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| LTC8K6 | Aug 9 2010, 03:58 PM Post #1 |
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That's right, the latest bailout bill that Pelosi is recalling the House for... They haven't even bothered to name it... Now not only do they not need to read them, they don't even have to name them... http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/242776/all-important-bill-congress-has-rushed-washington-pass-kathryn-jean-lopez |
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| kbp | Aug 9 2010, 04:36 PM Post #2 |
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They've been calling it "another jobs bill" in the press. |
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| Baldo | Aug 9 2010, 05:38 PM Post #3 |
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Welcome to the Obama Administration, the self-proclaimed most transparent Administration in History! 1) We pass bills that we don't read 2) We pass bills that we don't read and we don't let the opposition read 3) Now we pass a bill we don't name ![]() 4) What is next? We pass bills we don't read, don't name. and don't vote on? PS Did someone move Durham to DC? Edited by Baldo, Aug 9 2010, 05:39 PM.
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| kbp | Aug 9 2010, 05:47 PM Post #4 |
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I think that last option covers the most recent non-existant budget. |
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| Kerri P. | Aug 10 2010, 06:44 AM Post #5 |
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http://www.wral.com/news/political/story/8109997/ House moves to help teachers, public workers Posted: 3:07 a.m. today Updated: 6:03 a.m. today WASHINGTON — Hoping to show disenchanted voters that they are the party that cares about jobs, House Democrats are convening an emergency session to pass a bill aimed at saving hundreds of thousands of teachers and other public workers from unemployment. Lawmakers rushing back from town hall meetings and vacations for the one-day session Tuesday may also address another issue that will be on voters’ minds this November — lax border security — with passage of a $600 million bill to beef up surveillance along the U.S.-Mexican border. House Speaker Nancy Pelosi took the unusual step of summoning representatives back to Washington because the Senate passed both the $26 billion jobs bill and the border security bill last Thursday, after the House had already departed for its six-week summer break. Snip..... |
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| LTC8K6 | Aug 10 2010, 07:04 AM Post #6 |
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"We have to pass it to find out what it's called." |
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| Baldo | Aug 10 2010, 08:15 AM Post #7 |
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It get worse. The "unnamed" bill is to save 161,000 teachers jobs and extend medical benefits to the poor. The Democratic Leadership claims it is paid for. So guess how they paid for it? They cut food stamps in 2014 and they raised taxes on some corporations. Yep, they cut the amount they plan to spend in 2014, that hasn't been collected, and we know the truth they won't, so that they can say the bill is paid for. In the meanwhile it is alleged the bill prevents school districts from cutting employees. For example they can't cut administrators. Who knows as we don't know what is in it! Meanwhile Dems are patting themselves on the back. Imaginary savings that haven't or won't be made, to pay an unnamed bill, that hasn't been read, under a budget that hasn't been passed, and that is in the future four years away! |
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| Acc Esq | Aug 10 2010, 09:34 AM Post #8 |
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Two constitutional amendments are all we need to reign in the current lawless power-grabbers wrecking the country now and preventing future recurrences: 1. "Every law, or resolution having the force of law, shall relate to but one subject, and that shall be expressed in the title." 2. "To regulate commerce with foreign nations, and among the several States, and with the Indian tribes; but neither this, nor any other clause contained in the Constitution, shall ever be construed to delegate the power to Congress to appropriate money for any internal improvement intended to facilitate commerce." A third amendment would be welcome: "The President may approve any appropriation and disapprove any other appropriation in the same bill. In such case he shall, in signing the bill, designate the appropriations disapproved; and shall return a copy of such appropriations, with his objections, to the House in which the bill shall have originated; and the same proceedings shall then be had as in case of other bills disapproved by the President." The verbatim precedent for these provisions? None other than the prescient framers of the Confederate Constitution in 1861 |
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| kbp | Aug 10 2010, 10:52 AM Post #9 |
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The new ‘PayGo’???? Pay today with tomorrows cuts? “I’ll gladly pay you Tuesday for a hamburger today” Wimpy, 1932 |
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| Baldo | Aug 10 2010, 11:00 AM Post #10 |
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Wimpy was just ahead of his time ![]() He would have been a great Congressmen! |
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| kbp | Aug 10 2010, 11:05 AM Post #11 |
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I think even we could work past those here ….knowing of many examples on how the courts have twisted the words in our present Constitution! |
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| Baldo | Aug 10 2010, 11:47 AM Post #12 |
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Although I agree on those amendments it still doesn't address the root cause, the lack of ethics in our politicians. They lie, ofuscate, and refuse to govern in a straight forward and honest manner. What addresses those issues? What will put goodness at their core? Edited by Baldo, Aug 10 2010, 11:48 AM.
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| Mason | Aug 10 2010, 12:21 PM Post #13 |
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. When Wimpy is invoked, people listen. . |
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| Baldo | Aug 10 2010, 12:25 PM Post #14 |
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I listened to Prof Allen Meltzer of Carnegie Mellon talk about this bill. He said it is nothing but a way to pay off Obama's backers. The benefits will be one year of employment and then what? The States will still be in the same position next year. He said some Corporate Businesses are making money because they have reduced employees/overhead and any investment is on those which reduce employment and until Obama and Congress stop making the cost of employees higher no long term turn around will happen. Business just won't invest in expansion until they know what the long term cost of Obama-care and the taxes will be along with regulation. They will sit on profits and invest in Treasuries and the like. But this is what we have been saying for a long time. Obama Economics doesn't work. |
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| kbp | Aug 10 2010, 12:45 PM Post #15 |
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I'd say that making those who oversee the ethics somehow separate from the Congress, but I’m not sure how that could be accomplished, and it would probably fall victim to insiders anyway. Sometimes I think about the more radical approach by wishing some militia movement would pop off a few and make it known why they did it, putting scare in other Congressmen for what they do ….but then we’d see a drastic increase in laws and policing actions and the outcome could be worse (like what followed the Oklahoma City Bombing). ADD: I also often think about just moving to the mountains or far out into the wilderness, but that doesn't help my family or anyone except those who move there. Edited by kbp, Aug 10 2010, 12:47 PM.
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