| What Obama may really be planning with healthcare bill | |
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| LTC8K6 | Mar 4 2010, 08:49 PM Post #1 |
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Obama could just sign the bill outright...if the house passes the Senate bill, Obama can sign it, No need for reconciliation. There is nothing to stop Obama from signing it. http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2010/03/025741.php
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| LTC8K6 | Mar 4 2010, 08:51 PM Post #2 |
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http://hotair.com/archives/2010/03/04/obama-comforts-house-liberals-dont-worry-this-bill-is-just-the-beginning-of-what-well-do-with-health-care/ Obama intends to do much more... |
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| longstop | Mar 4 2010, 10:43 PM Post #3 |
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Rahm is on his way out, Jarret and Axlerod holding Obamas hand ! Rahm Emanuel Is Dead. He Just Hasn’t Been Told Yet. http://www.redstate.com/erick/2010/03/04/rahm-emanuel-is-dead-he-just-hasnt-been-told-yet/ snip But the stories are right. The wheels are falling off the bus. Without a good knowledge of Washington, the Chicago Way fails in the inertia. Let’s start the Official Rahm Emanuel Dead Pool. We know Valerie Jarrett already killed him. But his body has yet to emerge from the White House. It’s only a matter of time. And it’ll happen before summer end Comments. |
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| Baldo | Mar 4 2010, 11:38 PM Post #4 |
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Obama can't sign any bill until both the Senate & Democratic Bills are exactly the same. Only then can he sign it into law. Normally this is done in a House Senate Conference where the differences are worked out & the House & Senate then votes to approve the new version. They can't do that or they would have done it before Scott Brown won. There was no compromise possible between Democrats. They never had the Democratic votes. So either 1) The House has to vote and approved the exact Senate Bill 2) The Senate has to vote and approve the exact House Bill. The House Bill barely passed with just a few votes. It is doubtful the Senate Bill could pass in the House now. The Senate can now be filibustered assuming all the Republicans stay together. So it is the Senate where a process call reconciliation will be attempted. It is designed for budgetary items so that a simple majority can pass a budget bill. It is not in the Senate rules to pass any bill that contains policy decisions. The Heath-care Bill is filled with Policy Decisions. All of those have to be stripped out of the bill. IMHO Obama, Reid, and Pelosi are risking our system on a Bill the voters have clearly decided against. There only solution is to change the Senate rules. What needs to be confronted is that if the Democrats just vote on a majority in the Senate they will break tradition, Senate Rules, and open the door to chaos. What happens when the Democrats become the minority party with a different President? The Filibuster was inserted to prevent a simple majority rule and reach a consenous to govern from the center. Obama appears to have chosen chaos. We might be heading to a Constitutional crisis. Edited by Baldo, Mar 4 2010, 11:39 PM.
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| LTC8K6 | Mar 5 2010, 12:04 AM Post #5 |
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The purpose of the reconciliation talk, and the promises to fix the Senate bill, is to get the House to vote for the Senate bill. If this ruse works, then Obama can simply sign the result into law, as both houses will have passed the same bill. The goal is to get the House to pass the Senate bill as is, with the promise that it will be fixed afterwards via a reconciliation bill. At that point, Obama can sign and it's a done deal and there will be no reconciliation. |
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| LTC8K6 | Mar 5 2010, 12:10 AM Post #6 |
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Beware the ides of March... http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/03/04/gibbs-house-will-pass-sen_n_486031.html
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| Baldo | Mar 5 2010, 12:12 AM Post #7 |
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IMHO It won't worked. You have to be a complete idiot as a House Democrat to vote for it unless you are in a completely safe district. Taking a punctured life vest from Obama isn't reassuring. But then again, a complete idiot? |
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| longstop | Mar 5 2010, 12:26 AM Post #8 |
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Democrat Lemmings soon to be extinct similar to the Dodo. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dodo http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lemming It would seem that Valerie Jarret and Axlerod are the driving force in the WH and behind Obama; they sure know the Chicago Communist way! Edited by longstop, Mar 5 2010, 12:27 AM.
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| LTC8K6 | Mar 5 2010, 01:03 AM Post #9 |
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DANGER WILL ROBINSON! http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_health_care_overhaul
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| Baldo | Mar 5 2010, 02:27 AM Post #10 |
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He cares more about himself than our country. Everyone I know wants Health-care reform, but a minority of voters want this bill. What is so hard for him to understand? |
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| LTC8K6 | Mar 5 2010, 02:17 PM Post #11 |
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http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2010/03/025745.php
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| Mason | Mar 5 2010, 04:21 PM Post #12 |
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. MSNBC spent at least 30 minutes "investigating" Stupack, asking all kinds of questions and implying criminality and deceit. I think Stupack is getting the message - go along or you're in for a world of hurt. Notice how these tactics are suddenly acceptable. . |
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