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Obama's administration would Control Bill Clinton; Hillary negotiates to Drop out Friday
Topic Started: Jun 4 2008, 06:59 PM (291 Views)
Deleted User	Jun 4 2008, 06:59 PM Post #1
Deleted User	. Also, it's in the news pipe that Hillary has negotiated to Drop out Friday. June 04, 2008 Rendell's reality check Blunt as always, Pennsylvania's Governor tells NY1 News: There's no bargaining. You don't bargain with the Presidential nominee. Even if you're Hillary Clinton and you have 18 million votes, you don't bargain. Rendell was also refreshingly direct on the difficulty Bill Clinton would pose. "The Obama campaign would have to make strict rules, you know, about what President Clinton could and could not do during the campaign... For example, the Obama campaign would have to control his schedule; where he would go into, what states," Rendell told Dominic Carter. "You know, normally politicians don't want to be outshone. Well you know you've got Bill Clinton lurking in the background. But Hillary Clinton, a very charismatic figure for many Americans -- generally a lot of politicians don't like to put somebody like that on the ticket," said Rendell. "You know rule one for the vice president is make sure you never upstage the president, right? It's rule one. You know, Hillary Clinton in some ways couldn't help but upstage, even if she was trying not to" http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/0608/Rendells_reality_check.html .
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wingedwheel	Jun 4 2008, 07:33 PM Post #2
Not Pictured Above Posts: 2,378 Group: Tier1 Member #307 Joined: May 2, 2008	Quote: "The Obama campaign would have to make strict rules, you know, about what President Clinton could and could not do during the campaign... For example, the Obama campaign would have to control his schedule; where he would go into, what states," Rendell told Dominic Carter. They might have to make rules beyond the campaign as well since Bill has made a lot of money speaking to groups both in the US and out of it.



Tidbits	Jun 4 2008, 10:22 PM Post #3
Posts: 5,242 Group: Tier1 Member #141 Joined: Apr 28, 2008	Perhaps she wants to be generous and supportive and offer to be VP, knowing that he will not invite her to do it. Then help the Obama campaign, but it loses and "if only he had asked Hillary to be VP, if only Hillary had been the candidate for President, if only..." And she runs next time saying she did everything asked of her and more.



Deleted User	Jun 4 2008, 10:47 PM Post #4
Deleted User	. Hillary is really loathe to give in or give up her leverage. She was really pressured in a conference call with Party and Senate leaders and she relented. Her staff is saying they were totally caught off guard by the news of her agreeing to give a speech announcing her support for Obama, and now the story may have changed once again as leaks from Hillary's camp are saying she may announce her support for Obama but retain her delegates.
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Jezebelle	Jun 5 2008, 04:14 AM Post #5
Posts: 2,554 Group: Members Member #137 Joined: Apr 28, 2008	Short of an anvil falling on her, Hillary will never fully quit. She's angling for some power, some seat at the table, or else she's going to do all she can, with a smile on her face of course, to ensure Obama loses. Perhaps her tack is to piss off her voters at Obama even more so they'll vote for McCain so she'll have a shot again in four years.



Bill Anderson	Jun 5 2008, 05:40 AM Post #6
Posts: 2,598 Group: Tier1 Member #135 Joined: Apr 28, 2008	Jezebelle Jun 5 2008, 04:14 AM Short of an anvil falling on her, Hillary will never fully quit. She's angling for some power, some seat at the table, or else she's going to do all she can, with a smile on her face of course, to ensure Obama loses. Perhaps her tack is to piss off her voters at Obama even more so they'll vote for McCain so she'll have a shot again in four years. I agree. There is no way that Hillary and Bill are going to play second fiddle to anyone. It is not in their nature, and Bill Clinton these days has been quite volatile. The best analogy I can use of the Clintons is that of the Snopes family in William Faulkner's book, The Hamlet. Once they move in, they stay there and take over. Bill Clinton is not someone who will stay in the background or be subservient to anyone. If Obama puts the Clintons on the ticket, he will be sorry many times over. Yes, no doubt the ticket would win, but it would be an example of "be careful for what you wish, for you just might get it."



Truth Detector	Jun 5 2008, 07:14 AM Post #7
Posts: 1,885 Group: Tier1 Member #183 Joined: Apr 28, 2008	Jezebelle Jun 5 2008, 04:14 AM Short of an anvil falling on her, Hillary will never fully quit. She's angling for some power, some seat at the table, or else she's going to do all she can, with a smile on her face of course, to ensure Obama loses. Perhaps her tack is to piss off her voters at Obama even more so they'll vote for McCain so she'll have a shot again in four years. You are so right, Jez. It is not in Hillary's best interest for Obama to win. She will be 64 the next election cycle. If Obama were to win and get two terms, Hillary's political aspirations are over. Her best shot now is to see to it that Obama is defeated and in doing so, she does all of us a big favor. So to Hillary I say, keep on keeping on!



