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Why didn't Nifong make it a hate crime?
Topic Started: Feb 28 2010, 09:12 AM (394 Views)
Quasimodo

Why didn't Nifong say this was a hate crime?

He did SAY it was. He just didn't say so in exactly those words, because doing that would have gotten the FBI involved; and the last thing he wanted was a federal investigation.

But maybe the feds didn't want to come in anyway?

Didn't they have enough probable cause?


The District Attorney is saying this about a crime :



"In this case, where you have the act of rape - - essentially a gang rape - - is bad enough in and of itself, but when it's made with racial with racial epithets against the victim, I mean, it's just absolutely unconscionable," said District Attorney Mike Nifong.

"The contempt that was shown for the victim, based on her race was totally abhorrent," Nifong said. "It adds another layer of reprehensibleness, to a crime that already reprehensible." (WTVD 3/27/06)

"The circumstances of the rape indicated a deep racial motivation for some of the things that were done," District Attorney Mike Nifong said. "It makes a crime that is by its nature one of the most offensive and invasive even more so." (NBC17 3/29/06)

There's been a feeling in the past that Duke students are treated differently by the court system,” Durham County District Attorney Michael Nifong says.
“There was a feeling that Duke students' daddies could buy them expensive lawyers and that they knew the right people.“It's discouraging when people feel that way, and we try not to make that the case.” (USA Today 3/30/07)

"The reason that I took this case is because this case says something about Durham that I’m not going to let be said," said Nifong. "I'm not going to allow Durham's view in the minds of the world to be a bunch of lacrosse players at Duke raping a black girl from Durham." (WRAL 4/13/06)

Ergo, a violent crime was committed, WITH RACIAL MOTIVATIONS.

So why didn't Nifong go all the way and add hate crimes to the charges? (Because it would have gotten the feds involved?)



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Quasimodo

OTOH, since it was so well-publicized and obviously portrayed to the public as having racial motivations, why didn't the feds investigate this as a hate crime anyway?

Wouldn't they have done so in other circumstances?

(Did they have to fear they would offend anyone by doing so?--hardly likely, since many in the Durham community were already calling for the FBI to investigate.)

Why the federal reluctance?

Notice how often the federal government gets involved whenever there is even a remote chance of a hate crime having been committed.

So why not in this case?

Is it possible they knew this was a false prosecution, and also didn't want to get involved?

If so, would that make them accomplices to a frame?
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Quasimodo

In fact, why didn't the NAACP call for this to be declared hate crime?

Isn't it normally prompt to call for the addition of such charges in other circumstances?

Why didn't Joyner or McSurely?

(Is this a case of the dog that didn't bark?)
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Quasimodo
Feb 28 2010, 09:22 AM
In fact, why didn't the NAACP call for this to be declared hate crime?

Isn't it normally prompt to call for the addition of such charges in other circumstances?

Why didn't Joyner or McSurely?

(Is this a case of the dog that didn't bark?)
:SarC:

I have the easy answer to your question - there was nota crime and Nifong knew it.

Now here is another question - which has an even easier answer: Why was Crystal not charged with a hate crime?
And the answer is - there is no such thing as a hate crime perpetrated by a black against a white. If you don't believe me - remember the Christain-Newsom murders in Tennessee.

Remember - only white are capable of hate crimes!
Edited by cks, Feb 28 2010, 09:54 AM.
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Quasimodo

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I have the easy answer to your question - there was nota crime and Nifong knew it.


Did Barber and Joyner and McSurely know it?

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Quasimodo

And who warned off Jesse Jackson and Sharpton?

Barber? The feds?

Someone appears to have known at the very start that this case was a fraud.
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Quasimodo
Feb 28 2010, 10:00 AM
And who warned off Jesse Jackson and Sharpton?

Barber? The feds?

Someone appears to have known at the very start that this case was a fraud.
Who had government connections because he was serving in the government? TA DAAAAAAAA chairman of he BOT at Duke University and our loyal screwer of LAX students, a person who was born with a silver spoon in his mouth living next to the slums of the city....

lets hear it for our boy ROBERT STEEL Posted Image
Edited by chatham, Feb 28 2010, 10:56 AM.
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steel knew at 1st light that this mangum claim was a hoax and then a frame
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Had Nifong brought in the FBI and the feds, then he would have lost control of the case. Now, I am NOT of the belief that the feds would have seen through the lies and failed to bring a prosecution. As one who has written for years on the activities of federal prosecutors and investigators, I would be shocked had the feds not tried to trump up a hate crime of their own, given what I have seen from this august body of liars.

Nonetheless, letting anyone else take part in this case would have been dangerous for Nifong on many fronts. Don't forget that he knew there was no rape, but pushed the case anyway. He would have had to make sure that the FBI and the U.S. attorney's office was in on the lie, and that would have complicated things.

Furthermore, he knew that if he could just get the case before a Durham jury, that he would have been able to get a conviction. Durham wanted a conviction, period, and any juror that would have voted for acquittal, especially the black jurors, would have faced real dangers, not to mention being ostracized.

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Quasimodo
Feb 28 2010, 09:14 AM
OTOH, since it was so well-publicized and obviously portrayed to the public as having racial motivations, why didn't the feds investigate this as a hate crime anyway?

Wouldn't they have done so in other circumstances?

(Did they have to fear they would offend anyone by doing so?--hardly likely, since many in the Durham community were already calling for the FBI to investigate.)

Why the federal reluctance?
If so, would that make them accomplices to a frame?
Even the feds can smell a fish case. And the hoax was a fish case from the minute the SBI reported no matches.

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MikeZPU

Answer: for the same reason Nifong let three violent gang-rapists roam the streets of Durham
for almost two weeks after Mangum "ID'd them", waiting for the next grand jury to convene
rather than going to the normal arrest route (which would have lead to a probable cause hearing.)
Edited by MikeZPU, Feb 28 2010, 10:35 PM.
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