| New "Hug-a-Thug" program proposed by State Senator; The Eve Carson/Abhijit Mahato Bill | |
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| Topic Started: May 30 2008, 12:48 PM (1,024 Views) | |
| Truth Detector | May 30 2008, 12:48 PM Post #1 |
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NC State Senator, Tony Rand has sponsored a bill entitled The Eve Carson/Abhijit Mahato Community Service Program, Bill No. 2079 which would mandate that college and university students in NC volunteer 20 hours per semester to students in public schools in an effort to prevent drop out and anti-social behavior. Essentially instead of honoring these two students with tougher legislation for criminal activity, they are creating a burden for good kids to go out and give 40 hours a year of social work. This is an insult to the families of these students and frankly their names should not be allowed on a bill like this without the full support and permission of their families. Edited by Truth Detector, May 30 2008, 12:50 PM.
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| tryton77 st295x98 | May 30 2008, 12:58 PM Post #2 |
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I'd rather them add a few new laws adding extra big game tags too everyones sportsmens hunting licenses, with year round hunting privileges. Hunting Thugs should be Legal 
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| Deleted User | May 30 2008, 01:06 PM Post #3 |
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. More of the same thinking that got us here. Crystal was a college student, do you want her teaching your kids in school? I wonder if North Carolina can survive. It seems like it's overrun with people that believe in throwing a drowning person a cinder block. |
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| abb | May 30 2008, 01:19 PM Post #4 |
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http://www.salisburypost.com/Opinion/053001-edit-mentor-bill Opinion Editorial: Don't make them mentor Friday, May 30, 2008 8:46 AM It would be a great thing if every single college student in Salisbury volunteered to mentor a public school student. But forcing college students to do so as a requirement for graduation isn't the best way to help fill the need for more youth mentors or nurture the spirit of public service. State Sen. Tony Rand, D-Cumberland, has proposed making the mentoring service a requirement for all public and private college students in the state. The bill would require any student seeking a bachelor's degree to spend 20 hours per semester mentoring and tutoring a public school-age child. First off, let's acknowledge we have a large need for mentors in this community, and college students are excellent candidates to help children who can benefit from the guidance and attention of young adult role models. In fact, Mayor Susan Kluttz and other city leaders made precisely that plea a few months ago in urging local college students to get involved as mentors as part of Salisbury's ongoing anti-gang initiative. Those that coordinate mentoring services, such as the Times 2 Mentoring Program run by the Rowan Youth Services Bureau, also would love to have more college students sign up. Rand is right when he says that college students may be particularly qualified to serve as mentors, and his heart is certainly in the right place in wanting to establish the proposed community service program in memory of Eve Carson and Abhijit Mahata, two college students who were shot to death in separate incidents earlier this year. The violent deaths of Carson, the student body president at UNC-Chapel Hill, and Mahta, a Duke University graduate student, underscored the problem of youth violence and the societal factors that help stack the odds against marginalized adolescents. But the fact that there's a need for mentors and that college students could help fill that need doesn't mean a coercive requirement is the best way to proceed. It assumes that every student is equally suited for mentoring, which isn't the case, and it also assumes that every student is equally able to make the time commitment necessary, regardless of whether that student may be holding down a full- or even part-time job, while also juggling other responsibilities. Some colleges already have public service requirements, but those that do usually offer students a range of options to fulfill them. By all means, let's encourage college students to get involved in community service projects, whether it's mentoring young people, assisting senior citizens or some other worthwhile endeavor. Young people who are fortunate enough to benefit from a college education should be mindful of helping others who may not be as fortunate. But rather than institutionalizing such a requirement statewide, let's leave it up to individual colleges and their students to determine what works best for them. Meanwhile, if any local college students are interested in serving as youth mentors, groups such as Times 2 or Communities in the Schools are eager to hear from you. |
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| Baldo | May 30 2008, 01:30 PM Post #5 |
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"Charity is no part of the legislative duty of the government." -- James Madison Since when can government require you to work for free? They can give you community service as a punishment option, but I think this is an unconstitutional measure. |
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| old lady | May 30 2008, 01:30 PM Post #6 |
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What better way to enforce the Nanny State and government powers than to make voluntary service mandatory. |
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| Kerri P. | May 30 2008, 01:32 PM Post #7 |
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Welcome to the Country of North Carolina, please have your passport ready for our inspection. 