~J~ is in Wonderland	Jun 5 2008, 07:35 AM Post #8
~J~ is in Wonderland Posts: 3,663 Group: Tier1 Member #12 Joined: Apr 28, 2008	Truth Detector, I have been trying to respond to a pm you sent me a couple of weeks ago. Every time I reply I get a message that says-This user is not accepting PMs at this time. Your pm is turned on so I don't know what the problem is. Edited by ~J~ is in Wonderland, Jun 5 2008, 07:36 AM.



Truth Detector	Jun 5 2008, 07:51 AM Post #9
Posts: 1,885 Group: Tier1 Member #183 Joined: Apr 28, 2008	~J~ is in Wonderland Jun 5 2008, 07:35 AM Truth Detector, I have been trying to respond to a pm you sent me a couple of weeks ago. Every time I reply I get a message that says-This user is not accepting PMs at this time. Your pm is turned on so I don't know what the problem is. Thanks J I have no idea the cause, however if our friend Tony shows up and reads this entry, please Tony help me reprogram my profile. I have received PMs since the new system has been in place. I don't understand why J cannot get through. HELP



Kerri P.	Jun 5 2008, 08:09 AM Post #10
Posts: 4,936 Group: Tier1 Member #131 Joined: Apr 28, 2008	There are other posters that are having problems with their inbox's as well. Edited by Kerri P., Jun 5 2008, 12:25 PM.



~J~ is in Wonderland	Jun 5 2008, 10:59 AM Post #11
~J~ is in Wonderland Posts: 3,663 Group: Tier1 Member #12 Joined: Apr 28, 2008	Now it shows that your pm is off again TD. Clowns is showing off also.



Deleted User	Jun 5 2008, 01:20 PM Post #12
Deleted User	. That does not indicate whether your PM is On or Off - that indicates whether you are on-line (signed in or not). TD has to go into his Preferences at the top. I suspect that PMs are turned off for TD.
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~J~ is in Wonderland	Jun 5 2008, 01:36 PM Post #13
~J~ is in Wonderland Posts: 3,663 Group: Tier1 Member #12 Joined: Apr 28, 2008	Tony Soprano Jun 5 2008, 01:20 PM . That does not indicate whether your PM is On or Off - that indicates whether you are on-line (signed in or not). TD has to go into his Preferences at the top. I suspect that PMs are turned off for TD. Tony, I have tried to reply to TD pm its says-This user is not accepting PMs at this time. Just about 30 min. ago I clicked on his pm which showed off. It opened up and let me post a pm to him and when I hit send the same message came up- This user is not accepting PMs at this time. Is your pm turned off Tony? The board is showing it as off right now. Edited by ~J~ is in Wonderland, Jun 5 2008, 01:37 PM.



Jezebelle	Jun 5 2008, 02:07 PM Post #14
Posts: 2,554 Group: Members Member #137 Joined: Apr 28, 2008	Bill Anderson Jun 5 2008, 05:40 AM Jezebelle Jun 5 2008, 04:14 AM Short of an anvil falling on her, Hillary will never fully quit. She's angling for some power, some seat at the table, or else she's going to do all she can, with a smile on her face of course, to ensure Obama loses. Perhaps her tack is to piss off her voters at Obama even more so they'll vote for McCain so she'll have a shot again in four years. I agree. There is no way that Hillary and Bill are going to play second fiddle to anyone. It is not in their nature, and Bill Clinton these days has been quite volatile. The best analogy I can use of the Clintons is that of the Snopes family in William Faulkner's book, The Hamlet. Once they move in, they stay there and take over. Bill Clinton is not someone who will stay in the background or be subservient to anyone. If Obama puts the Clintons on the ticket, he will be sorry many times over. Yes, no doubt the ticket would win, but it would be an example of "be careful for what you wish, for you just might get it." Bill. lol!!! I hadn't thought of that book in years! You're exactly right! LOL! Good call! Clintons=Snopeses. My hat is off to you!



~J~ is in Wonderland	Jun 5 2008, 02:13 PM Post #15
~J~ is in Wonderland Posts: 3,663 Group: Tier1 Member #12 Joined: Apr 28, 2008	Ok, I got it now. LOL I never sign out so it took a while to figure out what you said Tony. I signed out and see that my pm is off. TD check your Preferences as Tony suggested.



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