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| kbp | Feb 25 2010, 09:32 PM Post #31 |
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I stand corrected on the “Unemployment insurance”, it is the Federal Unemployment Tax Act. FEDERAL OLD-AGE AND SURVIVORS INSURANCE TRUST FUND AND FEDERAL DISABILITY INSURANCE TRUST FUND Health Insurance for Aged and Disabled (or Medicare) State Children's Health Insurance Program Social Security Disability Insurance (The links are not to the actual "acts", that would be a long search to find al acts!) Many are under or tied to what they call the SS Act, though that was not the name of it to begin with (the 0ld-age insurance act). I’m under the impression no acts have ever been challenged, for whatever the reason may be. All seem to be administered by the IRS, so one could call the insurance a tax if they choose to. I’m not sure if it was tied to the right to tax or what when they were passed. They’re titled as “insurance”, FWIW. |
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| LTC8K6 | Feb 25 2010, 10:29 PM Post #32 |
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Lots of good stuff at Powerline on the healthcare debate. All good for Repubs... http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2010/02/025688.php http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2010/02/025687.php http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2010/02/025686.php http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2010/02/025685.php http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2010/02/025684.php |
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| kbp | Feb 25 2010, 11:35 PM Post #33 |
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Thanks LTC. That one on Paul Ryan was great to read. That man had all the details down to the penny, well I guess it was more like the billions we're screwed out of. |
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| LTC8K6 | Feb 26 2010, 12:36 AM Post #34 |
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You'd think they were pennies, the way Zer0 tosses them around... |
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| Baldo | Feb 26 2010, 12:46 AM Post #35 |
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I was travelling today but got to listen to part of the exchange. 1) false teeth. That's dental insurance and the Democratic Healthcare bill does not cover dental. Apparently the Congresswoman doesn't know that. 2) Senator Harkin's logic that it is discrimination against the poor because they don't have Health Insurance was insane. BTW The same logic means the rich are discriminated against because they pay more taxes and the poor little or none. 3) Obama is over his head which is the real problem we face. |
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| LTC8K6 | Feb 26 2010, 12:53 AM Post #36 |
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http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D9E3GBTO0&show_article=1
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| LTC8K6 | Feb 26 2010, 12:54 AM Post #37 |
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It was so interesting being a part of it, that Zer0 looked bored out of his mind and dozed off at one point... |
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| Baldo | Feb 26 2010, 01:06 AM Post #38 |
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I guess we will all think what we want to think, but IMHO Obama doesn't know how to conduct an effective meeting. Maybe more precisely he didn't really want an exchange of ideas. Obama lives off his image. That is how he won his offices. It probably has been his most sucessful action growing up. Unfortunately as the President you have to accomplish things. 2 Years & 11 months more of him. |
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| cks | Feb 26 2010, 06:27 AM Post #39 |
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I only heard the last little bit - when Obama was "wrapping things up". I find his claim disingenuous that there are all these people who are living totally off their dividends and that they should be made to pay for health care in a significant way. There are a large number of Americans with investments who either worked their whole lives (and thus paid taxes) to put money aside in the form of investments to pay for their retirement (that is what my in-laws did) so that they would not become wards of the state. There are others who saved and now use the money to send their kids to college (thus providing employment for large numbers of people) but are still working hoping that they might still be able to salt some money away for a possible retirement (which becomes increasingly unlikely) since it is unlikely that there will be much if anything in the way of social security (there will not be enough workers to fund the payments for all the baby boomers) and pensions, as we once knew them, are precarious at best (since they are dependent to a large extent on the vagaries of the stock market). Obama and his political cohorts know that they do not have to worry where there next check (and it will always be an extensive one) will be coming from just as they do not have to worry about health care since we, the taxpayers will be footing the bill. That whole summit was political farce - another colossal waste of the taxpayers money. |
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| Deleted User | Feb 26 2010, 07:38 AM Post #40 |
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Obama appeared childish - not presidential. His arrogance could not be kept under wraps even for a few hours. I only wish John McCain had put him in his place with the comment about not being in campaign mode. That's the only mode Obama knows. |
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| Mason | Feb 26 2010, 08:36 AM Post #41 |
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The (speaking) time differential is very telling. The Democratic tactic of telling sad stories is old and very questionable. I don't know how Obama is viewed any other way than arrogant and self-serving. . . |
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| Joan Foster | Feb 26 2010, 08:59 AM Post #42 |
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People often get done in by the little details that they never think through. There was a certain symbolism yesterday, like at the end of the first Godfather movie...the moment when the young wife realizes what her husband REALLY is. Seeing Obama sitting there with his two capos, Reid and Pelosi...was somewhat stunning in that way. It made you see the three of them as really ONE. An understanding that their methodology, mindset and moral code are pretty much the same. No more believing Obama is this inspirational young man about "change" and not entrenched in ...."the family "business." |
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| abb | Feb 26 2010, 09:18 AM Post #43 |
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As a student and proud practitioner of the Great Southern Culture, I should tell you of the three types of mistakes encountered in life. 1.) Dayum!: minor problems, like a backlash in your casting reel, spilling your coffee, etc. 2.) AwSh*t!: Significant issues, like remembering an expired driver's license as you pull up to a state police checkpoint, being told your AC compressor unit must be replaced, etc. 3.) OhMahGod!: Realizing the concrete foundation just poured is exactly one foot off from what it's supposed to be to match the equipment to be put on it, getting a letter from the IRS asking you to show up at the regional office with your paperwork, etc. The look yesterday on their faces was the third. |
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| genny6348 | Feb 26 2010, 12:00 PM Post #44 |
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That was the first think I thought of. The stated purpose was to bring both sides together and get input (?) - all stakeholders being heard. Community Organizers, as he claims to be one, are trained extensively in holding meetings. This is much of what they do . . . Ad nauseam. He failed this training too, apparently. I've seen middle school students hold better stakeholder meetings. |
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| Baldo | Feb 26 2010, 12:09 PM Post #45 |
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So funny abb! Expect it to get even worse as this Congress raises taxes, shoves its agenda down our throats, and marches in lockstep off the cliff. I guess every 30 years the country, or in reality a new generation, takes a piece of the promised liberal pie and eventually realizes that beautiful image is filled with rotten apples. They still won't face the tsunami of debt heading our way. And Yes Genny. It was a dog and pony show without the dog or pony but just a lot of show. Edited by Baldo, Feb 26 2010, 12:11 PM.
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