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Newsweek on Crystal Mangum; New Article by Susannah Meadows
Topic Started: Feb 23 2010, 09:41 PM (2,823 Views)
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Abbster, I appreciate seeing that. It will help, believe me.

No, I won't do a hit job. That is what the NY Slimes does to books that don't fit its ideological bent. However, there will be some interesting revelations in my review. One of them will be that Jones is a hardcore Democrat who believes in unions, blah, blah, blah. However, the newspapers owned by his family were rabidly anti-union and would fire anyone who even said the word. "Unions for thee, but not for me."

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Bill Anderson
Feb 24 2010, 08:42 AM
Abbster, I appreciate seeing that. It will help, believe me.

No, I won't do a hit job. That is what the NY Slimes does to books that don't fit its ideological bent. However, there will be some interesting revelations in my review. One of them will be that Jones is a hardcore Democrat who believes in unions, blah, blah, blah. However, the newspapers owned by his family were rabidly anti-union and would fire anyone who even said the word. "Unions for thee, but not for me."

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LOL! Fair enough - I'll do the hit job.
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Will your piece be posted on line, Bill? I'd like to hitch a ride over with ABB...to say a few things about this book myself.
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"Mangum lived on a small street less than four miles from the Duke campus, but it might as well have been in another city. I drove out to her neighborhood on a warm afternoon hoping she might talk to me. When I pulled up in front of her house, I found what was basically a shack. With most of its paint gone, the wood siding had turned gray. I might not have believed people were living inside if her parents had not come out to shoo me away. I'd lived in Durham for four years as an undergraduate at Duke, and I had never had any idea just how extreme the city's poverty could be. Duke students have little incentive to leave the lush grounds of their "Gothic Wonderland"—a term long used by students and alumni, but not always lovingly. But if they did, they'd be faced with a stark reality: In 2007, almost a fifth of Durham residents were living in poverty, and half of those were surviving on less than 50 percent of the cutoff"

Susannah, wouldn't you be a more productive journalist had you asked why a fifth of Durham's residents live in poverty all the while the city government has been predominantly in the hands of African American leaders. Wouldn't it interest you in the least where all the federal funding goes and why Durham needs a performing arts center that rivals Lincoln Center rather than state of the art public schools, jobs training, and above all the expectation for achievement among Durham's blacks. Do you believe that Crystal received a degree worth the paper it's written on from NCCU? Do you really believe that she is equipped to seek employment in the criminal justice system rather than an occasional visitor to the county lock-up? Whose fault is that, Susannah? Is Duke University suppose to be the Daddy Warbucks for the entire community? Perhaps a closer look at the Durham leadership would have given you more insight into how this frame was pursued. Crystal wanted to shakedown the three Duke students and the City saw this as an opportunity to shakedown Duke. Sadly, your alma mater fell for it.
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"I'd lived in Durham for four years as an undergraduate at Duke, and I had never had any idea just how extreme the city's poverty could be."

Dumbass! Never volunteered for anything there in Durham? Too busy with her 'girlfriends' and hard at work studying to be a top-notch journalist, I suppose.

"Duke students have little incentive to leave the lush grounds of their 'Gothic Wonderland'—a term long used by students and alumni, but not always lovingly."

Lush grounds? Half the year, the campus is a mudpit. There's dozens of buildings, where there used to be woodlands.

"But if they did, they'd be faced with a stark reality: In 2007, almost a fifth of Durham residents were living in poverty, and half of those were surviving on less than 50 percent of the cutoff"

Boo hoo, as TD points out, where is the investigative piece on why the citizens of Durham, run by Democrats and blacks, is in such dire straights?
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Feb 24 2010, 09:06 AM
"Mangum lived on a small street less than four miles from the Duke campus, but it might as well have been in another city. I drove out to her neighborhood on a warm afternoon hoping she might talk to me. When I pulled up in front of her house, I found what was basically a shack. With most of its paint gone, the wood siding had turned gray. I might not have believed people were living inside if her parents had not come out to shoo me away. I'd lived in Durham for four years as an undergraduate at Duke, and I had never had any idea just how extreme the city's poverty could be. Duke students have little incentive to leave the lush grounds of their "Gothic Wonderland"—a term long used by students and alumni, but not always lovingly. But if they did, they'd be faced with a stark reality: In 2007, almost a fifth of Durham residents were living in poverty, and half of those were surviving on less than 50 percent of the cutoff"