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| Truth Detector | May 30 2008, 02:29 PM Post #8 |
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Love your smiley! All of the Boards of Education in NC would love having these volunteers and at the same time raising property taxes to support a failing system. Tony Rand is the same guy that cosponsored a bill last year which he admitted to never having read that would give among other privileges, in state tuition to illegal aliens. It's almost impossible to believe how utterly stupid you have to be to cosponsor a bill you haven't read. If you are interested in listening to this dufus, there is an audio of an interview with him on this issue at WBT radio in Charlotte under the show listing of Keith Larson. When you hear this man speak, you will understand why NC has so many problems. |
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| Deleted User | May 30 2008, 02:56 PM Post #9 |
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. This in response to Eve Carson and Abhijit Mahato? What a load of crap. Look for more litigation when one of these college kids brings in a joint or meets the kids after school and takes them to some rowdy party. Just like Diane Catotti and the Durham City Council - these people are not equipped to deal in reality. They are one-note nanny's and if they are left to deal with crime, get ready for a lot of crime! |
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| ThinkFirstTypeLater | May 30 2008, 04:20 PM Post #10 |
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While it would be great if more bright, young, charitable college kids would be as giving and worldly as Eve Carson was, mandating it across the board is a recipe for disaster and would do more harm than good. A bad mentor is worse than no mentor. If you make it required, you introduce a bunch of folks who treat it as an annoying obligation, and the quality of service goes down the toilet. |
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| Deleted User | May 30 2008, 05:42 PM Post #11 |
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I thought we abolished slavery with the XIII amendment of the Constitution in 1865? Since when did mandatory, become voluntary. Section 1: Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except for a punishment for crime whereof the party shall hve been duly convicted, shall exist within the United States, or any place subject to their jurisdiction. Since when did North Carolina secede from the Union. They tried and lost the Civil War. |
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| Deleted User | May 30 2008, 07:23 PM Post #12 |
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Where do all the NC residents stand on this proposal? |
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| Baldo | May 30 2008, 07:32 PM Post #13 |
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Well said  It's Nanny Government. Universities should encourage particpation but not require it. The students are paying a fortune and are the clients, not the servants. Edited by Baldo, May 30 2008, 07:34 PM.
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| Jezebelle | May 30 2008, 07:47 PM Post #14 |
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....with a bonus for first horsewhipping them into gelatinous masses of quivering nerve endings. I knew just from the subject line that I would regret clicking on this topic because it was likely to bring an aggravating end to what was otherwise a pretty good week for me. The audacity of these people is beyond infuriating. This is downright SICK and TWISTED. |
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| Jezebelle | May 30 2008, 07:58 PM Post #15 |
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I don't think it's even their role to encourage public servitude from students. Their JOB is to provide the best education possible for the students who are paying dearly for it to get to the opportunities they expect their education to bring them. Now, if state legislatures and congress want to eliminate confiscatory taxation that they then convert to social benefits programs, after skimming off a huge portion to run their bureaucracies, for people who largely won't (not can't) support themselves and the children they bring into the world that they have no intention of supporting, then maybe pushing for more volunteer work might be appropriate in certain situations, but I still don't think it should be impressed upon college students who have enough to do as it is in developing their futures. And, frankly, some of them are just too immature to be charged with youth mentoring responsibilities. I think a better class of people for them to target would be government workers. 
Edited by Jezebelle, May 30 2008, 07:59 PM.
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