisting arrest and contributing to the delinquency, abuse or neglect of her children.

But Dexter pins the blame on the officers for instigating the crimes by bringing a shirtless and shoeless Walker back into the apartment when he came shivering to the door and saying he’d been waiting in the bushes until police arrived.

“Corporal [John] Tyler has been an officer for 12 years. He understands how volatile domestic situations can be,” said Dexter. “He decides to bring Milton Walker into the house. When he does so, the kids run in fright and panic into the back of the house.

Crystal reacts. She makes a threat.”


Throughout her questioning of jurors over the past week, Dexter hinted she intends to challenge the legal basis for an arson charge. She insisted that jurors understand the law requires someone charged with arson to have set fire to someone else’s home; McCullough will have to prove the home belonged to the children and Walker as much as it did to Mangum.

Dexter will also try to convince the jury what she couldn’t convince Superior Court Judge Abe Jones last week: That police never should have entered Mangum’s home without her permission.

If they hadn’t, Dexter argued, they never would have had evidence to charge Mangum, and she may never have threatened Walker. Jones denied Dexter’s motion to suppress the evidence, saying the officers had a duty to make sure the children were safe.

(snip)


Of course, Crystal HAS to make a threat. If she didn't, :SarC: why, that half naked man surrounded by police would have hurt her or her poor little children.

Yep, but for Crystal's threat all hell would have broken loose. And once she made the threat, why, she just had to burn his clothes because...because..
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Wednesday, December 8, 2010

THE 14TH JUROR

Today was the day of "The 14th Juror".

(snip)

Yesterday, the DA passed on three black folks in a row because they said that they would prefer to have "direct" evidence in addition to circumstantial evidence before they could convict someone. Today, we had a procession of prejudiced people who, one after another, stated with straight faces that, based on what they had heard in the media about Crystal concerning the Lacrosse case, that they would not be able to treat her fairly. They sat up there and admitted to their bias.

Here's the thing that infuriates me: There was never a trial, everything they heard (and apparently) believed came from the lawyers of those young men, and none of it was proven in a court of law.

(snip)

People get SO upset if you call them racist or prejudiced but there it was today in living color!!!
I'm not sure I get his point. Would he rather that the potential jurors lie and say that they could treat her fairly? I don't think their statement that they couldn't treat her fairly due to the lacrosse case had anything to do with her skin color. They admitted they probably couldn't treat her fairly because of what they had heard. If they had been racist or prejudiced, they wouldn't have cared about what they had heard about her. They would have only cared about the color of her skin.

Interesting man, this Steve Matherly.
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Looks like you already have a pretty good idea of what happened this morning.
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The jury consist of:
5-white females
4-black females
1-Hispanic looking female
1-black male
1-white male
2-white male alternates
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