Susannah, wouldn't you be a more productive journalist had you asked why a fifth of Durham's residents live in poverty all the while the city government has been predominantly in the hands of African American leaders. Wouldn't it interest you in the least where all the federal funding goes and why Durham needs a performing arts center that rivals Lincoln Center rather than state of the art public schools, jobs training, and above all the expectation for achievement among Durham's blacks. Do you believe that Crystal received a degree worth the paper it's written on from NCCU? Do you really believe that she is equipped to seek employment in the criminal justice system rather than an occasional visitor to the county lock-up? Whose fault is that, Susannah? Is Duke University suppose to be the Daddy Warbucks for the entire community? Perhaps a closer look at the Durham leadership would have given you more insight into how this frame was pursued. Crystal wanted to shakedown the three Duke students and the City saw this as an opportunity to shakedown Duke. Sadly, your alma mater fell for it.
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Feb 24 2010, 09:06 AM
"Mangum lived on a small street less than four miles from the Duke campus, but it might as well have been in another city. I drove out to her neighborhood on a warm afternoon hoping she might talk to me. When I pulled up in front of her house, I found what was basically a shack. With most of its paint gone, the wood siding had turned gray. I might not have believed people were living inside if her parents had not come out to shoo me away. I'd lived in Durham for four years as an undergraduate at Duke, and I had never had any idea just how extreme the city's poverty could be. Duke students have little incentive to leave the lush grounds of their "Gothic Wonderland"—a term long used by students and alumni, but not always lovingly. But if they did, they'd be faced with a stark reality: In 2007, almost a fifth of Durham residents were living in poverty, and half of those were surviving on less than 50 percent of the cutoff"
I am so tired of this shit from the State-Run Media. This is the same paragraph that was written fifty years ago when I first became a news junkie and got my own subscription to USN&WR. They've not changed a syllable or or comma or period.
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It's very telling that Barry, Samiha, Melanie, Ruth, Susahana Meadows - and their partners never wrote about Mark Gottlieb, Ben Himan, Linwood Wilson, or David Addison.

I don't think they could name one of them - they had zero interest because they weren't interested in seeing this as a conspiracy against the players, which it most certainly was. They weren't interested in fabricated evidence against the players or lies written in affidavits to allow the false prosecution of the players.

Do you think if a City and Justice system had done this to black players - the names of the detectives falsifying material would be known to the press and do you think they would be scrutinized?

It's very telling they had no interest in the fabrication and falsification that allowed the frame to occur and the false prosecution to persist.





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I have often wondered how far Ed Bradley would have taken his investigation of this case had he lived to see it come to its conclusion.
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MikeZPU

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MUST SEE VIDEO

She spent 4 weeks at Duke/Durham and this is what she got? I just can't believe that.

http://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?id=1535559n

Outrageous! It took me 5 minutes to get stories about Nifong's temper, arrogance, and need to win.

Crystal smiling when leaving post-gang rape is Not significant!
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Tony: thanks for sharing the video.

In that interview, it is absolutely clear that Meadows was getting (mis)information directly from Nifong.
That's the only way she would have such details about the status of the fingernail testing.

Plus, we already know from the memo that she was communicating with Nifong on a first-name basis.

There was no DNA found "UNDER" the fingernails. Her use of the word "UNDER", which she got from Nifong,
was absolutely meant to support Nifong's insinuations about her scraping a player's arm during a struggle.

And the SBI's DNA tests were not "inconclusive" -- they were negative.

Plus, fingernails? excuse me -- what about the fact that no LAX DNA was found on any item in the rape kit. Wasn't that more significant to point out in the interview?
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Wow! I had not seen this. Meadows obviously had no intention at all in doing an investigation. She was going to push this came hell or high water, and she was allied with Nifong and the rest of the gang.

Thanks for posting this outrage.

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What a liar. And don't think that Newsweek will escape my review.

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brittany

The cotton shirt comment was a joke. That is a terible article. No Pulitzer for her.

Durham is a town run by blacks. They are in charge. So they should fix their problem. Is it Duke's job or the students?

People where I live used to send their kids to Duke. Not anymore. No one where I live goes there. They know we are not wanted. Plenty of other good schools to send our kids to in areas that welcome us and our children. Lax is a big sport here with Duke connections. No one sends their kids to Durham anymore. I'm waiting to see who Danowski gets once the 5th year students graduate this year.
Edited by brittany, Feb 24 2010, 12:07 PM.
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brittany

What parent would knowingly put their child in harms way and pay $50,000 a year for it???
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MikeZPU

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Feb 24 2010, 12:06 PM
The cotton shirt comment was a joke. That is a terible article. No Pulitzer for her.

Durham is a town run by blacks. They are in charge. So they should fix their problem. Is it Duke's job or the students?

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What parent would knowingly put their child in harms way and pay $50,000 a year for it???

All excellent points!

What Chan Hall said is infinitely more offensive than the joke about the cotton shirt.

It's a very serious matter that someone would actually advocate knowingly prosecuting innocent people to supposedly atone for unspecified "past injustices."
Edited by MikeZPU, Feb 24 2010, 12:27 PM.
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